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Posted by yckim124 AKP STAFF 28 days ago

Simon Wiesenthal Center under fire for denouncing BTS with 'inaccurate information'

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Fans are angry at the Simon Wiesenthal Center for denouncing BTS with "inaccurate information." 

On November 11, the Jewish human rights organization published an article regarding BTS' recent shirt controversy and their "mockery" of the Holocaust. 

It's claimed a member of BTS wore a t-shirt mocking the victims of the atomic bomb in Japan. The group also supposedly mocked the Holocaust by waving flags that are similar to the Nazi flags and wearing a hat with the Nazi SS death logo in a photo shoot. 






The article claimed that BTS owe an apology to Japan and victims of Nazism for "mocking the past."

Many fans are angry at the article, which was written with little to no research. Under the link to the article, Tamar Herman, a K-pop columnist for Billboard, tweeted, "You need to reasses this statement as it dangerously conflates and minimizes several geopolitical and ideological issues, and gives no background or context whatsoever to your egregious claims. This is a damning and dangerous statement you have made."


Fans also pointed out the controversial t-shirt simply celebrates South Korea's liberation from Japan, and does not intend to mock the victims of the atomic bomb. 




Meanwhile, last week, BTS' appearance on TV Asahi's 'Music Station' got canceled due to Jimin's t-shirt
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annabts 27 days ago 22
27 days ago

the holocaust memorial photoshoot was definitely not appropriate, but other than that I don’t think they really mocked anything or anyone

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botmy 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

army already called out BH for that back in 2015

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BBnaruto 27 days ago 4
27 days ago

How do you explain the Nazi symbol on the hat? It's not just the swastika, it's the full Nazi eagle logo.


Each thing individually can be explained. But together - BTS and BIg Hit are some ignorant asses. Pick up a history book already!

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casualunicorn 27 days ago 12
27 days ago

that memorial is an abstract art installation. people often spend time there, sit around on the blocks, eat, take pictures. from what i understand they legit didn’t know it was such a big deal of a place and if they saw people being so casual there I can understand why they wouldn’t.

and given that they pulled the plug on the shoot after the backlash tells me that there was no bad intention

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Sorrybae39 27 days ago 13
27 days ago

Simon wants mediaplay?? He fell for fake news quickly. How can BTS be pro Nazi when the anti Koreans Japanese right wingers who are allied with the Nazis in WW2 are hating on them because one member wore his country's liberation day t-shirt. The Japanese don't know their own history. They are confusing their narrative.

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BBnaruto 27 days ago 5
27 days ago

this is an organization, not a person. The man for whom the center is named is dead. So no, 'he Simon', does not want media play. Nor does the human rights center want it.


I defended the independence T-shirt. But how the heck do you take a commercial photoshoot at a memorial to genocide? Or wear a full Nazi Eagle Swastika? It's a pattern of ignorance that deserves to be called out, especially when BTS are catering to young kids around the world.


Pick up a history book already!

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Thank you. Nobody thinks BTS are Nazis but they went to speak at the UN and yet their fans don't see a problem with Jimin sporting a mushroom cloud on his shirt and calling it "liberation". I think it's precious. I love it because I have not gotten over the fact that they dragged Steven Yeun when he was in Korean promoting his movie for liking a friend's picture on instagram. How many times have I seen Koreans suggest that people need to read up on their history. This is what happens when your xenophobia comes back to bite you.

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Antigone 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

It was a pictorial for Ceci magazine who already apolo

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Sorrybae39 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

Weaboo...majority of BTS fans are way over 20.

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2fat 27 days ago 3
27 days ago

Simon wants media play? Is that what you said? Are you that freaking stupid?

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ultwinnerstan 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

wow...you're a fucking moron i have no other words

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Rainbow_Pearls 28 days ago 2
28 days ago

THE FUNNY THINGS IS THIS MEN IS A BIG SUPPORTER OF ISRAEIL WHO HAVE MADE UNCOUNTING MASACRE IN PALESTINE

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StrongPower_BTS 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I have to laugh with your comparison

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ultwinnerstan 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

is that supposed to make the holocaust less awful?

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MbaG007 27 days ago 12
27 days ago

Nothing brought up here hasn't already been called out by armys FIRST.


armys were the FIRST people to inform BigHit about the memorial not being appropriate to take concept pictures.

We did it so swiftly that Bighit hadn't even uploaded all the pictures before they deleted them all.

armys were the FIRST to inform Ceci about the insignia on the hat, (the magazine provided the clothes for the photoshoot). The item belonged to one of the stylists they hired and they apologised for it.



These far-right Japanese think they're slick trying to brand BTS as Nazis, while most of them are nazi-sympathisers themselves.

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Anpanman 27 days ago 11
27 days ago

The thing about that is that BigHit was always quick to react to fans' concerns. But now they're remaining silent while ignoring the issue that's getting bigger and bigger.

As for the T-shirt itself, not only japanese people are upset with Jimin for that and you know it. Actually every sane person wouldn't consider a picture of the bombing that killed thousands of people and ruined their health for generations a picture appropriate for celebration, and right wing japanese have nothing to do with that

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Sorrybae39 27 days ago 7
27 days ago

Japanese right wingers don't care about the dead. They don't want to be reminded how they lost the war especially by S Korea which was a former colony. Their soldiers killed more than 14 million people in East Asia and SEA. What is 200k more dead? Do you think they care about loss of human lives or the loss of face? It's all about hurt pride and superiority. Why did the US limit Japan's military as part of their surrender agreement? They probably suspect the potential for war mongering.

As you can see Japan is still in denial about their war history. They have not learnt their lesson well.

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MbaG007 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

Do you really think it's on there to celebrate people dying when the 22k Koreans brought to Hiroshima and Nagasaki as slaves also perished to the bomb???

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bright_light 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

I guess now is the time for everyone to come after bts, when their down and having a hsrd time. I can't believe some people think they were mocking Japan or the Holocaust, that's not the kind of people they are. This is getting really out of hand, i don't know what to say anymore, love you bts, stay strong your not alone

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I don't think they were mocking anyone. I think they are subject to the same kind of xenophobia that a lot of South Koreans have about Japan. It's unfortunate because this will not get them invited to the UN again. Yes, they need to apologize and see the error of their ways. If Steven Yuen had to apologize for liking a picture on instagram that had a rising sun flag in it then, yes, BTS needs to apologize for the nazi regalia and the mushroom cloud. This is what happens when you practice xenophobia. I comes back and haunts you or it starts another war.

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_Jarhon 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

90% of these morons are addressing the person simon wiesenthal on twitter :D It's a fucking center. A pro jewish organization, not some random ass dude...

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Koralee87 27 days ago 3
27 days ago

Even the most die-hard ARMY should stop and think here. Would you personally wear:


A t-shirt depicting the bombing of hundreds of thousands?

A hat with a Nazi SS eagle logo?

And take album photos at a genocide memorial?



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Kurapikaaa 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

They idolise those boys. in their minds , those boys can do no wrongs. Accepting that their idols can do wrong would shatter their mind made fantasy. Many of them also secretly believe that they have a chance at marrying their idol one day. They are not being rational.

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shy_kpop_girl 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

If I grew up where the shirt was common ground for my country's liberation yes probably... at a young age and not aware.


Find me an HD of that photoshoot for me to zoom in (not cropped because there's no proof the crop is not edited) and not blurry. Even still it was a time where they were rookies. Subculture of kpop - idols just learn to not say no.


That memorial place was an art installment where many people go to for leisure. They didn't realize the implications.


Look... it's all unfortunate this is all happening but none of these occurances are recent.


It's really not about BTS and ARMY. Kpop idols are over worked. Telling them to pick up a history book is assuming they have the time or live a leisurely life. The industry itself needs to smarten up. Most times idols are the victims to slave contracts and lack of freedom.


I'm tired of fan-wars getting into all this. I'm tired so many articles are digging this info up from the past but not mentioning they are from the past. So many people think Jimin wore that shirt to Japan! RECENTLY!


There is a political move to bring BTS through the gutter here. They are mere scapegoats.

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_Jarhon 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Image if these girls/women read court rulings how their oppa beat a woman and is a drunk driver and STILL stay as a loyal fan twisting anything to "oppa is innocent"... do you think they care about relatively victim-less crime of their idols just being ignorant.

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BBnaruto 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I had no idea BTS did a photoshoot at the German Holocaust memorial?! Like wow, what were they even thinking? Plus it's not just a swastika on the hat - it's the full 3rd Reich symbol with eagle and all.


I honestly thought this was the silliest thing at first, and was completely prepared to ridicule the Wiesenthal Center. But they didn't make up the pictures. Wow

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Not_interested 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Shit it's becoming more messy.

Ok shirt has a bomb picture but was meant to be Korean liberation day celebration,taken.

Fashion pictorial at Holocaust memorial, well everyone takes pic there.

Hat with Nazi symbol...This is definitely Nazi symbol not buddhism one. Buddhism swastika doesn't have bird on it. If you watch japanese anime there are also tons of Nazi uniforms and symbols.East asians don't take Nazi symbol that serious as westerners. It's like a cool fashion there.

But all those combined BTS is really looking bad. BigHit should make some statements asap.

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joshuaology 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Asians aren't stupid... we know what the symbol is and what it stands for. I wouldn't say it's a cool fashion, it's more like a meme.

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BeckywithDgdhat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

but it's true. they did wear the nazi hat and shoot at the german memorial scene. people trying to defend bts blindly when it's all facts. no matter where you're from, taking promo pictures at a war memorial site is still in bad taste. I can Maybe forgive them for not knowing too much about the significance of the nazi sign but like taking pics there. yeah no.

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shakesmilk 26 days ago 0
26 days ago

I don't understand how a photo-shoot was necessary at a memorial. Like posing in front of all those victims does not make it look cool, just because the place is suited for a place of photography. Like come on, be smart. It's a memorial for victims who died in the hands of criminals. If they didn't know where they were, it really says something about their knowledge on history.

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Luxorris 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

If only kpop fans were so quick to cancel their faves as they are quick to cancel some western star form most stupid shit.

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botmy 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

i don't remember anyone canceling rupert for his shirt...


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11_SEO_jin 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

this is really horrible , i can't believe my eyes !!!

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Cydney 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

And this is what will eventually destroy Kpop. Kpop artists are too insular. They don’t take the time to learn about the cultures they are reaching out to and this is what will destroy their goal of staying popular on a world scale. Jimin uses a derogatory term for black people, Jimin wears a problematic T shirt, RM makes fun of people’s color and tells a black interviewer that he is most proud of his white skin, and now here he is wearing a Nazi hat. I almost forgot about the Holocaust Memorial snafu. Even if these boys don’t spend enough time in school to know anything, they should at least have a quality of staff that isn’t so ignorant

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Daydreamer68154 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I think all of this stuff stems from BTS being pushed into the political world. We love BTS, BTS releases music specifically for their Japanese market. Wearing the t-shirt in support of S. Korea is a good thing and shows pride in their home however, Japan could be considered their second home and the atomic bomb was insensitive to those they have created music, performed for and capitalised. The expectations are much higher for them than any other idol group because they have been placed on the world's pedestal. Everything they say and do is now open for scrutiny and only the fans will be able to keep their spirits high when society begins to question them. Unfortunately, reporters from all around the world are discussing the BTS scandal, nothing we can do except send positive support to BTS and understand that the image is insensitive to the other BTS market and their other label in Japan.

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botmy 27 days ago 7
27 days ago

the hat: its photoshoot from Ceci magazine from 2014, the hat itself is stylist's personal piece. magazine stylist wasn't from BH team



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hiroonakamura 27 days ago 4
27 days ago

to be fair though, surely RM is intelligent enough to realize what the symbol on the hat stands for though (before putting it on)? It's not like the symbol was difficult to spot

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casualunicorn 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

everything else aside, there is no HD shot confirming that there is indeed a swastika besides the cropped out ones in the posts that claim that there is (trust me, I searched, none of the scans are that HD) which leads me to believe that they were somewhat altered. if you can find one that can be zoomed in like that with the swastika THAT clear pls show me and I don't mean this in a mean way.
there are brands that use nazi symbols without the swastika though. as there was no brand mentioned idk if we can be sure.
but seriously I don't think he had any means to protest, especially back then when they were still rookies and complaining could have meant trouble for them.

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MyEuphoria 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

True. Being rookies they wouldn't be in a position to protest. Many Asian groups, including a Japanese girl band have been criticized for wearing Nazi themed outfits for events, and I discovered that Nazi-chic as a stylistic look exists. This does not mean that Asians are Nazis, it just means there is a cultural difference due to a nation's experience, and that symbols and events can mean different things to different cultures. For Koreans, the Rising Sun flag is incredibly offensive and a horrible reminder of Japan's colonial rule - the Japanese Navy still uses the flag, but the West doesn't seem to have a big problem with it.

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botmy 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

you may take this as me blindly excusing him(which i'm really not doing), but i don't think he had any say in it and many times they get dressed by their stylists, like literally they put their clothes on for them.. benefit of the doubt?

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hiroonakamura 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

that's a valid argument.

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MyEuphoria 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I hope this is true. The internet is so full of false information. I heard that the magazine(Ceci) had apologized and that stylist should be found and come forward to clarify that it was Ceci's stylist's personal hat that he/she decided to include in the photoshoot, because this situation is becoming serious. BigHit needs to get it together and release a very carefully worded statement.

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_Jarhon 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

If you wear it, its on you.... you fucking delulu nutjob.


it's pathetic the amount of reaching you "fans" do.

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xDearLove 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

All these incidents are old, they have already been critiziced and pulled out (such as the magazine).

At worst, Koreans (including BTS, BH, everyone) are not being taught enough about the Holocaust and the tragedy it brought with it, they focus more on their issues that they had. It's a cultural ignorance, Europeans and Americans are very sensitive with the Holocaust and the bombings, same can be said with Korea and comfort women, which is an on going dispute with Japan (interestingly, i saw a video on yt were the Japanese were interviewed about these comfort women, many said that in school they were barely mentioned and had close to no knowledge about them, they AREN'T shown the importance/gravity of the issue the war brought for whatever reason). This is probably what's happening in Korea, people aren't taught that well on Nazi's, the Holocaust, the memorials, the genocide. Yes, it happened but they don't know it enough to identify symbols or feel extremely sensitive about it.


I DO NOT think BTS or BH are pro nazi in anyway. Ignorant? Yes, very. But as i stated above, it could be a cultural ignorance that's there due to the lack of teaching of the tragedy in school. It wasn't just BTS that overlooked the issue, BH did, the stylists did, the magazine editors did, the photographers did, the editors did, the publisher did, the fashion brand did, list goes on. THIS ISN'T A MISTAKE THAT BTS ALONE DID. Hopefully, Big Hit comes up with an article that sadly accepts their ignorance about the issue, that they by no means support any neo nazi, white supremacy ideology and that if others didn't teach them the events, they will teach themselves about it, they will pick up books, watch documentaries, heck visit the places and learn.

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Cydney 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I agree. Their behavior does seem toco e from a place of ignorance. They need a more qualified diverse staff if they want to stay global artists.

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hiroonakamura 27 days ago 5
27 days ago

t-shirt was no problem...but what was the explanation for there being a nazi symbol on his cap? Didn't look like the indian swastika but the german version

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casualunicorn 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

it was from the magazine's stylist's personal collection, there is no HD shot confirming that there is indeed a swastika besides the cropped out ones in the posts that claim that there is (trust me, I searched, none of the scans are that HD) which leads me to believe that they were somewhat altered.
if they weren't the hat is still someone else's property and if it is one with swastika I am assuming it is a war relic or a replica of one that the stylist has in their possession and thought it would "look cool" in the pic.
from my understanding the magazine faced backlash, apologized (and I think the stylist also did) and pulled the issue.

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2fat 27 days ago 3
27 days ago

Stop saying that shirt is no problem it's a huge problem for me as an American. I don't care about the Nazi hat as long as it doesn't come with a torch. People have been dressing up like Nazis on Halloween forever, and Nazi regalia is big in the role play BDSM crowd. Right now it is rather sensitive because in case you Asian kids haven't noticed there's a lot white supremacy going around now in Europe and the US. We'd rather not see that stuff if you aren't a white supremacist. Then yeah go ahead so decent peole can identify you. That mushroom shirt is going too far. Many of us Americans are horrified by the use of that bomb.

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Hatneb 27 days ago 5
27 days ago

Oh come on, don't judge people for simple clothes, a piece of cloth can't be a cause to judge someone's personality and intentions. The acts (their music) of BTS and their impact more than positive on the whole world go against all these acusations.

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

It's a shame but that's what people have been saying to Koreans all along about the "rising sun" flag. Seems that all of sudden, since social media made it fashionable to get your panties in a twist and you can bully someone mercilessly without having to look them in the eye, that flag has become a trigger for them. I think this whole controversy is fair. They are getting a taste of their own medicine. Stop bashing Japan for shit that took place 70 years ago. that would be a good start for Koreans.

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Mio26 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

For such clothes,you can get financial penalty in my country or something really worse. But I don't live in Korea or Japan.

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Cydney 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Don’t judge their clothing? You would only wear clothing that represents your beliefs. Your clothing choices are an extension of your personality

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Hatneb 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

What you say is really true, I just wanted to share my sincerest feelings about it. For me personally the clothes do not represent the same interest as you, but if they are worn for the wrong reasons or to offend people of course that I would be against.

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koreaboohoo 23 days ago 0
23 days ago

NO!!! under zero circumstances do you get to say if an Jewish persons article on comments is misleading or wrong as an non Jewish American with a kpop blog That photoshoot & jimins shirt plus the holocaust photoshoot they done that wasn’t mentioned isn’t ok and you don’t get to shout people up. Your “Libration” shirt is a sly dirty right wing facist excuse. Your not that proud and if you are your just racist

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Toms_K_Trash 26 days ago 0
26 days ago

This article is a good example of how easy it is to influence people, especially those with little or no education.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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NORM 26 days ago 0
26 days ago

"The group also supposedly mocked the Holocaust by waving flags that are similar to the Nazi flags"

You know they are only getting attacked cos they are popular when None of the Jews complaining are even coming after Seo Taiji -__-

Those flags resemble yes, but if it wasnt made from that symbol, its not an issue.

Cos the Nazi symbol has its roots from a way less evil source.

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merepeasant 26 days ago 0
26 days ago

I think that it’s crazy for anyone to cite reddit and twitter as its main sources. Especially in today’s climate... I went to the Simon Weisenthal Center’s page and searched for original pictures/content but failed. If anyone can provide them, feel free to message me.

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Jayden_Bradley 26 days ago 0
26 days ago

I honestly think that the shirt was not meant to offend anyone. Now the flag thing, I have no idea about, but i do know that BTS cares about people all over. And why are they just now saying something about a shirt Jimin wore over a year ago. Thsi is so stupid

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myoongi 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

all this for nothing.

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MyEuphoria 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Finally! The stylist for the photoshoot with RM has given a statement about what might have happened. Here is the link https://www.soompi.com/article/1262453wpp/stylist-....

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tarara 27 days ago 3
27 days ago

I am proud that America ended WWII. If it were not for A bombs, there could have been more casualties.

Japan had killed ten times more people than that of the A bomb victims and did not want to finish the war by attacking the US. The US had been planning to completely sweep Japan off but instead it used A bombs to finish the war. Japan should acknowledge and address that lots of innocent Koreans, who were in forced labor camps including Korea`s last prince, who was a hostage there in Hiroshima got killed.

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2fat 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

There is has always been controversy about the use of the atomic bomb. Japan would have surrendered eventually. Many people believe, including myself, that those bombs were actually meant to show China that we wouldn't be tolerating any of their communist ambitions once the war was over. Americans will never "celebrate" our victory during WW2 by celebrating the use of that bomb. We've also had to apologize and give restitution to the innocent Japanese Americans who we betrayed and locked up during that time. There is a lot of shame and regret that comes with war and there should be. We do not "celebrate" anything with a mushroom cloud.

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Fritzb 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

You ought to brush up on your own history. The use of the atomic bomb in WWII had nothing to do with Chinese communists. At the end of WWII, China was a wreck of a country that few considered significant in geopolitical calculations. The Soviet Union was another story. Truman definitely wished to counter Stalin's aggression and using "The Bomb" did just that.


To say that no one in America celebrated the A-Bombs being dropped on Japan is patently false too. My own father and his fellow soldiers, who were serving in Allied-occupied Germany at the time, celebrated plenty. They had already received their orders for re-deployment to the Pacific theater for the expected invasion of Japan. Fatalistically, they had all expected to die in that battle and when the news of the bombs came, it was like their death sentences had been overturned. Believe me, they shed no tears at all for any "poor" Japanese civilians who died. There was no controversy at all at the time.


The notion that using "The Bomb" was controversial came years later and was promoted mainly by America-hating leftists. Ironically, their freedom to express such idiotic ideas were guaranteed by the sacrifices of my father's generation.

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

You're right the use of the bomb is controversial now because first we are more woke to the fact that celebrating someone else's death, especially civilian deaths is anathema to our philosophy as a nation. It's why many Americans are in constant battle with the "war hawks" among us. Next it's a well established fact that now that many people believe that Japan had less than two weeks fight left in them as we had already pretty much bombed them back to the stone age with conventional weapons. Please stay informed because you just aren't. Here is a NYT article from 1995 questioning our reasons for using the atomic bomb. It's not a new question. Americans have been haunted by this decision for 7 decades. https://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/30/books/did-we-ne...

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lacreme 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Didn't RM wear that hat with a swastika symbol? It's frustrating that Big Hit is being silent amid these controversies. It should speak out and make clarifications or is it prioritizing BTS concerts in Japan because of money?

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ultwinnerstan 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

the article was more about nazism and that is true. as a jew im genuinely so disgusted that they filmed teasers in a holocaust memorial and bts is going to work very hard to get my respect back

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dudewhat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

can bighit do their fucking job for once and do something about this, it’s getting out of hand

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_N 27 days ago 10
27 days ago

This is very dangerous stituation not only for BTS but also for the Center. In the world where Holocaust is being denied and nazism is celebrated, we have to be very careful how we approach such claims.

I'm studying Holocaust in the depth of all of its aspects for 5 years and I read various statements of Holocaust 'deniers' and I know that such individuals don't care about evidences; exactly because of this it surprises me that the Center which deals with false accusations and evidence denial would go to such length as pointing at someone without proper research beforehand. Sure, these issues (the Holocaust memorial and the hat) should not be forgotten and they should serve as an example; they were followed by apologies and explanations and I agree that apology can hardly fix anything in this case but it is a light moment of realizing one's mistake and showing others that apology is in place and not ignoring the problem.

This problem touches me from the both sides of the conflict and I feel truly sad that such serious accusations were not substantiated by a proper research. At the same time we can't close our eyes to the fact that these things happened and they were wrong, very wrong. But really, they were mistakes of individuals, yet we draw conclusions toward the company as a whole.

I really don't intend to apologize for anyone... but this is very serious matter and dangerous as well to the society as a whole as it shows how we approach such problems and how we treat evidences and the whole concept of the assumption of innocence.

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StCatMouse 27 days ago 6
27 days ago

Sorry for the gallows humor as I know you feel very deeply about this but man, if they don't get this under control as soon as possible, BTS will be courting a very weird fanbase. Downvote away.

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_N 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I think you're right.

As the time goes, the support will grow with the same fervor as the opposition. They say that the diamond is formed under pressure but this is defenitely not the case... as the opposition grows people tend to grab any opportunity against it and it can lead to overlooking and even belittling the core problem of the issue.

This is very dangerous. We'd face the reality to what extent people are prepared to accept, forgive and forget essential issues going against the morals of the society. That's why I implied it's a good thing that they (BTS and BH) admitted their mistakes as there will be people ridiculing the essence of the problems itself in a hope for support. I agree that support and love goes through thick and thin but there are boudaries at which it should be questioned and not blindly followed.

And I absolutely don't mean to offend anyone by this but I see this as a serious matter. Thank you for referring to this, I forgot to think about it from this perspective!

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2fat 27 days ago 4
27 days ago

I think they have a very weird fanbase anyway, don't you?

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2fat 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

Here is another suggestion you can't be a Japanese hater and then promote in their country. I'm sure Korean youth think it's just fine for them to keep those old wounds alive. I've seen LOTS of Japanese bashing on Kpop sites. I've seen their xenophobia and nationalism defended many times by international fans. Now it's come back to bite them on the ass. The war was 70 years ago. Koreans face a threat everyday that they'll lose their democracy but the threat is NOT from the Japanese. It's from the Koreans living right next door. They may not be ignorant of history but their view is skewed.

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minato808 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

So what about the Nazi stuff?

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LittleSukie 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Jump on the hate bandwagon why don't you!

Is this an older photo shoot from Berlin?

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botmy 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

2015

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SongKaixi 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

So the memorial thing was wrong and the Nazi Eagle thing was also wrong, but this is all old news to bring it up again. I would also like to point out that the swatstika was originally part of Buddhist temples, but Nazi's turned the logo on it's side and used it. It wouldn't surprise me that someone not paying attention would mistake it for a Buddhist symbol. Still not cool though.

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_Jarhon 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

This is what we get now? Biased army moron writing garbage shield posts for BTS?


The article by the jewish center is spot on. They have EVERY right to be offended if they see a global star promoting Nazism with a fucking SWASTIKA hat.


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Then you couple that with their member wearing a pathetic shirt that glorifies the use of nuclear weapons.... and delulu fans are trying to whine that the jewish center is in the wrong here???



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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Yes that's about the size of it.

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surmew 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

if you know BTS then you know they are kind person. I love BTS so much their music is so good, if you want to know how BTS'S personality please read the songs lyrics. Watch vlive, bangtan bomb, BTS log, Run BTS, Bangtan GAYO, UN speech.

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BBnaruto 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

if you think you 'know' any idol....you really need to step back and consider things for a sec

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Nobody thinks BTS are mean people but Koreans need to suck it up because they do this to others all the time. Anyone that's ever looked sideways at the "rising sun" flag gets dragged into the town square and flogged. They're bullies and deserve to take their own medicine.

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Mkm 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

"claimed that BTS owe an apology to Japan"....? BTS doesn't owe any apology to Japan its the other way around japan owes an apology to korea they are still denying what they did in korea when they were in war.

I really cant believe that people even believes that anyone will design a t shirt "mocking" the victims of the atomic bomb. like who in their right mind will actually believe it, IT HAVE A DIFFERENT MEANING WAKE UP. the bomb is a sign that the war has ended, go read + he is a korean he has the right to celebrate in whatever way he wants don't expect an apology from him. japan still in denial of what happen. there are korean people who died in that atomic bomb also. can we stop really arguing over this? even people in japan agree that it is liberation day shirt

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

This is a lie.

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TrinityLane90 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

You will see the swastika symbol all over road maps of Japan marking locations of Buddhist temples because it is originally a Buddhist symbol. Not sure if Korea uses it for the same reason. I know lots of Koreans are Buddhist though.

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Newsha 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

If it's only swastika then people really can excuse all this by buddhism somehow. But if it's on military hat with this war bird and skull then it's clearly has nothing to do with buddhist religion.

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StCatMouse 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

The manji symbol differs from the one used by the Nazi as it is tilted at an angle.

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EXID_is_the_EXIT 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

So here it is people thinking that they know more about semeone elses country than actually that person

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YuraJI 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I can not tolerate something like that, who the hell gave them the opportunity to make a speech at the United Nation, they seem like some fake liars who do anything to suck money from stupid and immature kids, celebrate their independence day is one thing, but as an idol who is an influence to others kids dress something portray the bomb that killed innocents that people are suffering from illness because of this radiation until now is another thing, they glorify such inhumane acts, they first wear a Nazi hat use a flag and wear something inspired by Nazic ones and make a whole shooting in that place is disrespectful as fuck, they glorify the killing of innocent children, old and women, and jewish, when they know thatthey can influence their stupid fans like what they did buying that disrespectful t-shirt just to support their oppa, the BTS is shut down for me, they are fake persons , they re adult after all , even teenagers know about these historic inhuman acts.

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cpttsubasa 27 days ago 6
27 days ago

I wish BTS would just disappear. They are giving Kpop such a bad and undeserved image. They are a bunch of ignorant idiots, almost as bad as their toxic fandom (who are definitely like Nazis).


BTS is not paving any roads. They just cash in global money and burn all the bridges for other kpop idols afterwards. I am sick of this group and every single fan.

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botmy 27 days ago 5
27 days ago

we are sick of you too

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cpttsubasa 26 days ago 4
26 days ago

Typical for nazis. You just cant stand critical opinions and freedom of speech.

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tarara 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Japan in Nov. 2018.

How about this, Simon Wiesenthal? What are you going to say about this, Jews?


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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I don't see all of Japan marching here but yes, Nazism and white supremacy is on the rise in Europe and the US. So let's make sure that BTS gets on the bandwagon huh?

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EducationSystem 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

the world is learning not to fuck with the crazy kpop fangirls

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_Jarhon 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

The world is laughing at crazy kpop fans you mean?

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whatever101 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

as much as want to scold the center here we go, ARMY BACK IT AGAIN with the give zero fks about oppa's shirt


call it whatever you want a bomb shirt is a BOMB SHIRT, idgaf if it deals with Korea's Liberation at the end of the day there are a million BETTER shirts to wear and you DO NOT use someone else's suffering to justify your own regardless of how shity that person/country may be otherwise don't be a HYPOCRITE and attack Japan for honoring their war criminal soldiers who died too

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

I am afraid BTS have a problem. This is how overt nationalism comes back to bite you. Nobody with any class celebrates their "liberation" with a mushroom cloud. Koreans couldn't even leave Steven Yeun alone when he came to promote his movie. Sorry not sorry. The shirt is wrong.

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iluvkpop9000 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

All this shit for a shirt which had the main purpose of displaying korean independence. Ffs what is wrong with people.

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ultwinnerstan 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

you can display independence without going to japan wearing things about an atomic bomb. theres other ways that are way less disrespectful.

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Irelda_ 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

He wasn't in Japan. 😳 this was more than a year ago apparently in America

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Blue1 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Japan doesn't have the right to be offended after all the sh.t they did to Korea and China, THEY should apologize. Live Jimin's shirt, probably going to buy it as well and wear it when I'll go to Japan next February. It's time Japanese learn what they ancestors did and ask the government to properly apologize.

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

This is bullshit. Japan has every right to be offended because they lost a half a million people during those bombings. Even Americans are not proud that we used them. We Americans don't want to see Koreans wearing a shirt that celebrates the vaporizing of a quarter of a million people. Fuck that. So stop. Just stop. The shirt with the mushroom cloud takes it too far and there aren't any Japanese left alive to hold responsible. Japan paid a huge price for it's imperial ambitions.

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xSeulgi 27 days ago 4
27 days ago

"It's not a bomb shirt" dude, it literally is.

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botmy 27 days ago 3
27 days ago

it literally is shirt celebrating liberation of korea (both north and south celebrates the date), not the bomb itself or thousands of people - both japanese and korean - who died. it's a part of history, idk what are you taught in school, but the bombs ultimately ended WWII, as tragic as it is. without that there wouldn't be any liberation day for korea (japan occupied korea since 1910).

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alexasora 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

That's understandable but the media is not playing that. BH is way too quiet and now this anti-semitism card is being pulled. BH needs to make a statement to clarify all of the mess tbh.

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xSeulgi 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

It's literally a bomb shirt, that's the art on the shirt, ignoring that fact is the dumbest shit.

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whatever101 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

OK but since is it okay to walk around with an image of death and suffering and lazily add a caption next to it to justify it? i guess you have zero problem with people making Hiroshima jokes in America because they suffered too

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IMSO1977 27 days ago 4
27 days ago

This is what you call desperation....I said in 2015 that our guys were rising really fast, and in mid-2016, I said what goes up must come down. And it was scary to me, watching the entire globe jump on the bandwagon...and now we've come to late 2018, and someone wants to destroy what the guys have worked so hard to build.


How many people own that same shirt, and no one has said a word. Jimin is human and should be free to wear whatever he likes on his body....as we all do. In my country it's called Freedom of Speech. And who says Jewish people have the market cornered on suffering. I'd say get in line because everyone's got that right..they aren't anymore special or persecuted than Black people captured and slaved out by nearly everyone in the world...that includes being raped, murdered, tortures for medical advancement, free labor, you name it...and we get 1 month to celebrate our freedom from slavery...but we're still not free from persecution, in American we are still killed without reason and no one has stopped it from happening yet.


Point is all kinds of people died in the Holocaust, not just Jewish people...so they should get off it....fight me, if you want.


And let's not forget why Japan got that bomb dropped on them, they weren't faultless...so, Jimin wasn't wrong...20 million people died as a result of WWI and 21 million were wounded, and it wasn't just Jewish people.


What I'd like is for the world to stop flinching Everytime Jewish people call something or someone anti-Semitic...they don't get to corner the market on the Holocaust, last checked Blacks, Gays, etc were victims too...Jewish people are the only ones who got reparations...unfair much (check me on it)....


Bottom line it was a horrible time period for Koreans, and everyone around the world...if I wore that same t-shirt, no one would think twice....so please get off BTS/BIGHIT X Jimin of BTS back....you evil bastards.


#BTS4EVER #BTSCANTSTOPWANTSTOP #JIMINOWNSTHEWORLD it

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desikyu 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

This is so disgusting, I wish you had at least stopped after the first paragraph. Educating people about the Holocaust and Nazis does not take away from educating people on Colonialism/Slavery or any other examples of horrors in human history. It's part of the same goal.


I understand the context of the liberation t-shirt, and one can argue context about the hat and Berlin photos. But honestly, ANYONE here would be called out for wearing a Nazi eagle swastika - especially by the Simon Wiesenthal Center. That's their job.

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IMSO1977 20 days ago 0
20 days ago

I just read a lot of blah...and apparently not, because if that was so...then Nazi anything wouldn't exist today ...so go try somewhere else

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2fat 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Koreans are not just xenophobic they are also racist as fuck. You mean they can forgive the North Koreans for killing their own people and holding them hostage to their fascist ambitions for more than 60 years but the Japanese can't be forgiven for something they did almost 100 years ago. I'm sorry but I've watched Korean young people pillory people for years over that rising sun flag motif when their parents never even cared about it. Just so they can be xenophobic and butthurt over something. So they could use it against people they didn't like, Now their own xenophobia has come back to bite them on the ass. Good it's about time. Too bad it's your favorite group, but all of this nationalism is dangerous.

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IMSO1977 20 days ago 0
20 days ago

I just read some blah, blah, blah....you should've stopped before you responded to my post...it's obvious you're the rasict...are you a Nazi...ugh, get off my post you evil person

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alexasora 27 days ago 8
27 days ago

This is really, really REALLY bad news for them.


I always feared their past will come back to haunt them. And it has. This is just one particular thing that blowed up. If the media keep digging into what they said (mostly Joon) it's going to be a mess. Not only are they now being labelled as anti-semitic, anti-Japanese ... if they get labelled as stupid/ignorant comments Joon said it will get messy. The fans will still support and love them no doubt. That's not going change but the way they media views will change. They might not be invited to award shows, interviews all of that. I hope it stops here and I hope Big Hit just make a statement but in a way for the Korean public not to be triggered. It's difficult because Korea and Japan are so hostile, especially now. K-Armies and the general public in Korea here are acting as if the West getting wiff of what Japan did is helping the West know what Japan did to them but that's the thing ... the world knows what Japan did (part of it/they know they did unspeakable things in Asia) and they just brushed it under the rug. No doubt Japan is using BTS as pawns in the mess of their political situation but ... I don't know anymore.


Also, I think Armies need to be realistic here, maybe it's just me being a 24 year old I can see it in a different light. But this is really bad. We can try defend them and clarify, they have apologised but we need to remember that people don't know they apologised so we need to try inform them they have. Korea can handle scandals yeah but in the West it can get messy - especially if you trigger anti-semitism, racism or even sexism (War of Hormones lyrics).


That's just the problem with being international, you don't know what side to cater too anymore. Of course, BTS love their fans and they want to make them happy but it's more than that now. They are force. They are breaking in the Western media. I mean Steve Aoki is of Japanese origin. Imagine. A wiff of all the stuff can spread, they can be dropped out of the UN ... the UN was created AFTER World War II and you have this band that seemingly is prancing around with a shirt that has an atomic bomb on it which killed hundreds/thousands of people & there is still people affected by it today and a Nazi symbol AND they took photos in a memorial park ...


I love BTS I do but for the sake of their careers, I hope Big Hit make me a statement that calms the water in the East and the West. People will dig and dig.


I feel so sorry for Jimin, he must be beating himself up for this.


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casualunicorn 27 days ago 3
27 days ago

do you even read anything besides AKP? there are numerous articles from western media that are defending bts and slamming the japanese tv station for using bts as scapegoats.

there are statements about calls being made to SWC which are being received and the callers are being informed that the complaints are being heard and the matter (and article) will be re-assessed.

there are japanese people speaking out on japanese television against dragging bts through the mud.

people constantly try to bring up shit that they said or did in the past but here's what's interesting: it's ALWAYS from the past BEFORE they broke through in the west BEFORE they started working with unicef, BEFORE the UN speech. those people will never stop and it's pointless to try to argue with them. at this point I don't think there is anything that hasn't been brought up and paraded as "reason 68656476457 why bts members are shitty people". but guess what. people still love them. because they've grown and changed and stopped doing/saying shit without thinking.

this shirt is a non-issue that is being blown out of the proportion and very conveniently only around jimin when he's not the only one who has worn it. but i guess a less known idol wearing that shirt on a korean national television as per his stylist's instruction AND the station's approval is somehow less important than jimin wearing that shirt, which he got from a fansite as a gift, during a bh produced ONLINE EPISODE.

the shirt is not celebrating the bomb or deaths of people. it is celebrating the liberation of korea while acknowledging that the bomb was the catalyst of it. just think about how many people wear che guevara's face on their clothes, do you think his revolution did not involve deaths? stop painting jimin wearing a shirt that celebrates his country's independence as something shameful that should have stayed buried when it isn't. epecially since I don't see other famous people wearing that shirt being slammed for it at all.

the nazi symbol, I am assuming here that you mean the hat that joon wore in that one photoshoot, is NOT 100% CLEAR in any of the scans, the only HD pics I saw of it were in the posts claiming that it is indeed a swastika, no others. the page has an information on clothes that joon is wearing there, as magazines always do, and the hat is literally stated to be from the magazine's (not bh's) stylist's personal collection. from what I understand the magazine did face backlash, apologized and pulled the issue.

the german memorial is, idk if u know, a public space. it's not a protected site. it's not a cemetery. it is an abstract art installation. people go there, sit around or lay around on the blocks, eat, take pictures. people act casually there. fashion bloggers take pics there. it is very reasonable to assume that their team saw it and thought ah it's a cool place let's have a shoot here. there was no bad intention. which is why they didn't hesitate to pull the shoot from the photobook when they faced backlash and were informed about the memorial's meaning.

and before you try the "i'm an adult i don't look at this as a teenage fan" which u already tried in your comment: I am a 26 year old woman from Slovakia, which has been one of the primary targets of Nazi Germany's expansion plans. The amount of people who have been deported from here to the concentration camps is astounding. I myself am partly of Jewish descent. My country was also under Russian occupation for YEARS (and its former 'versions' throughout history were under other nations' occupation too). I know what I'm talking about when I tell you that acknowledging that "this terrible thing happened and that is nothing to celebrate but I acknowledge it as it is something that helped my country to be liberated" is nothing shameful or ignorant and it is definitely not done in a way that attacks other countries.

Jimin did nothing wrong here. BTS are not nazis and nothing they ever did can be used to paint them as such, if you aren't an idiot. Instead of "always fearing that their past would come back to haunt them" maybe try thinking about your own way of looking at things if you actually think that anything they have done/said in the past is worthy of condemnation or should stay hidden, even despite them acknowledging their mistakes, apologizing and working their hardest to not make them again.

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MyEuphoria 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

The magazine chose this theme and it was a mistake for sure on BigHit's side to okay the shoot and to have BTS participate in such a shoot. The photoshoot results were scrapped, only a few preview shots were released. BTS have grown as people and as artists since their debut and since this photoshoot (Some members were still teenagers). The info about the hat being Ceci's stylist's personal piece needs to be broadcasted big time. The theme was decided by Ceci and the stylist was from Ceci, not Bighit. This fact needs to be stressed. The magazine realized their error and apologized, and the photoshoot was scrapped, but that stylist should come forward and make a statement. I hope Bighit gets their act together and clarifies with a well-worded statement.

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Sorrybae39 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

Are u sure u are a fan? When did the band prance around with an atomic bomb shirt? It's enough that they have their country and true fans behind them. It's all they need. They will focus on their music. All this hate will make them stronger and they can express in their songs. U literally wrote an essay digging up their past..lol. Just say you hate them and go.

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Mkm 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

let's be realistic here, why would big hit make a statement or apologize? they don't need to go to japan for promotion whatsoever fans will still love them that all they need and that's what brought them till here without any help from the public or the media. the comments that are in korean news are all positive and they support bts so no way they will turn their back on them, thats why no way big hit will apologize for the shirt since they are korean to begin with.

they already apologized for all the lyrics long time ago (War of Hormones lyrics and other stuff), so if the west will get triggered let them be, bts and army didn't need them in the first place, yea maybe they wont get the same support but its ok they will still keep going on with korea backing them up (their own country), don't forget they are koreans in the first place, they don't need to please the west.

their career will still be ongoing in a good shape without the west recognition anyway.

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ALLOFTHEREAL 28 days ago 8
28 days ago

Why fans keep saying the pics are fake when I can find them on Google?????

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borahae 28 days ago 4
28 days ago

ummmmm yes, thats how you find pics, including fake ones... or did you think Google only has legit stuff and no Photoshop?

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Anpanman 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Is this how bts stans are acting now? The memorial photo is real and they've apologized for picking that location for their photoshoot

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borahae 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

did I say anything about these particular photos? do you even read bruh? I think you lost the point of every single person explaining in their replies how Google works.

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Anpanman 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

So you just commented on the state of the world and google huh, sis

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borahae 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

exactly. again, do you even read? or you just come to attack people half sentence?

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blablabla2105 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

just because you can find it in google, it doesn't mean it's legit, c'mon everybody know that, or maybe you are new to this internet thing?

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LOVEYA00 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

where in the article did they say that it's fake?

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Sorrybae39 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

Google has fake news too. There is no filter.Lol

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Sehunicron 27 days ago 6
27 days ago

he got it confused

the real truth is that bts's music is more ugly/tragic than the holocaust

post that, that'll be accurate

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pentababy 27 days ago 4
27 days ago

youre making exols look like fucking trash smh do me a favour and stop.

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Sehunicron 27 days ago 3
27 days ago

YOU are fucking trash, not me

i speak for myself not exol

but armys think exol is trash anyway no matter what *I* say

so if you have a problem about people making exol look bad address that to army who employed every smear tactic against exol that they could for the past 3 years

but thats the problem with exol, you'd rather attack me than the real enemy

you dont wanna go up against army bc youre pussies and because over half of you are sluts for bangtan sonyeonshit

youre some unloyal ass bitches

exol be the main ones buying bts records every time they drop

so many exol's contribute to bts' success

YOU make exol look bad, not me

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2fat 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

That's funny.

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northstars 27 days ago 5
27 days ago

Why would you wear a hat with a Nazi swastika on it.

The Nazis murdered millions of Jew.

Murdered thousands of Allied soldiers.

BTS is finished as a group.

Let the boycott begin!

If it wasn't for the Allied troops that destroyed the Nazis, South Koreans would be speaking German right now or be dead.

Hitler probably would have tried to exterminate them too.

And these ignorant KPOP idols wear Nazi apparel?

It is sickening!

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botmy 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

do you even history omg.. what german in korea??

they were under japanese occupation, they were forced to change their names to japanese, they were forced to speak japanese, korean people were taken to japan as forced laborers, korean women were made into comfort women (= they were sex slaves of japanese military)


about the hat you can read other posts here, bcs i can see you didn't bother

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northstars 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

No.

Lets hear your take on why he is proudly wearing a Nazi swastika with a big smile on his face.

Defend him.

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Mkm 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

LOL who will boycott bts? you? go ahead. but first go study PROPER history before talking..

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Illsick 27 days ago 5
27 days ago

BTS were mocking Japan. That shirt was meant to mean that Korean independence came and Japan was bombed with a nuke. This maliciousness disguised as national pride will continue to run amok if let unchecked

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botmy 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

thousands of koreans also died there so your argument is invalid, it would mean they are mocking deaths of their own people

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Illsick 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Thats a convienent rebuttal but it’s only used when it suits the Korean perspective. Plus in the photo shoot they used the full Nazi eagle.


But hey ignorance is bliss

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bangeryun94 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

How's this for a Korean perspective? Stay or go, we don't really care.

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2fat 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

Completely agree. The Koreans and their international apologists are terribly xenophobic when it comes to the Japanese. I've seen more Japanese bashing on Kpop sites than I've ever seen in the mainstream media. Also none of the Korean adults I know ever bother to get triggered by that rising sun flag. That's a made up controversy by the social media generation. Sure the two governments have strained relations but CHINA is the driving force behind most strained relations in Asia now, not Japan. They know little about history and even less about modern politics and yet......they seem to think they can walk around and celebrate the annihilation of a 1/4 million people. It's sickening to me and this is the shit that causes wars.

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Illsick 26 days ago 0
26 days ago

And what’s worse is this a generational cancer. This just keeps being put in a younger generations head.

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Anpanman 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

BTS cray fans think they know more about the history that the world itself. That's a whole new level of oppadidn'tmeanit lmao

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yerewenseuljoy 27 days ago 14
27 days ago

thank god bigshit is finally getting what they deserve. they swept every wrong thing they did under the rug and likes to pretend to be innocent. so sick of that two faced company.

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Mkm 27 days ago 2
27 days ago

what "swept every wrong thing did under the rug" what did they do? kill someone? why are you exaggerating? perhaps are you jealous of bts and bighit?

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yerewenseuljoy 25 days ago 1
25 days ago

holocaust photoshoot

nazi accessory

racist slur/n-word in korean

the n-word

glorifying the Japanese bombing yet had the audacity to promote there.

they never once apologized. so i suggest you brush up on some info before barking.

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Mkm 25 days ago 0
25 days ago

I wish that YOU will gather the right info before barking tho. 1st the photoshoot wasn't in their power to do anything they were rookies back then in 2014 and since it was the magazine stylist fault, still the stylist came forward back then and apologized and yet again yesterday apologized once more and said it clearly wasn't bts fault. 2 racist, n word? I remember clearly he apologized and he educated himself even changed fake love lyrics (word "i" in korean) when they preformed on billboard, (and what did u expect of him who was young and learned english watching american TV shows that keep saying n word casually of course he wouldn't know back then). 3 they didn't "glorify the Japanese bombing " GO READ THE PURPOSE OF THE SHIRT THEN COME BACK TO ARGUE ON THIS MATTER because am getting tired of explaining this issue get over it.

THEY ALREADY APOLOGIZED TO THE VICTIMS.

since u r not a fan of them I wish you would stop getting ur nose in their business where it doesn't belong after all you don't know them and you don't have the CORRECT information, just hate.

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Mhizdarhmey 27 days ago 7
27 days ago

If you don't know what to say or you are dyinh to talk badly why not move to red velvet's post? Must you type wat your relaxer brain tells you to? I don't get why people don't use their senses.. Tch!

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Sorrybae39 27 days ago 1
27 days ago

SM stan? Wrong article.

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yerewenseuljoy 25 days ago 0
25 days ago

look whos barking. just go look at momoland's music videos. your fandom is basically telling them to go kill themselves. why dont you mind your own business?

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bangeryun94 27 days ago 0
27 days ago

LMAO!

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