winter and karina is dumb rude uneducated fools, stupid dominant manipulative controlling, and also sluts prostitutes, cheap bitches, winter and karina is two pyschopaths that bring bad luck omen to aespa, felt pity on Giselle and Ningning for being in the same group with this two pyschopaths. hope sm will add new members or throw out karina and winter from aespa. camt stand looking at winter amd karina, felt really wanna slap hard karina and of course winter especially, winter is really bossy. yucks.