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Posted by yckim124 AKP STAFF Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Former Stellar member Gayoung reveals how the group was forced into sexual concepts

Gayoung revealed sexy girl group Stellar was forced to take provocative concepts. 

On December 10, Insight met with the former Stellar member at her cafe in Seoul. Gayoung, who runs a cafe business following Stellar's disbandment, opened up about the hardships she faced during 7 years of Stellar promotions. 

Gayoung said, "At the beginning of our debut, our concept was close to cute. We received a lot of attention because we were a group produced by Shinhwa's Eric." However, Stellar did not do well for 3-4 years. The group ultimately left Eric's agency and decided to release "Marionette" with a sexy concept. 

The MV producers demanded a member to "weakly leak the milk while drinking it." 


The member simply followed the directions but the scene was edited in a sexual format. Gayoung said, "I was very shocked. The member who drank the milk was 20 years old at the time. She couldn't drink white milk since then due to shock. She was hurt. We really did not know it was like that (during filming)."

Gayoung continued, "During 'Vibrato,' they demanded us to wear provocative clothing on the day of filming. We told them we absolutely cannot dance in that but they said, 'Just do it. Why are you complaining without even trying?' So after taking only 5 cuts, we said, 'See, it's too provocative.' But those photos went on the album."


Gayoung revealed, "When we told them, 'We don't want to do this,' they said, 'You better think of the contract with the agency.' At a young age, we were scared of that. We were afraid that we would have to pay the violation fee."


Stellar is a memory Gayoung wants to erase. She said, "I don't want to go back." To the people who dream of becoming an idol, Gayoung said, "If you are trying out of curiosity and because the idol world seems fabulous, I want to say don't do it. If it's your dream then work die hard for it. If you did work hard but it didn't turn out well, don't think of it as a 'failure.' Just find a path that suits you better."


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180915 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 12
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

I'm shooked at how disgusting they were treated! Those producers should be fucking ashamed! Those poor girls.

They had to do something they were absolutely not comfortable with just so they earn their company more money.

I'm glad they disbanded and don't have to do things like this anymore.

I hope things are better for them now

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HeeJoo12 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

I agree. No one deserves to be treated this way >_<

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peladocarlos Wednesday, December 19, 2018 10
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

This is a business, all the companies want is revenue. And sex always sells good...

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armyarohablink Wednesday, December 19, 2018 21
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

The company should be ashamed for forcing girls into this. It's sexual harassment.

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Fatndumb Thursday, December 20, 2018 20
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Shut the fuck up..sexual harassment. Are you daft? These women have all the ability in the world to walk away.

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Greaseball_Namu Friday, December 21, 2018 3
Friday, December 21, 2018

Your username describes you perfectly.. are you a troll lmao

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peladocarlos Friday, December 21, 2018 2
Friday, December 21, 2018

The only thing your comment tells us is that you clearly don't know how this industry works...

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gonfreecss 30 days ago 3
30 days ago

it clearly states that they were bound by contract and u should know very well if that's violated there's a huge fine to pay idiot

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Blueblankety Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

I heard about this groups situation a while ago.. and I couldn’t believe the comments saying they should’ve just left if they didn’t want to do it.

First off they are contractually obligated to do so and after years of training and hard work you would want to tell yourself all of that resulted in somethin, bec human nature and all.


I wish this story got more traction to highlight predatory behaviour of some directors, producers, and heads of company. I’m sure it’s worse behind the scene of small sketchy companies. Both men and women idols shouldn’t have to compromise their sexual intergrity to work.


Hopefully the companies become more transparent with the public but it will likely won’t happen soon


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jox 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

they werent forced to have sex, they were in business to be sexy. in they didnt want to just leave and lsoe the job

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manipop Wednesday, December 19, 2018 16
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

This is my I can't stand fans praising sexy concepts. These girls aren't Beyonce. None if it is their choice. Don't act like its a win for female idols to do a sexy concept when these are concepts chosen by a man, mvs directed by man, and likely choreographed and written by a man.

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ratmonster Wednesday, December 19, 2018 7
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

But you could also say the same about cute concepts, you really think NCT dream and Twice, Astro etc choose to wear those overly cute clothing? And act that way? I know they don’t really act super adorable anymore because they matured but nct dream and astro most likely hated wearing those little shorts and being made to act like 10 year olds...

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Ricu Wednesday, December 19, 2018 5
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

I fully understand your point, but I think the difference is that, with cute concepts, almost everyone is aware that it is not the girls' choice to do something like that, I never see people assume otherwise. But when there is a sexy concept, people suddenly start to say things like "finally some confident girls!" or "they are so confident with their sexuality, that's what we need!" and they basically think that it is some new type of female empowerment when women are basically just acting out what men want to see from them.

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Blink_Once_3202 Saturday, December 22, 2018 0
Saturday, December 22, 2018

I think they would still feel way more comfortable doing a cute concept.

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peladocarlos Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

One thing is doing 'sexy concepts', this is way over that... At least in terms of what most companies understand for that. This was plainly sexual, just without the nakedness.

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gigi9 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Why does it have to be a choice between soft porn or music for 3years old and pedophiles? Why can't they just be normal and do normal music? I know why! Normal music requires real talent which they cover-up with concepts and flashy outfits when they lack it

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iBangChan Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

that's so bullshit! how can they do that? companies are so unscrupulous

i always saw that kind of stuff and thought the group members consented to it or that they knew, but i can see how sometimes they wouldn't know how vulgar certain things would really turn out

and the funny thing is sometimes it doesnt even work and you still dont get popular

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BangtanVIP Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

I saw these MVs and was quite shocked and disgusted that women are portrayed like that. I am really sorry that they were forced to do it. I would be ashamed that my parents and friends would watch this. Thats the problem when you are under a small agency. You either have really good talent and make it or have to find other ways to attract attention.

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deza7744 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Finally this issue is raised up again, already knew about this since they talked about it, but they seriously were treated very badly....

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pink_oracle Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Where's the stupid asshole who always says, "they knew what they were signing up for".

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HyperQ4 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

they knew what they were signing up for

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krell Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

(Glancing Around at Others!) ... ;)

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kylepop Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Pascal will always be the worst company in kpop. They treated their artists like dirt. Even in their final album, they released a CD and forgot to even add Gayoung into the promo material ... I mean, who does that? She was so hurt. I’m so glad these girls are free.

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IMSO1977 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

A read a few comments, and I guess if there were no MV, then no artist would have to worry about being sexualized. And before you place the blame solely at the music executive, video producers, etc. feet...as Michael Jackson said in his song "take a look at yourself...start with the man in the mirror!" If public demand for these demeaning concept wasn't so great then they wouldn't pander to what nasty people want. There was no public outry when those MVs were released, I'm guessing. And it's a shame to be forced into a corner, because you just want to survive. If anything, I hope her coming forward helps other females who hope to be entertainers. I hope they know what they will and will not conform to...that's why it's dangerous to allow young kids to be taken in by entertainment companies that speaks thousands of dollars and man hours brainwashing them in to perfectly imperfect puppets. That's the side of K-pop I hate... they're perfectly manufactured robots. It is making me rethink my love for the genre...because I don't want to support abuse. And that's what I and everyone of us is doing when we buy, watch or anything these artist products...we maybe contributing to their abuse. ...just saying.

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Donna_Dash Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Abuse is everywhere in kpop even in huge succesful groups. It's not like the companies (or the idols) hide it they're actually very nonchalant about it. And they all get forced to do stuff they don't want to. This story is an extreme example but the basis of it happens everywhere in kpop. Idols sign away all their rights when they debut.

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gigi9 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

I said this before , that these girls were forced into this but ya'll so dumb , u were babbling some bullshit about how its the 21st century and girls r free to strip, that's what they westerners wants u to think that it's ur choice when it isnt and u just end up looking like cheap meat thinking ur empowered like this

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peladocarlos Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

This is old news... Since the release of "Marionette" the members always complained about how the company forced them to do such concepts.

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krell Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

I *disagree* with you. The previous 'spin' that was put on the MARIONETTE MV situation by STELLAR Group, was that they did NOT want to do it. BUT, since their WHOLESOME (Cute) Concepts did NOT ever earn any MONEY, it was a *mutual* decision by both the AGENCY *and* the STELLAR Group members to 'go with' a more 'Sensual Concept' as MARIONETTE MV was. This AKP ARTICLE (references another Article as SOURCE) does *add* that GAYOUNG was afraid that IF they REFUSED to do a 'Sensual Concept' ; that their AGENCY would bring LEGAL ACTION (so *significant* FINANCIAL PUNISHMENT) against the STELLAR Group members. Which, that is an *important* DIFFERENT SPIN toward a more NEGATIVE aspect of the reality of it all. At least as GAYOUNG now tells it.

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Lacrxymosa Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

here's how kpop actually works

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walkertexasrange Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

lol shocking.....come on, just looking at their music video, pretty sure everyone knew

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ana_martins Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

the biggest shame was to see people defending this kind of "sexy" concept everytime a group (specially ggroup) does it (edit: even more shame bc i am reading the comments and some people still defending this shit. are you guys seriously?! hope you guys never pass by a situation like this)

This just proves that 99% of these groups with super sexual concept are forced to do it. this girl is not even the first one talking that her group was forced to do sexual concepts and they felt unconfortable and didnt wanted to do it.

How many more ggroups talking that felt uncomfortable for you guys open your eyes at stop suporting this sexual abuse?! Just wake up. this is not female empowerment. it will never be in a industry ruled by man and idols dont pass of mere puppets without decision power

those poor girls besides being forced to sexual concepts received a lot of hate when the ones that should be criticized is their former shitty company

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Festizio Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

I kind of assumed this was the case. The video for Sting, for instance, is very provocative but they play it off quite casually and the feel seems to be annoyance with this sort of concept (though obviously still using it was the point.) But the photobook for the mini-album, it's the group members in the same outfits and they have very uncomfortable looks on their faces. It's very hard to look at which is a shame because I love that album (and I have a copy up on eBay that no one wants to buy, it's a shame, because it's rare AND it's fantastic.)

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SAAY Thursday, December 20, 2018 1
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Ummmm I understand what she’s saying but you also have to understand the agency. Stellar is a group that flopped from beginning to end. Yes they had some fans, mainly international but they weren’t very successful. Once they signed with their new agency I think the agency looked at their track record, they released “Rocket Girl”, “UFO”, and “Study” which were all cute concepts that got them nowhere. “Marionette” although it was a flop on the charts gained them a lot of attention and so did “Vibrato”, so I think while the concepts were difficult for someone like Gayoung to do, the agency wanted them to do a 360 to see if sexy concepts would work for them. An example, look @ Jihyun of 4Minute, the Hip-Hop concepts they did sometimes she looked extremely awkward and you can tell it wasn’t her thing but she made the best of it

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krell Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_(group)#Singles

You make some GOOD points. But MARIONETTE MV had *3 Times* the Digital Sales of ANY of their other MV song releases. Of course, MARIONETTE MV doing a 'peak' at #37 on the Chart, is NOT an 'ALL KILL' of any sort. As to IF that is still a "FLOP" as you put it, NOT looking for the debate here ... ;)

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Bear2 Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Wow.. that is very disgusting. Poor them.. This just show how difficult it is for idols in the industry especially for girls.

I hate it when people say "they know what they sign". If it is that simple then why this kind of thing still happen? Why they feel being abused? Why thousand people get fraud everyday even after reading and signing something? Signing a contract doesnt mean that you will lost all your human right and should just keep quiet when people do unfair things to you. That just show how much bullshit these company contract are. I bet they put all those high cancellation fee to make it harder for idols to make choices and decision for their ownself. If company think that it is not fair for their side, then at least treat your artist better. But when idol using the legal way to terminate their contract i bet some fans also will called them traitor. Not to forget all that blacklisting these idol will have to face.

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elfinkyy Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

@ all the netizens/everyone who was criticising them for their sexy concepts

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gigi9 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

here is the truth no one wants to admit, if You're not talented u will end up sex meat or in a school uniform and all to please the men..2ne1 is basically the only group that made it without having to do neither, and without even fitting the standard beauty and body measurements! They made it with real content and quality songs : If I were you, Missing you, Ugly, I love you, Come Back Home, to name a few.. we all know only few r talented enough to sing songs like that that's y they resort to weird concepts

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Donna_Dash Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

In some way that is true BUT 2ne1 had no creative control over their music when they debuted. It was only when they worked on their second album that they got creative control and it was only CL who was involved in the writing/composing, so were they really any different?

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enzoa Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Nope. There wasn't all that talent in YG's successful groups, but the agency has always been great in marketing them. As a matter of fact, when things were going south, CL also tried to uncover her ass.

Except for a few fortunate cases, you don't go anywhere with talent only. Success is always a complex mixture of various ingredients.

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AyaniELF Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

This is how almost all companies are. Look at TLC for example, an American group that when they tried to break free had so many fines. What people who wish to be idols don't realize is that you are a PRODUCT. The money that goes into your promotion, costumes, producers...etc is a loan. You pay it back through sales and if you aren't selling then that amount increases and you're left with debt.

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eager_beaver Wednesday, December 19, 2018 3
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

"Stellar is a memory Gayoung wants to erase."


Damn, that's tough. To hear that a member of a group you really liked literally wants to erase the years that went by is heartbreaking. (Even though I liked them, I wasn't blind to what happened with them and their company. It was clear to all of us that they were pressured into things they didn't want to do.)

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Donna_Dash Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

People actually liked the things they released?? It's basically soft porn, the music was trash.

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Nina14red Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Yes people did like their music. The uncomfortable "sexy concept" not so much.

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enzoa Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Actually, all their releases after "Marionette" are great, except the very last one.

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hatedumbfangirls Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

The MV or "overly sexy" concept don't bother me. WHat bothers me is they were made to do it. To me, it's not much different than some girl groups who are forced to do "cute" concepts when they really don't want to. Ultimately these companies want u to "sell" which is actually also understandable from their pov. Generally speaking If u don't sell, either they give up on u or make u try different things. It's just the nature of the Kpop world. $$$ is CRUCIAL in any business

Imo. ALL IDOLS should plan ahead on what they would do after their generic 7 year contract ends just in case it doesn't work out. Even if u are in a group that requires "teamwork", don't forget to be selfish and create your own path while being an "idol". If u want to stay in the industry, make sure u get or experience acting, variety or MCing jobs while being in the group. That way when contract ends, u have options. Don't ever 100% depend on being in a group after contract ends. Prepare your own path from the very begnning

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Raina_Dash 3 days ago 0
3 days ago

hah wheres the idiots who thought they chose to do those concepts

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PriceyDiamond_21 4 days ago 0
4 days ago

"If it's your dream then work die hard for it. If you did work hard but it didn't turn out well, don't think of it as a 'failure.' Just find a path that suits you better."

:' great quote


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Andromeda_z 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

That's really sad... I remember when they came to my country for an event and were asked about the purse scene from Vibrato in an interview, they looked really uncomfortable/embarrassed and tried to make an excuse about it's meaning.

I don't really like to talk about this kind of issue on the internet thanks to misogyny, but please don't say that the girls knew and asked for it, no one wants to be disrespected or oversexuallized, they didn't have any power in their company. Actually, a lot of idols don't have it, they must do whatever their superiors demand and if they don't want to do that (with a fake smile upon their faces) or want to resign, they'll be sued and will have to pay a huge amount of money that, almost every time, they don't have.

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DetN 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Not shocked if you followed Stellar in the past. It was the same situation with Hyuna. She didn't wanted to do sexy concepts, it was no secret if you follow kpop in general but now she's stuck with that image.

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FroggyBoy 29 days ago 0
29 days ago

So... each individual thing they did to them, I could forgive. However, when they keep mistreating them like that, there's just a lack of respect. Especially since they've already said that they didn't want to. It all adds up in the end. It's like that in a relationship as well. It's not what you did this time that your partner is actually upset about, it's all of the things you've done. Small things simply add up.

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jox 29 days ago 1
29 days ago

i dont see the problem, the cute concepts is boring

also they are not kids, doing something ultra cute at their age is retarded

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LadyLuna22 8 days ago 0
8 days ago

There's a difference between a cute concept and something childish, there's a difference between sexy and sexual.


The problem was that they said they felt very uncomfortable doing things like this, but we're forced to do so regardless of how they felt.

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vpriyajr Saturday, December 22, 2018 0
Saturday, December 22, 2018

sexy is what hyuna or jessi does and not this.. this is extremely sexual and some of the scenes are indirectly indicating female body parts..

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kevanimeweird Saturday, December 22, 2018 0
Saturday, December 22, 2018

im not surprised just wanna say its good that they leave that company n i think they should promote in a another company ..like highlight

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MK_Zi Friday, December 21, 2018 0
Friday, December 21, 2018

when you're young and even when you're a bit older. you never really listen to anyone even if you knew. Because until you try. you just won't believe it. what gayoung said in the end is the most realistic thing I've ever heard from kpop.

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Rita2020 Friday, December 21, 2018 0
Friday, December 21, 2018

This is so sad a lot of unnoticed groups go through this in order to gain more fame or at least try...

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DED_LEE Friday, December 21, 2018 0
Friday, December 21, 2018

I really like their song "Crying" ^^


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Anpanman Thursday, December 20, 2018 3
Thursday, December 20, 2018

I loved their songs but it's shitty they were forced into these concepts.

This is the reason I can't enjoy sexual concepts in kpop, you never know the true feelings of the group who's doing it

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kizaru_hijin 29 days ago 2
29 days ago

exactly, because youre known as longan lychee, the most disgusting sexist scum ever, who always blames men for everything and wish all male celebrities to die, because according to you, they are all criminals and rapists...

you always use such cases to further justify your hate for all men, while you dont care one bit about these female victims, you never cared about others, just about yourself and your hate for men, because of your own ugliness, that makes every guy avoid you in the biggest distance possible...you even loved it when jonghyun died, thats how disgusting and sexist you are...

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Anpanman 28 days ago 1
28 days ago

OBSESSED LAMO

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kizaru_hijin 28 days ago 0
28 days ago

just calling you out on being the most disgusting sexist scum, who wished male celebrities to die on a daily basis with your longan_lychee account...

and like always you have absolutely nothing against me in your hands, so you desperately try to use anything, mostly lies, even this obsessed bullshit, in hope to get help from others, while its only your own accounts that you use to support yourself...

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firebymadclown Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

its such a shame bc vibrato is one of the best produced kpop songs to date, yet they were not comfortable w the concept.

way to ruin a song reputation, but try distance song and producer and just download it, dont give them money ahaha

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9AF Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

We sometimes forget that the entertainers in the kpop industry are employees of the label. And like any other employee of a company, you do what you're told or you're fired. They may have suspected what was going to happen but they basically had no choice, other than to break their contract which, in kpop, could result in them getting sued by the label for projected losses and payment for training. Would the likes of Taylor Swift have to do something she's not comfortable with and risk being sued? No! In the kpop world, yes!

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kpoplovermay Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

theyre whole situation is just so sad and horrid, :( i hope things will be better for them in the future ..

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kpoplove83 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

ok, so they obviously knew what leaking the milk would look like AND what they would look like in provocative clothes. HOWEVER they were young and unsure of what to do most likely. or just trusting enough to think that things would be ok. inexperienced young adults or even kids don't know how to stand up for themselves in situations like these... especially in the hyper-patriarchal society that is korea. what a shame!

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changminbaby Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

why im not surprised?? i know that its darker more than the way it looks, those companies should get sued imagine other idols going through the same thing we all know its not the first or the only victim, its always about threatening you either do it or something else to scary them they have to obey them

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jeyjin Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

I feel kinda bad for them. That concept hurt the group in the long run. When idols do concepts like that, people lose interest but the idols have to keep one upping themselves.

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Soulbrother Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

They had such great songs also, vibrato is a classic.

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9AF Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Reminds me of Four Ladies' (4L) "MOVE" video. Although the sexy concept can be provocative, it can, at times, be a groups demise. 4L went through several members and only lasted 2 years. Both 4L and Stellar were really good and had the potential to be around for a long time. It's a shame!

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krell Thursday, December 20, 2018 1
Thursday, December 20, 2018

I would argue that being *forced* to remain a member of a Female K-pop Group that does a 'Sensual Concept' that you do NOT want to do it, is NOT always done by *ALL* K-pop Agencies. For example, my *guess* is that say IF that a TWICE Group member wanted to QUIT from their TWICE Group over 'Concept Issues' ; that JYPe Agency would *allow* that TWICE Group member to *walk away* without any problems. REGARDLESS of what their CONTRACT with JYPe Agency might be. But that would be *TOP TIER* type K-pop Agency behavior. Unfortunately, with *lesser* K-pop Agencies, like what STELLAR Group had it, you see *intimidation* type behavior from them MUCH MORE, towards members of their *contracted* K-pop Groups.

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Blink_Once_3202 Saturday, December 22, 2018 0
Saturday, December 22, 2018

Geez, what's with all the capitals?

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whatever101 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

a better suggestion would be, dont become an idol unless you can join the Big 3 since even the least popular groups/members are worth millions

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sieghart Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

now i understand why she always seemed the least sexy out of the 4 girls. she was strongly against the sexy concepts so i guess it showed in her performances and outfits.

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Fatndumb Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Conveniently, the only reason anyone knows who you are. 👶

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Uibyong Thursday, December 20, 2018 1
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Whatever. It totally worked. When they tried anything else they flopped. Those songs and videos were great. Get over it.

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krell Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

I did UP VOTE you. BUT I am not quite comfortable with the idea that what the AGENCY did it (somewhat FINANCIAL INTIMIDATION via 'threatened' LAWSUIT) is to be admired very much. But HOPEFULLY, the *success* of MARIONETTE MV did translate into *significant* MONEY INCOME for the STELLAR Group members themselves. I do NOT like considering the 'notion' that perhaps MOST of the MONEY went to the AGENCY instead.

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enzoa Thursday, December 20, 2018 0
Thursday, December 20, 2018

Sorry that she was uncomfortable, but I think they were great at what they did. They have nothing to be ashamed of. Let's be real, when they were produced by Eric they were simply anonymous.

Showbiz is a harsh and dark environment in every part of the world, there's no such thing as a beginner that can dictate conditions to the agency.

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qst3552 Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

The sexier the better. Cute concepts are weird and stupid, even annoying to people outside of Japan/Korea. Culture has to appeal to people internationally to be successful. As Korea becomes more diverse and as people change the cuteness fad will fade away and won't appeal to anyone anymore. People who complain about the job they themselves chose should not receive validation.

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LadyLuna22 8 days ago 0
8 days ago

The problem with your argument is that you see cute concepts as some faster that will fade away when cute concepts are a major part of K-pop.


Groups have different reasons for doing cute concepts and they are all not the same.


Chewing Gum-NCT Dream

Hot Summer-f(x)

Likey-Twice

Just Right-GOT7

Get Cool-StrayKids

Apanman-BTS

Power-EXO


These are songs are examples that not all cute concepts are the same. It's a part of their culture and they shouldn't have to get rid of it to appeal to others. If that happens then the genre looses a piece of what made it special.

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Charlesm (Banned) Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

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krell Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE9NZYITRAA

KPOP trainee experience: I was scouted by a KPOP company? Why I rejected it
From PLOOPY678 ; Active AKP User ; Long Time ; Still Doing K-pop Dance Covers

12 Minutes duration ; DEFINITELY worth the view

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krell Wednesday, December 19, 2018 2
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Okay, I'll likely get in 'trouble' for posting this, but here goes. What is NOT discussed here in GAYOUNG's situation with STELLAR Group, is IF and HOW MUCH MONEY (say 'Plus Side' Bank Account Balance) that GAYOUNG did have it (or not) when STELLAR Group did DISBAND. In other words, we do NOT know how much PROFIT ($$$$) was generated by STELLAR Group with their 'Sensual Concept' MARIONETTE type K-pop Music. Also, we do NOT know either, how MUCH of the PROFIT went to the AGENCY as opposed to the STELLAR Group members (their 'splitting' of the PROFITS manner). We do KNOW it though, that *significantly* MORE MONEY was earned by STELLAR Group via that 'Sensual Concept' K-pop Music ... So again, I would be interested as to say HOW MUCH 'Net Worth' that GAYOUNG had it, when STELLAR Group did DISBAND ??? ... In other words, this AKP Article is a GOOD one, but *critical* information is also missing (NOT AKP fault).

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Nina14red Wednesday, December 19, 2018 1
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

What does their net worth or profits have to do with them being forced to do an uncomfortable overtly sexy concept?

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krell Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Okay, you've got me in the 'trouble' zone. I would say that the AGENCY was rather 'heavy handed' in trying to 'convince' ALL the STELLAR Group members that the MARIONETTE MV Concept would earn them MORE MONEY. And so STELLAR Group should DO it, even if they were NOT comfortable with it, and would prefer a WHOLESOME Concept MV instead. And MARIONETTE MV had *3 TIMES the DIGITAL SALES* of ANY of the other STELLAR Group MVs. So, IF that STELLAR Group was abused, which seems LIKELY that they were *intimidated* by their AGENCY, I would also like to know IF that STELLAR Group MEMBERS got DECENT MONEY INCOME for THEMSELVES as a result of that MARIONETTE MV. But, I am NOT saying that the AGENCY was on any sort of 'high road' of morality in all of this. The statements that I recall them from OTHER STELLAR Group members, was that they were nervous about the MARIONETTE MV concept. BUT, their FANS did LIKE it, and STELLAR Group did like the MORE MONEY that they EARNED as a result of their more 'Sensual Concept' K-pop Music. So, I was WONDERING just HOW MUCH MONEY that STELLAR Group members might have had it (their NET WORTH) when STELLAR Group did shut down. To end up doing a 'Sensual Concept' that was somewhat discomforting for STELLAR Group, and having NOT MUCH MONEY to show for that in the end, would seem a SAD conclusion. So again, I was WONDERING on the Net Worth that STELLAR Group members did have it to 'show' for their efforts in the end. Hope that comes across okay.

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_Jarhon Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Again with this pathetic victim narrative and the trash that believes in it.


So you failed miserably for YEARS in a competitive industry according to your own words. Then your company gave you the OPTION of either admitting you're not talented and successful and quit. OR... try to sell with sex.


You as a completely free minded woman CHOSE to sell with sex. But now you're trying to peddle some bullshit that you didn't know what was going on when YOU showed up on set half naked. You didn't know what was going on when you were spreading your legs and licking stuff. Are you fucking for real?


You're a grown ass woman in her 20s, old enough to vote and be a mother. But you'd have us believe you're mentally at the level of a 12yo or less, just to fit in your victim narrative.


It's hilarious that this whiny victim bullshit comes from feminism, you know that ideology that USED to be about how women are STRONG, INDEPENDENT, CAPABLE. Guess not anymore.


Actually, the most hilarious but also fucking SAD thing here is that this new form of spineless whiney feminism has managed to brainwashed young women so badly that 90% of the comment section actually believes in this horseshit and doesn't have an ounce of critical thinking.


This will end so well for civilization...

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Kosmo_Lap Wednesday, December 19, 2018 62
Wednesday, December 19, 2018



She looked genuinely happy wearing a bikini, though.
I call this BS.
Trying to earn sympathy for their failure.

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renapxn Wednesday, December 19, 2018 61
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

You know it's real easy to fake emotion, right?

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Huhuhh Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

Yeah..its easy to fake emotions in front camera..smile widely but deep down inside full of sadness..most of them suffer depression..dont compare with aegyo,is different..i guess some people doesnt know that agency trained them to be in a such character..

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Kosmo_Lap Wednesday, December 19, 2018 59
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

If it's easy, why do many idols burst into laughter when doing aegyo, etc?

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krell Wednesday, December 19, 2018 0
Wednesday, December 19, 2018

https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/stellar-photos-slideshows.20107/

STELLAR ; Photos ; Slideshows

(Note: I did NOT personally do any of these STELLAR Photos. And AKP Users are curious to view them)

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