Winter and Karina is dumb rude uneducated fools dominant manipulative controlling cheap bitches slut prostitutes, Winter is animal abuser and bossy, Karina is dumb stupid slutty hoe leader, coward too, i felt that Winter is the leader cause she was so bossy, Karina and Winter is the bad luck bringer to aespa, aespa keeps having controversies because of them, winter and karina, sm should throw out them from aespa, or sm should add new members, i felt like wanna slap hard karina and winter, but for real, i really wanna slap winter face, so childish and bossy winter is.