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Korean journalist who attended BLACKINK concert: No fan cheers during BLACKPINK concert...


http://www.seoul.co.kr/news/newsView.php?cp=seoul&id=20181112500139#csidx50deb429d29e87b9a23056522b917ba

Cr. Seoul News


A journalists wrote an article to express the feelings after attending BLACKPINK concert. The members performed well but the atmosphere was awkward and strange.

'I have been a journalists under TV/Kpop department for 5 months. I always need to follow the idols because this is my job. Therefore I have watched many concerts. Although I have a holiday, I need to use my spare time to watch different performances. After watching many concerts, I start comparing. Last week, I watched the first concert held by BLACKPINK.'


'During 10-11 November, BLACKPINK held the first ever concert at KSPO dome. Journalists were also allowed to attend on the first day. Before the show, it just liked other concerts held by other idols. It was full of people outside.'


'It started at 1810, the venue was almost full. The performances were two hours long and it was above my expactaions. BLACKPINK members were very hard-working. A live band made the performances even better.'


'During the concert, the VCRs of the members were played. However, there were just a few fans screaming for their favourite member. The applause during and after the performances were very formal. It just liked watching Open Concert instead of watching concerts held by idols.'


'BLACKPINK members were just like other idols who screamed BLINKs (their fandom name) during the whole concert. The members wanted to communicate with the fans. However, they did not consider one thing which was the audience did not even know what BLINKs actually were.'


'BLACKPINK held their first ever concert at KSPO dome. Kpop fans all knew that the dome is different other venues. A single concert could have 10k to 12k people. Therefore, this is considered as the having great fan base. This is the reason why the idols consider holding concerts at KSPO dome a dream. Seventeen, who held concerts at KSPO dome during 3-4 November said, "We can finally hold concerts at KSPO dome." BTOB, who held 3 concerts at August, also said," Performing at KSPO dome is a dream."'


'A group having basic fan base only is difficult to fill in the whole venue. IKON, who made the greatest hit of the year (LOVE SCENARIO), could not even fill in the whole venue in August. The difficulties for girl groups are even harder. Although FINKL, SES, SNSD, KARA, 2NE1 all held concerts at KSPO before. Only SES and SNSD can fill in the whole venue.'


'Thus, there were voices which worried about BLACKPINK holding concerts at KSPO dome. Fortunately, BLACKPINK concerts were different from others because they were sponsored by many companies. The companies gave out invitation tickets and invited many people to attend the concerts. In 2 days, the venue was full. There were also families bringing their children to watch the concert.'


'As this was a concert with many sponsorship, both the BLACKPINK members and the audience felt awkward. During the performances, members listed out all the sponsorship one by one. Jennie directly said," The biggest credit card company in Asia" It made the audience laughed so hard. Jisoo also said," After having this many sponsorship, there were enough people to watch our concert." She then continued," Isn't my hair shinning? Let's use xxx (Shampoo company name)"'


'During the concert, artists promoted the company because of the sponsorship. We could not say it had any problems. However, using this method to fill in all 20k seats or be the first 3rd generation girl group to hold a concert at KSPO dome. It is not suitable.'

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GoodMusic 30 days ago 6
30 days ago

So all those people screaming and holding the BP lightsticks were just......cardboards?

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forgivemenot1 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

I think the article was making the point that a lot of the people attending weren't Blinks or even fans of BP but that doesn't mean that they didn't enjoy the performance or possibly became fans afterwards because of their attending.


More interesting to me was the fact of the products being mentioned in such a weird way on stage, it would have been better to just flash them up on screens between performances like add breaks rather than have the BP members make awkward remarks about them in the middle of a music concert.

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lousina 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

provided by the sponsored companies lmao yeah, i never knew sk were this advanced :')))

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Stopudelulu 30 days ago 1
30 days ago

Who knows the rules of sponsorship is to shout and pretending you are enjoying the concert?? The reason why they don't even know the word blink bc they are not one. Lmao

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lousina 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

entire stadium sang Forever Young and Stay by themselves in the dark. if thats not a proof then idk what is

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jhwn557 29 days ago 2
29 days ago

What would this person gain by lying...? It’s his observations, we weren’t there. What I can say is their fandom doesn’t seem as big and huge and united as YG tries to make it seem. Even if there are sponsorships, idols don’t outwardly express it. It must’ve been that awkward for a kpop girl group in their third year being awkward

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TimeForChocolate 29 days ago 1
29 days ago

bruh there were pics and fancams.

its not hard at all to believe that there will be people who believe his lies if those people had preconcieved negative bias

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jhwn557 15 days ago 0
15 days ago

They’re a girl group in their second year promoting and have barely promoted. They have the minimum amount of title songs. Their korean fancam isn’t huge enough to hold a concert of that size. It’s not easy to hold a concert that big, that fast. It’s hard to build up a loyal fandom that quickly. They also said it in the beginning. Many people wouldn’t have been able to come without their sponsors providing tickets. The reporter basically said the concert felt like an open concert. Weird. Just so you know, idol groups that have a big fandom purchase the tickets. Most are purchased and not given away by sponsors

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jokbal_is_yum 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

Hmmmm............

Well, we'll take this reviewer's review with several grains of salt.

While it did appear to be well-attended (YG obvs didn't want there to be any glaringly empty seats), if the reviewer wasn't feeling just his own discomfort ("... the atmosphere was awkward and strange"), then that's something to watch for as this group continues.


Even though it's almost a given that YG wants BP to be the "next 2NE1", the way he's going about promoting them is.....

really really weird.

Oh well, the fans enjoyed themselves, so the girls should count it as a win and keep on going.


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lousina 30 days ago 3
30 days ago

entire stadium sang Forever Young and Stay by themselves in the dark. if thats not a proof then idk what is

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Kurapikaaa 29 days ago 1
29 days ago

The lyrics could have been on a screen for people to sing along. I don't know, I wasn't there, but it's a possibility. It's been done before. I'm sorry, I do like Black Pink but I can't rule out that possibility.

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spreadpeace 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

If you looked at rośe's ig post though, you could see that the screen is turned off by the time the people at the venu are singing all together. It was pitch dark so it's quite impossible that they are showing the lyrics at that time 🤔

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SoshiMECH 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

Yes and I saw a fancam of when Jennie was crying and the entire audience was singing loudly her part of the song! Is Allkpop printing articles written by trolls now?

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thesiiiiickest 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

He didn't bash them, he praised them even for performing very well and even said only snsd is able to accomplish this feat. It was a very honest and fair review, in my opinion, I didn't even know about sponsors for concerts..

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big_bang_forever 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

Sounds like a great plan to me: get a venue that you are sure can seat all your fans with much room to spare.. Then use sponsors to get potential new fans into the venue also.. Then use those 2hours to perform your ass off and secure those new fans.. More fans, more ticket sales, more money, more awareness. Genius.

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aldebaran 30 days ago 2
30 days ago

"I have been a journalists under TV/Kpop department for 5 months. Therefore I have watched many concerts"... how many concert could he possible see in 5 months?....like 10 at most?... that doesn't make you an expert, only a person that attended to 10 concerts...

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Stopudelulu 30 days ago 1
30 days ago

Korean version is 5 yrs. Try harder

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Murderfucker 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

start learning harder Korean 년 = years, (개)월= month

from article 5개월 반이 = 5 month and a half

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Menece 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

At this point if you see closely you can find that YG stans are all the same that attend almost every concert of every YG artist. And the majority are also big bang fangirls that only have cheers and lungs to spend for their oppas but have money for support almost every YG artist.

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MidnightKpop 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

Wow is this for real? I was half expecting this to be a troll article. Didn't know concert sponsorship and giving out large amount of invitation ticket for concert at this scale was a thing. I know BP is extremely popular but this kind of thing is kind of off putting. It's sourced so...

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SoshiMECH 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

FAKE NEWS

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samkang 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

geezz.. most people here are probably new kpop fan that I know most of them never go to any kpop concert before (individual/solo) concert.


I just want to share my opinion.

There is a difference between a real fan and people who attend the concert because of free and why not? Their songs are big hit anyway, at least we can sing along, right?


So I just mention the key word. Singing along doesnt mean they are a fan. Most of kpop groups have a loyal fanbase who are die hard fans. Which means they SCREAM their lungs out when they see their idol came out, not just screaming to sing along.


Real fans do interact with their idol. Thats why kpop is different from other music indistry. They are selling the person, an idol. Its not just a regular singer, its an idol who you love as an individual who you crying, screaming, and watch every variety show when their idol appeared as a guest or their own reality show.


Yes the audience are singing along, but the journalist made it clear. Besides when BP perform their songs, no one actually cheer or scream or interact when the VRs are playing or when BP come out.


If u see SNSD dream concert 2013 you can see the fans are not only singing along but actually SCREAMING HARD during the dance break session. They were calling SNSDs name because they are their idol. And people do scream during song's intro, bridge, when they pose to start, when they prepare for the next song, dance break, screaming to the melody when there are no singing part, and ofc the outro and ending.


What do you think?



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Kurapikaaa 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

Black Pink's sales of album isn't that great. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact. You can be salty and down vote me to infinity, it won't change that fact. If their fans are not spending much money on their albums, then is it that hard to believe that they probably won't spend large amount of money to attend their concert ? The denial is unreal, seriously. It makes sense when you think about it rationally. And yes, I do like Black Pink.

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Indri_hapsari 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

twice held a concert in a bigger venue than blackpink n yet they only said blackpink who can fill up the concert venue

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T_Jazz 30 days ago 2
30 days ago

In other words, it was a small concert with many commercial breaks and the only thing that profited was the venue.

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Jess_W 29 days ago 1
29 days ago

No, for the most part corporate sponsors pay full price for the tickets on top of the cost of sponsorship & signage placement... And the only customers that want or that I will give tickets to for "X" event are big fans of the team or artist(s). I go sometimes with a customer if I'm a huge fan of the artist. I love most music/artists, so I have been to numerous concerts and I sing/scream until I lose my voice & dance the whole time. And if I have any tickets left I either give to the local radio station(s) for their fan give away contests, which for concerts is where many end up. And if a customer gives me tickets back at the last minute because they cannot go, I go to the venue and stand outside until I have given them all away to fans still needing tickets.

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T_Jazz 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

Thanks for sharing this info.

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almondtree 26 days ago 0
26 days ago

no doubt the concert was a success but what the reporter is saying are still possible scenarios for some parts. people knowing the songs and singing along does not equate them to fans that will pay money to their concerts. for example Cheer Up/TT by Twice was insanely popular but that doesnt mean the population of SK who knows those songs are automatically considered all as fans who will pay for their concerts. but even if i am not a fan, and i was given a free ticket, and i only need to pay for a light stick just to get in the mood with the rest of the fans and enjoy my time at the concert, i will gladly do it.


so i think what the author was trying to say while citing other groups that highlight that performing there is a dream come true is that he thinks that such venues should be filled w solid fanbase who are willing to pay for the concert and not from sponsorships which is what he observed in this case.

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Desirea 26 days ago 0
26 days ago

America does this with sports teams. If the team is losing money for not winning, they give out free tickets to the games; pass out shirts/hats and even name cards of the team members. If they could fill the concert hall themselves there would be no need for sponsors handing out tickets. I hope this isn't true even if I'm not a fan of there's. That is a huge blow to your pride if the only reason everyone attended was sponsors handing out tickets. I work for a charity in America and one of our teams in the city I live in hasn't won a lot of games in years. So they give us at least 150 tickets a game, we can request up to 300, but they want to make sure the tickets they give you are used. If you get the tickets and only half the tickets are used they don't give us any more tickets or lower the amount. They do this for a lot of people so they can write off the tickets, but so on TV it appears like a lot of people showed up. Doing that makes people think if all the seats are filled they must be popular. When we show up with the tickets they give us clothing to put on to show that people purchased shirts and hats. They even give us score cards with information on them and sometimes flash the screen at the game when they want you to cheer. So I think it's possible to have people sing a song or two since they could have been given those songs. Companies do this to give the appearance of popularity. The appearance of popularity means making more money in the long run. You also do this by saying that a concert is selling out in minutes and then saying you are adding more seats because of that. People then trend online and that is when the actual tickets are sold.

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Rchie 28 days ago 0
28 days ago

They listed out sponsorship? Seriously? Oh gawd. I used to love BP but the way they have been promoted totally put me off. From Ads on youtube to manipulate the views to giving out tickets and getting sponsorships to fill in seats and having your artist list them out during the concert. Not to mention having a concert when they dont even have a god damn full album... 9 songs, they held a concert with 9 songs... yikes...I dont knwo if there's anything nowadays about bp that would make me as a listener proud of them and instead think it's all payola

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Celebration 30 days ago 1
30 days ago

I mean fancams show the opposite of this article. I am also pretty sure 2ne1 filled out their concerts. Kara filled out in Japan. Ikon does just fine. This person screams hater. And for someone who has done only 5 years. How do you go about talking about groups that retire far before you started?

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Murderfucker 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

Not 5 years but 5 months...

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alicehalf 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

Sad but still, if it was really true it still makes him sounds like a hater. I need more proof and videos.

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MC_Kpop 17 days ago 0
17 days ago

I think its probably true. Although I think Blackpink is pretty charming, the way YG promoting them is almost like pushing them to the audience around the world.

I can't believe how come a korean song they can put promote in english playlists in spotify. It really awkward to see it in multiple spotify playlists that is not kpop theme. I totally doubt the possibility spotify would put it in without YG paid promotion.

And looks like lots of korean site post BP resales concert ticket saying they just got free sponsored tickets. They even try to resale at really low price but not much people interest in them.

I think BP is doing really well in thai or Indonesian market, but it is also famous that they dont have strong fanbase in south korea.

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whatever101 24 days ago 0
24 days ago

this article is.....weird since it makes it sound like the majority of people in attendance were paid by someone to pretend to be a fan (this is a real thing i kid you not) but yet #EverybodyKnows BP are currently one of the hottest IT GIRL GROUPS in the industry and it should hardly be a challenge for them to sell out seats


honestly if selling out concerts was so hard i feel K-pop should be doing more to make it easier for international fans to learn about and purchase tickets if they happen to be visiting Korea instead of the hassle that is going through a 3rd party.

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aldebaran 28 days ago 0
28 days ago

Im watching a lot of Fancams form the first day, and people cheer, sing and shout at BP very loudly. Even the crowd cheer and laught at the part when the girls "thanks" one by one the sponsors of the concert (really cute). So i don't know what is he talking about... maybe with his vast experience in the field he went to the wrong concert?....

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Diamond_White 28 days ago 0
28 days ago

What a lucky journalist.. He/she goes to concerts for free.. What an amazing job..

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gigi9 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

lol what's this guy saying there r fancams of the entire stadium singing forever Young and stay, Jennie cried after hearing them , Rose posted the fancam and said this is all unbelievable, so did the sponsors make the audience memorize the lyrics in two days?

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Kiki_Imti 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

i don't care what people say , we international fans will love and support in every way to our Queens!!!

BLACKPINK IS THE REVOLUTION!!!

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ketisanmo 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

But didn't TVXQ did that too in their concert in japan. Giving out invitation tickets for special group for promotion There was so much talk in japanese twitter then that the management was just trying to make it look like it is full house? why the double standard in reporting.

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iluvkpop9000 29 days ago 1
29 days ago

How do they not know what ‘blink’ is but majority of them have a lightstick?

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Kurapikaaa 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

Consider the possibility that many of those light sticks were given for free. It's not that far fetch to think that it might be the case when you know that many of the concert tickets were also given away for free. You might be right, I don't know. It's just a possibilty.

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Jess_W 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

The "journalist" needs to learn how corporate sponsorship works. Companies receive hundreds of tickets to every sporting events and concerts that come to any venue that they sponsor. I receive a stack of tickets to nearly every event that is within a few hundred miles of my location to give to some of our best customers or potential large customers. If a large customer contacts me with enough lead time I can get them free tickets to almost any event around the globe. And yes a sponsors logo is normally displayed at various locations around the venue & during some breaks is displayed on the projection/LED screen(s). It's a marketing expense considered as a "customer acquisition" expense.

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ATA 30 days ago 2
30 days ago

I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on this article. Why? Because the fancams don't lie. There were several fancams from many different angles and they tell a very different story. If the venue was filled with non-fans, how is it that the venue was filled with people holding their lights tick? How is it that the venue was full of people singing their songs? Non-fans don't buy lighsticks and they don't know the songs

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Murderfucker 30 days ago 1
30 days ago

several fancams? Tons of fancams (+ me testing 125x zoom with Nikon P1000)... Some fans even streamed live whole concert...

Even now you can search so many videos from the concert even in youtube.. there was many Jennie SOLO leaks.. etc.

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ATA 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

You're right

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lostrichkid 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

Ladies and gentlemen, this is a clear example how ALLKPOP is an anti-YG news site, and so SM-biased.
This is so unfair.

This is not the first and the only time allkpop attempted to ruin a YG artist/s' image,
and there will be more in the future.

I'll make a bet! The reporter talking is a an allkpop employee.

Just use Soompi, guys.

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DredgeRivers 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

This could NOT have been written by an actual journalist! Very poorly written... 'Hit you with that crappy, crappy post.' Consider getting an actual job maybe??

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Stopudelulu 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

LOL. I said many times that flop pink didn't manage to sell out their tix but blonk snapped. They were doing so many contests to give away free tix. Wow seems like they begged ppl to attend by looking for sponsors. How pathetic is that?? Lmao


Or else the venue will be half empty. Druggie yg is the king of delulu. Lmao

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JawDropper 30 days ago 0
30 days ago

their vocals & styles are so 2ne1

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