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Posted by KayRosa AKP STAFF 13 days ago

'Forbes' explains why BTS is ineligible for 'Best New Artist' at the Grammy's

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'Forbes' announced that BTS has been allegedly ruled ineligible for the rookie award at the Grammy's.

According to "a source close to the awards", the verdict for one of the most anticipated questions up the air has been confirmed: BTS will not be nominated for the Best New Artist at the 'Grammy Awards'. The core reason for this outcome was actually based on the guidelines of 'Recording Academy'; in order to be considered for the award, the act "must have released a minimum of five singles/tracks or one album, but no more than 30 singles/tracks or three albums in their career to date."

As we may all know, BTS is a group that has definitely released more than 30 songs, therefore making them ineligible for the award, specifically. However, despite the circumstances, 'Forbes' has suggested that their other achievements, such as the record-breaking 'Billboard' ranks, for example, were possible due to their over-30-track gifts, which were meant for their fan base ARMY.

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Izzie2019 12 days ago 22
12 days ago

I am sorry but grammys isnt based on popularity but on music quality. As much I like bts and kpop, there are a lot of artits that make better music. Bts are Giants worldwide and very talented, but there plenty of other artits worldwide that are on another level when it comes to music production.

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JungkookxYonghwa 12 days ago 1
12 days ago

Taste is subjective, Petunia. Wild, I know

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Biggiecheese_18 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Quality isn't subjective

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youcangoeatshit 12 days ago 6
12 days ago

But have you ever realised that American music has probably the lowest standards while being popular? Lol

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Biggiecheese_18 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Well this isn't totally true, it's rarely the most talented who win this award

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FragleDagle 12 days ago 5
12 days ago

How the fuck do you get nominated for "Best New Artist" when your debut was in 2013? Come people, think about that one for a second.

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unseen 12 days ago 1
12 days ago

It doesn't have to do with the time, but with the number of albums and singles released, I've seen artists who have been nomineed in this category yet they debuted like 7 or 8 years before.

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FragleDagle 11 days ago 0
11 days ago

Again, that means nothing for BTS, and to be upset they can’t be nominated for a “Best New Artist” award is first world problems

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Rainbow_Pearls 12 days ago 2
12 days ago

you should know facts before commenting and making your self look fool

the US is diffrent from korea the nominees for best new artists are the one who became famous latelly for exemple carbi b dua lipa are a lots more nominated for best new artists this year but both carbi b and dua lipa debuted in 20015

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teleri 13 days ago 27
13 days ago

The Grammys go to insane lengths to make sure NO 'boy bands' ever show up. https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/12/06/boy-bands-...

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/grammys/80...
One Direction, New Kids on the Block, N'Sync, Backstreet Boys - even Bieber - NONE of them ever won at the Grammy's, and they got very few nominations. One Direction got NO Grammy nominations even!!! That's just insane.
So of course this 'upstart' foreign KPop group won't easily get one LOL No matter how much they deserve it :(

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Indri_hapsari 13 days ago 13
13 days ago

Grammy doesnt really like glamour musics like edm or dance music, even if they pick them , it has to be the music that really really has such a huge impact like despacito or zedd clarity...from what i see grammy likes classy things..bts dont have that so far..bts 's song r good but their music r quite mainstream to get a grammy..i mean if u compare their music with TS, ed sheeran, adele or bruno🙄😏lets just wait next year , but i doubt it tho...bts also got AMA for best fans not their music...if there is a kind of nomination like that in grammy, they might win it

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teleri 12 days ago 3
12 days ago

The Grammys certainly pick a lot of totally non-classy persons. There's a history of discrimination against boy bands, or groups - it goes back quite a long way, to days when it wasn't 'boy groups' but 'teen music' being dissed. The Beatles LOL got lots of flack from 'serious' musical critics back in the 60s. It's nothing new. There are genres of music that every generation has decided are not 'real music', just as there's literature that's considered 'trash' or 'not serious', etc. BTS right now are being lumped in with a genre considered 'manufactured' and therefore not worthy of serious consideration, despite their talent and total worth as musicians. It's sad.

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MK_21 12 days ago 8
12 days ago

If you're going to criticize people, at least use proper grammar and punctuation. It'll increase the validity of your critique and show some form of intelligence. I'm not saying this as an ARMY, I'm saying it as a high school student.

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ase 12 days ago 1
12 days ago

i thought grammy has lost their credibility decades ago. but then BTS is such an awesome group, better than those you have listed above so in some way, i still hope they will win it regardless.

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teleri 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

I agree wholeheartedly :D

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shy_kpop_girl 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

It's ok. The grammys are snobs and I gave up on them years ago.

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Crashingshores 12 days ago 1
12 days ago

To be honest, I think it would be an insult to them to win Best New Artist since they've been around and been making music for a while that's gotten acclaim. Maybe some other award.

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DelightGalaxy 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

its differnent with grammy nom. you should def look that up.

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ratmonster 12 days ago 1
12 days ago

Even if they were eligible they wouldn’t be nominated since the grammys is snobby and doesn’t like boy groups. But come on... BTS is not a new artist anyway. They’re 5 years strong

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Rainbow_Pearls 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

in US best new artists are the one who raise to fame and not who debuted for exemple carbi b is nominated for new artists this year even thou she debuted in 2015

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bangeryun94 12 days ago 17
12 days ago

I Netz losing their shit again because they couldn't convince the Granny's (yes that's intentional) that BTS is a rookie group in the US. The Granny's are just shout outs to the dross that's played for 5 years on radio.

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kizaru_hijin 12 days ago 16
12 days ago

yes, the jealous racist bigblueagain knows these things! still getting jealous at kpop getting so big, that theyre at least even mentioned with the grammys...

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bangeryun94 11 days ago 0
11 days ago

Blah blah, blah blah blah

Blah blah blah blahblahblah

YAK!

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bangeryun94 11 days ago 14
11 days ago

Mommy, mommy, mum, mama, mama, mum, mother, momma, mommy, mom, mother, mom, mom, MOM!

YAK

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SongKaixi 12 days ago 4
12 days ago

Honestly I agree with their reasons. However, this hasn't stopped them in the past when awarding white western artists this award. I will be more than happy to support their reasoning as long as they hold the other artists in this category to the same standards.

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hiroonakamura 12 days ago 3
12 days ago

which white western artists got Best New Artist despite having released 3 albums or 30 songs?

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SongKaixi 12 days ago 2
12 days ago

I think a few years ago Meghan Trainor was controversial. She actually had 3 independent albums that had already been released before she released the album with All About that Bass. The first two albums aloned reached over 30 songs. They still gave her the award though. Not sure, but I'm relatively sure if you counted those independent albums and her track list up to that point in 2015. She would probably have over the amount of releases that BTS currently has.

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JungkookxYonghwa 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Lol Big Hit knows, hence why they didn't even send a submission for that

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edurance 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Can we stop acting like BTS' music is the best in Kpop industry?

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hohliu 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

If Grammy does not want you. go somewhere else. Grammy is really not as prestigious as before.

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Blackie123 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Backstreet Boys didn’t even win a grammy when they’ve sold more than 140million albums. They have done thousands of concerts and shows for the last 5 years and still active to date. Their songs are timeless

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Fan_from_India 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Well there is a history that Grammy's doesn't like boygroups.....so that ends the discussion

The onus lies on BTS's hands now....to continue making awesome music and literally create some honest, great and authentic music where Grammy comes knocking on their door. Make them bend to their own will. This will take some time but it is possible. Forget "New Artist" why not target the "Top Honors" instead?

Dream big lads, run after it and make this come true

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Luxorris 12 days ago 22
12 days ago

First thing - Grammy focuses on American artists, if not American then English speaking.

2nd thing - Grammy is an award for musical excellence. There's nothing excellance about BTS, it's overproduced fusion of EDM, electric, rap, pop, r&b... and their song's are getting old after new comeback. Their best song (title) to date is ''RUN'' which is I THINK least popular title song, even among their fans. Soooo....

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neel_raj 12 days ago 9
12 days ago

lmao have you only been listening to their title tracks? their recent albums have amazing songs i.e. 13430, singularity, the truth untold, outro: her & tear, all the trivias, and even songs such as anpanman and airplane pt2 where they experimented with genres mostly foreign to them

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bangeryun94 12 days ago 2
12 days ago

And their older albums have even better music

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Impala 12 days ago 5
12 days ago

I guess you missed the part where I said I knew them well.. they've a hand full of good songs, mostly are not. they've always been a very average kpop group. I don't care about popularity and sales.

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bangeryun94 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Really? So those British artists and Hispanic artists are somehow *American*?

Ed Sheeran is American?

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Rainbow_Pearls 12 days ago 3
12 days ago

honey profissional musicians from the recording academy analyse bts album tear and give it 7/10 and just so you know a lots of western big name don't even get that much

second edd sheereen the genius producer and amazing singer say it's a cool album

khalid one of the popular great r&b singer tweet he can't stop listening to serendipity

drake main producer say he's impress by tear 13430 and daeng and he said he want to collaborate

kendrick laram producer went to bts concert and said tear was one of the best song that he heard this year and that the performence was so lit

jimmy corden said he's a big fan fan serendipity

sia dua lipa taylor swift and katy perry add fake love to their spotify playlist

bebe rexa said she like fake love

aston manhaton said he like dna

and a lots more

so bi+ches like you who know nothing about music can shut up and fuck off

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shy_kpop_girl 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

My overall thoughts about BTS and The Grammy's: I'm a big BTS fan and supporter. And I know Yoongi has mentioned he would like The Grammy's to be one of their next steps. Though, I'm not sure if he meant being nominated, winning or just performing there like they were invited to do last year the AMAs. Whatever happens, if they get included at The Grammy's this time around, I'll be happy for them. But I don't hold that much care about The Grammy's - it's so political and honestly, most of the artists that get the big awards and nomination are really not to my liking anyway. BTS will move on and continue to make the music they love regardless of whether or not they go to The Grammy's in whatever capacity. The Grammy's is not the end all and be all of good music in my honest opinion. I would be happy enough if they just got to perform there but then I think back of the AWFUL camera work at the AMAs and the even more horrific camera work at The Billboards and I think... meh. Whatever. Still if this makes BTS happy I would be happy for them. I think they just enjoy performing and to do it in a place where so many artists they've grew up listening to would just be something they would enjoy doing so the more power to them if it becomes reality. In the mean time, they are too busy in the midst of their world tour and prepping for the upcoming Asian awards so - I'm just hoping they get SOME down time! :) Peace everyone!

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_Jarhon 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Wait wtf?


Who were the morons thinking BTS would ever qualify for a ROOKIE award. They've been in the industry for ages.


Or are army yet again so delulu that if your group debuts 2013, they demand a rookie award 2018?

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sachimi 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

This isn't about the content, but the article itself. It's very hard to understand some of what is being said because the sentences are just completely fucked. Please write with some manner of coherency or not at all. This isn't ONLY a problem with one author, but with almost every article posted. Take it as feedback and get your shit together, AKP.


Examples, so you will hopefully realise how utterly awful most of the articles are here. Even a basic high school education should allow a person to write with a higher quality.


"As we may all know, BTS is a group that has definitely released more than 30 songs, therefore making them ineligible for the award, specifically." - Why was "specifically" added at the end? It doesn't add anything to the meaning of the sentence at all. It's extraneous.

"However, despite the circumstances, 'Forbes' has suggested that their other achievements, such as the record-breaking ' Billboard' ranks, for example, were possible due to their over-30-track gifts, which were meant for their fan base ARMY."
Just what the fuck were you smoking when you wrote this? It's an absolute mess.
First, you already used "such as", so the use of "for example" is redundant and unnecessary.
Second, what the hell does "their over-30-track gifts" mean? What gifts? The Billboard ranking wasn't a "gift", and has nothing at all to do with having released more than 30 tracks. The Grammy requirements have nothing in common with and are completely independent from the Billboard rankings. Why did you conflate the two? The meaning of the sentence as it stands is, "(Despite not qualifying for that Grammy nomination), Forbes suggested that their other achievements were possible due to gifts meant for their fanbase ARMY." Which brings me to the last point...
Third, what in the absolute fuck does "which were meant for their fan base ARMY" have to do with the rest of the sentence in any way? It doesn't make any sense in context, nor does it make sense grammatically ( with the rest of the sentence ).


An objectively superior version of this would be as follows:

"Since BTS has released more than 30 tracks over their career thus far, they are ineligible for the "Best New Artist" Grammy nomination. However, Forbes suggested that their other achievements were possible specifically because of those 30-plus releases, such as the record-breaking Billboard rankings and the AMA wins. Those achievements were thanks in part to their fanbase, the dedicated ARMY around the world who help expose their music to the public."


See the difference? You're fucking welcome.

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mrcloris 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

EN MI PUEBLO, ESO SE LLAMA, "XENOFOBIA" CON TODAS SUS LETRAS,,, !!

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xBTSxARMYx 8 days ago 0
8 days ago

I don't think it is really fair. In my opinion, artists that are nominated for catergories like that have more than 30, but are still nominated because they haven't released more than the allowed amount of albums. Even though BTS isn't new in Korea, it is new in the US. So technically, they still should be eligible for the award.

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AyaniELF 8 days ago 0
8 days ago

If you don't know how American award shows work, don't comment. BTS have been out for 5 years, they are nowhere near being new. Cardi B's song was nominated because each award show is representative of the previous year up until a certain time the following year. If an award show is hosted in September, artists have until July to be able to be eligible for it. If an award show is hosted in January, eligibility usually ends before November. It's a panel of judges that decide.

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myma 11 days ago 0
11 days ago

Because they are not new.

Next question!

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Kosmo_Lap 11 days ago 0
11 days ago

Award shows are dumb. Just like the ARMY.

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nctlty 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Bts should never be even invited to a grammy it. Grammy's are for ARTISTS you hear me? ARTISTS

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eager_beaver 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Weird that to be nominated for the rookie award, one "must have released a minimum of five singles/tracks or one album". So in other words a rookie artist must not be a complete rookie. Getting to the point of releasing five singles might take some time for an artist, meaning that once they do get nominated for the rookie award, they might have been in the business for some time already.

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yydnas 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

okay

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Bule_Ciel 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

What the flim flam are they wearing who thought this was a good idea

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DelightGalaxy 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

why every one is talking about discrimination? bts released too many albums and song in 2018 thats the reason. To be nominated as a new artist you have to have release only one album but bts had 3 already. 1 jap and 2 korean. Its ok tho they probably going to be nom to other categories. BH already submitted them in other categ. but in my opinion they are going to be nom in only 2 categ tho. its pretty much fair and square. win or not this is a huge honor.

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unibias 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

fuck the grammys ! just another award show. lets tear them up on social media.

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jess_null 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

i dont think thy deserverd or not. Im feel honor if bts attend grammy, just atend.

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smfhlmfao 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Why are people disliking this post lmfao?

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jay_t 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Naahh.. bye GRAMMY!....since they played The Carter last year by giving Jay Z 8 nominations and didn't win any. They only used them to make them coming to the show for RATING!

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Marybis 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

How about best pop duo/group?

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walkertexasrange 12 days ago 2
12 days ago

Lot of artist boycott the Grammys.

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2fat 12 days ago 1
12 days ago

Only the ones that don't get nominated.

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walkertexasrange 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

Lololol got’em! You get an upvote my lord.

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Sehunicron 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

lol I dont want to live in a world where a group with music as bad and unartistic as BTS could get a grammy

glad they dont even qualify

they think they're such "artists" but to me, a real artist, they're just a bunch of clowns

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WhippedForCookie 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

I just wonder why you care for Grammys this much. That award show lost its's prestige years ago.

And beside that, what's the reason BTS should get any award at Grammys anyway? Just curious.

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krell 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

(Trolling) ... HARA (ex-KARA Group) should have gotten a GRAMMY nomination! ... ;)
HARA has LIVED her "WILD" song! -->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXumypStw2Y

HARA ; "WILD" (song) ; MV Release ; 2018.08.24

https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/hara-kara-photos-slideshows-mvs.57563/

HARA ; Photos ; Slideshows ; MVs

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krell 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

What matters to BTS Group, is NOT these 'Awards' so much. More important, is their general SALES, and selling out stadiums with their Live Concerts. If anything, NOT winning for BTS Group, helps to 'mobilize' their ARMY Fans to 'spread the word' about the 'Global Conspiracy' to 'undermine' BTS Group! ... ;)

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krell 12 days ago 0
12 days ago

(Trolling) ... Everyone 'knows' that BTS Group is the *MILLI VANILLI* of K-pop Music! ... ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milli_Vanilli

HWAITING for the TRUTH about BTS Group !!! ... ;)

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MunchieMinx 12 days ago 2
12 days ago

NO! Just NO! I'm sorry there are about a MILLION more music artists who deserve and have worked their BUTTS off who haven't got a Grammy. To give one to BTS, would be such a HUGE slap in the faces of so many talents that earned it and remain underappreciated (and don't even let me get started on all the artists from eras when the Grammies was racist AF and never recognized them (and had the audacity to do things like awarded one to ELVIS with his song thieving self). The Grammy's already get accused of being a freaking "popularity" contest. If they do something so unbelievably nuts as to award one to BTS over so many other hugely more talented world musicians (Korean or otherwise) then they need to just stop even bothering to have such a fake ceremony at all anymore.

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neel_raj 12 days ago 1
12 days ago

What? Where have you been living, under a rock? BTS works their asses off. They've been working their godamn asses of SINCE debut and they DEFINITELY earn a Grammy's. They've already produced two albums this year plus multiple MVs along with RM and Jhope's mix tapes taking charts. It wouldn't be a huge slap to the fact of artists who are under appreciated but rather an AMAZING thing.

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MunchieMinx 11 days ago 0
11 days ago

No I been living in a place called reality--you should try it sometime. First of all there are literally HUNDREDS of other artists who have been over looked at the Grammies due to the color of their skin, poor promotion or just for simply not having had their company "pay" enough for them to be noticed in the first place. Artists who sang LIVE long before BTS, wrote their melodies and songs without any ghost writers and without the benefit of the overwhelming amount digital production tech your precious BTS enjoy today. Not only are BTS not anywhere near that level but there is about hundred OTHER talented Korean musicians (both popular and indie) who deserve the honor long before BTS should even be allowed to sniff in the general direction of a Grammy. There is nothing "amazing" about what BTS does, they are a Korean POP band (and frankly not even the most "innovative" out the bunches that South Korea has churned out over the years). It's fine to enjoy their tunes if that is your "thing", but are they "Grammy" deserving? Absolutely not. Furthermore, they don't even qualify under the guidelines of a "new artist" (as the honor is reserved for those whose notable popularity HAS been in the same year as they first stepped onto to the music scene) so it's a mote point.

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