jennkyube oooxtina • Saturday, December 24, 2016

One: they are not the spokesperson for Korean force who went around promoting the military and promised everyone to enlist. Two: these rich kids don't leave the country and obtain citizenship somewhere else. Once you pass that immigration gate it'll be hard for you to return. Technically a country doesn't even need any reason to ban someone, they can just do it. Steve Yoo has been given a lot of chances to repent and fix his mistakes (he was even allowed to be in Korea for his fsther-in-law's funeral back in 2003) but he never took those chances. He only started to beg after he passed the age requirement for military service. I think people like him are more dangerous than the rich people who evade the service. They at least do it quietly. This guy uses media play to attract pity from other people (though one backfired when he was heard cursing after he made an apology video lol).

peterpet crazyft • Friday, December 23, 2016

Lets start from the beginning then. In 2002, right before he being drafted into military service, he renounce his Korean Nationality by becoming a US citizen. This mean that it is no longer compulsory for him to be conscripted. By doing so, he establish a popular new way to evade mandatory military service by renouncing Korean Citizenship. Before, people usually try to get exemption from going to Military Service by faking illness, having surgery or argue that they are the sole breadwinner of the family. If you are found guilty to try to evade then you can be jail or sentence to a longer period of serving in military. However because this man is no longer a Korean Citizen, They can't punish him that way. After he get his Us citizenship, he fly back into Korea but he is not allow to leave the airport. His entry into the country is refuse,he was later deported and given permanent banned from entering the country. However, in 2003 he is allow back into Korea to attend his father-in-law funeral. Because of his popular method of making oneself no longer compulsory to attend military service by renouncing citizenship, a new law is pass in 2005, that basically said if you are a man(age 18 to 35), you cannot renounce your Korean citizenship unless you already completed the military service. Moving on to 2011, SBS had a TV program that help past idol to make a comeback, on one of the episode, they try to investigate on the whole population to vote on supporting his comeback in South Korea. This man, Yoo Seung Joon however later commented " I don't care about the vote, i am not going to comeback in Korea ". We skip to 2015(his age is 39,military service are only applicable until your age 35), when suddenly out of blue he make an apologies video and say that he willing do anything so that he can step back into the country. after that he try to apply for the F-4 visa which later denied. when his F-4 visa is denied, he then sued Korean Consulate. He loss the lawsuit. He appeal on the result which was later also denied. and that bring us to this article where he(his lawyer) argue that out of 17,229 that evade military enlistment, he the only one that prohibited to enter the country. Now i will explain to you a little bit about the F-4 visa that he demand from Korean Consulate. The F-4(people of Korean heritage) visa can be regarded as the best visa you can have because you will have the freedom almost as much as a Korean citizen. you can work in any job that you want, you can stay anywhere in Korea without reporting to the local immigration, your stay up to 2 years in Korea and it can be extend by application. not to mention by having F-4 visa you can go in and out of the country freely as long as the visa remain active. That is why in the article you can see that the court reply that "On September 30, the singer had lost his case. The court had previously stated, "Obtaining U.S. citizenship and trying to get a visa to continue working as an entertainer can encourage others to evade military service...The visa issue rejection is not unjust...."" He is not just asking permission to enter the country for a brief period of time.He don't ask to be given permission to enter Korea for a day or a week. He demanded to be given The F-4 visa that will allow him to do as much as a normal Korean citizen can. The F-4 Visa that will allow him to comeback as a singer or maybe an actor in South Korea.

peterpet just_ynej • Friday, December 23, 2016

i'm wondering too. are those 17,299 individual also demand to be given the F-4 visa and later sue Korean Consulate when they don't want to give it to him.

NORM just_ynej • Friday, December 23, 2016

Nah i think the others evaded & either never came back or stayed on the down low. Plus he was an entertainer/ public figure when he evaded so pple wud be more pissed

jennkyube just_ynej • Friday, December 23, 2016

I think the crime is the same, but I doubt those 17,000 people left the country and obtain citizenship somewhere else. Once you pass that immigration gate it would be hard for you to go back in with "traitor" label on your back. MC Mong also evaded the enlistment. People still hate him, but they can't make him leave the country. He's a Korean-descent citizen, deportation doesn't apply for him.

peterpet Ryen • Friday, December 23, 2016

he already lose the appeal.but he he can try, his lawyer would be glad to make more money.

peterpet BTSaranghae • Friday, December 23, 2016

yup, that him

Jseolhee BTSaranghae • Friday, December 23, 2016

HEOL.. REALLY?

BTSaranghae Jseolhee • Friday, December 23, 2016

Yeeahh~~ He was apologizing but then afterwards he cursed and said why he have to apologized?? I guess it was something like that Heheheh

just_ynej lizvip • Friday, December 23, 2016

well yeah.. but i'm really curious as to what the others did.. I mean they compared him to 17,298 individuals. That's a lot and he's the only person that's been banned. (if what they say is true). It just means that out of those thousands, he's the one who committed the heaviest/greatest sin. I;m wondering if no one made the same mistake as him. Well, i guess, if there is, his lawyers could've told already..

lizvip just_ynej • Sunday, December 25, 2016

actually if you investigate, does 17,298 individuals, actually have medical problems and other stuff that could not permit them to serve. As well he was the one that promised to servePUBLICLY and NEVER did, and on TOP of that he only waited till he was 35 to start this process, when he could NOT serve any more. And every year they asked him about it, he siad he had NO INTERREST in returning to korea. He was the POSTER guy promoting enlistment, SURE they have to make a example out of him

lizvip just_ynej • Sunday, December 25, 2016

other celebrities try, example MC mog and had to go to jail, psy have do his service TWICE, why the hell would they let him in , when he cant do anything moe about it because of his age?

peterpet just_ynej • Sunday, December 25, 2016

if you are wondering about that , then NO. none of the 17,299 try to evade by giving up their ROK citizenship. They evade by using other method.

Summer97 juanpcchicken • Friday, December 23, 2016

agree, its because he is a public figure, people watching him either good or bad people, just imagine if he is allowed to get a visa. people will ignore that rule.

peterpet wangjoonie • Friday, December 23, 2016

US tourist/citizen are not required visa for stay under 90 days....