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The late Choi Jin Sil's daughter expresses anger and hurt over Swings' lyrics about her deceased mother

By jennywill   Tuesday, March 28, 2017   105,470   1,187   0



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The late Choi Jin Sil's daughter Choi Jun Hee expressed her pain and hurt at Swings' rap lyrics.

Actress Choi Jin Sil had committed suicide in 2008, leaving behind her young son Hwan Hee and daughter Jun Hee. The tragedy had shaken Korea, and it became even worse when her brother also committed suicide in 2010. However, in 2010, Swings had featured in a track by rapper BIZNIZ titled "The Uncomfortable Truth". Truth is 'jin-shil' In Korean, and Swings had rapped, "The uncomfortable truth (jinshil)? You guys are Hwan Hee and Jun Hee. There's no truth (jinshil), just you guys."

The lyrics had been met with incredible criticism, with listeners demanding to know if Swings was in his right mind to use such a tragedy in his rap and even disrespect the family and children. Swings had apologized for the usage and said it was not his meaning to disrespect or hurt the family, and faulted himself for not fully putting himself in the family's position.

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However, the song suddenly came back into focus on SNS lately. When Choi Jun Hee saw the lyrics on Facebook as well as the controversy, she commented on it angrily, saying, "I'm sorry, and I know it's wrong to bring up the past, but the people that have to live with the hurt are me and my brother. I honestly can't understand how people can say it's all in the past. I don't watch 'School Rapper' because of Swings, and I don't watch most rap-related things. I get so mad whenever I see him, and in his apology he said he didn't know it would be painful. Back then, I didn't know because I was young, but if I think about it now, isn't it just ridiculous from my point of view and my family's point of view? Even if it's in the past, the anger and pain remain the same. If you ask why I'm still mad, it must be because you've never thought from my point of view, right?"

Netizens are furious at the lyrics and are demanding that Swings step down from all shows, even if it's something that happened in the past.

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Sunnn Monday, May 29, 2017

Damn, my heart goes out to both Junhee and Hwanhee for having to put up with this. No matter how disputed it gets when figuring out a punishment for Swings, it's just a no-brainer that the children left behind will suffer the most regardless. I'm on their side.

Lixxz Wednesday, March 29, 2017

I don't get it. The same people who are here saying the criticism is too harsh and he should not be punished because "it happened seven years ago" are the same people who think it was okay to kick Bom off Roommate and lock her in a dungeon for an issue that happened and for which she was cleared four years prior.So basically, according to akp members, singing about someone's suicide and mentioning the victims' name is less reprehensible than ignorantly shipping medicine. Your priorites and reasoning skills are WACK. This guy's career should have ended when he released the song, tbh, but since he's still around, at the very least he sjpuls make a public statement asking fans and such to NOT bring up the song on social media, out of respect for the people he hurt.

seochulgoo Lixxz Wednesday, March 29, 2017

The same akp members that were defending that bully guy that made his colleague masturbate in front of others and fight like a Pokemon... bunch of hypocritical people

seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Yeah, Swings was wrong. But I don't get why people here defend someone who made his colleague masturbate in front of others, saying that it's all in the past, but you all bury someone who made a grave mistake (cruel, yes, but still a mistake) for reasons we don't know.

lostseouls seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

first of all, the "people" you're referring to are brainless. second, you're no different from the "people" you're referring to. You're literally defending someone who wrote and made money off of someone's misery. third, who in their right minds would write lyrics about someone's suicide? Worse, he said it mockingly and he even dropped names. lastly, put yourself in the kids' shoes. Not only do they have to deal with the public knowing their mother's suicide, they also have to deal with this brainless prick who has nothing to do with them but wrote completely unnecessary lyrics about their situation. IDC IF HE SAID SORRY IT HAS BEEN SEVEN YEARS AND THIS IS THE ONLY TIME HE FELT SORRY ABOUT IT? yeah right, sis.

iisstf28 seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

I'm sorry?? Did you say mistake?? Did he mispronounce his lyrics and ended up saying the names of those 7 and 9 year old kids that lost their mother in such a cruel way and their uncle ,in the same way, recently?? Did he thought that the kids would find it funny and witty to hear that ugly reminder that his mother is no longer with them? That its just them now?? How is that a mistake? How can a grown ass man do that "mistake"?

seochulgoo lostseouls Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Calm down, you won't earn anything from being mad. I'm not defending him. I just said before that he has some mental illnesses. I'm just talking about other people, if you are not part of them, good, bye

seochulgoo iisstf28 Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Sorry, English is not my first language. I guess I used the wrong word.

iisstf28 seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Okay... let's just be careful with our words....

bangeryun94 lostseouls Thursday, March 30, 2017

How do you know he said it mockingly? That's YOU making assumptions. HE was calling out the hypocrites and how they look at mental illness and suicide. And that is simething he's quite familiar with. The only reason he's getting shit is because people don't like him for his controversial life which deals with mental illness.

seochulgoo bangeryun94 Thursday, March 30, 2017

Yeahhhh finally someone who sees what I'm seeing

Jaerimmie Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Koreans are so unyielding, truly a nation of people that doesn't forgive anything and doesn't forget. One of their biggest flaws.

lostseouls Jaerimmie Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Their mother committed suicide. Their uncle committed suicide. Their father committed suicide. Those two people went through so much to be mocked by someone who's worthless? Get a grip, woman. If you were in the childrens' shoes, you'd probably seething with anger so SIT down.

iisstf28 Jaerimmie Wednesday, March 29, 2017

You know that those kids were 7 and 9 at the time?. And that the uncle killed himself in that same fucking year?? And you want them to just forget~ that someone though that mentioning them and their death mother in his song as something witty and fun? "Sorry I didn't know that they would be hurt about me making a joke about their death mother". And you just want this kid to not feel hurt and just forgive him like that?

Jaerimmie iisstf28 Thursday, March 30, 2017

I'm not saying that the kids should forget. The kids can resent them their whole life. But for Swings to step down from all shows?? WTF? What's that have to do with anything? The guy is hugely talented. Just because he made a mistake at one point, now he should give up on his career? Don't make me laugh!!! And my statement was a general statement. Koreans are like this in general, no matter how severe or light the situation is. That's that.

pinkstax7 Jaerimmie Thursday, March 30, 2017

so basically, talent can be used as an excuse to say whatever the fuck you want? even if it means targeting kids who cannot comprehend or even respond to said criticism? lol thats laughable. your past WORDS reflect who you are. he had the foresight to only write those lyrics but use it in a song. There was more than enough time to think about his words. But all is forgiven because he's talented?????

bangeryun94 Jaerimmie Thursday, March 30, 2017

As a Korean citizen, I absolutely agree with you.

ed_levy Jaerimmie Sunday, April 9, 2017

it's something called "accountability," something I guess Americans have forgotten. nice extrapolation going from a girl complaining about someone who exploited her mom's tragedy to "Koreans." excellent rhetorical skills USA #1

bangeryun94 ed_levy Sunday, April 9, 2017

You're American Eddie.

junxxmin Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Trainees have to step down or are taken out of their groups or unable to debut because of past controversies that happened when they were in school. Doesn't matter if it was 7 years ago, he gave a big scar to someone who was already suffering, he should take responsibility and reap what he sowed.

takit junxxmin Thursday, March 30, 2017

This whole restart is ridiculous. Though Swing was insensitive, its time to move on. These kids will suffer again, and again, why not let it go. The girl was just expressing her sadness over what Swing wrote, she knew it was years ago, you people are making it current. This family will not move on if you people keeps regurgitating their loss of their family.

NORM Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Really?? Step down from his current shows, for something he said & apologized for years ago '_' Don't get me wrong i understand the daughter's hurt (she has to live with it her whole life) but still knetz are over-reacting..

Charmingyu NORM Wednesday, March 29, 2017

There is no over reacting when it comes to death.

NORM Charmingyu Wednesday, March 29, 2017

it was 7years ago, the public critized him then as well, but should we remove him from whatever show he's doing everytime this issue is brought back up. This is almost the same as NEVER hiring an ex-convict cos of his past crimes, even if they have served their time & turned over a new leaf. P.s: Mind you i'm not criticizing the daughter for hating him, she has every right to.

iisstf28 NORM Wednesday, March 29, 2017

I'm sorry but if he is so messed up that he feels like joking about the death mother of a 9 and 7 year old, when their uncle just killed himself too, is acceptable... I don't even want to hear of that fucker in my life

lostseouls NORM Wednesday, March 29, 2017

People who think mocking someone's misery and joking about others' death thinking they're the coolest shit do not deserve to go on television. They should go and seek help in mental institutions.

pinkstax7 NORM Thursday, March 30, 2017

see apologizing to the public means nothing esp when the kids were too young to even comprehend why he was apologizing. so even if he did apologize to the public, it doesn't mean diddly squat when the people who should actually be apologizing to is too young to understand. He knew what he said was wrong, only after someone pointed it out to him. he WROTE the lyrics, found a why to make a RHYME out of it. How can someone be forgiven for insulting the dead, and the innocent?

pinkstax7 NORM Thursday, March 30, 2017

btw, thats like saying "we should forgive child predators because they've done their time and are going to turn over a new leaf" have you ever heard that being said in court? LOL there is a reason why law makers make it so child molesters have to register as a sex offender and have to stay a certain amount of distance away from children. I believe in forgiveness, but when its something calculated and used as a personal attack on INNOCENT CHILDREN I find myself unable to turn the other cheek. maybe when you have kids you'll understand, or god forbid something happens to your love one and someone decides to turn it into something they can profit off of.

bangeryun94 NORM Thursday, March 30, 2017

Indeed. And people might do well to remember how netizens villified Choi, believed her husband, and harrassed her non stop. So they want to act all indignant on behalf of her kid?

7amdowh Wednesday, March 29, 2017

he doesn't need to step down from shows now over a mistake he did over 7 years ago, but he did to personally apologise to the siblings

lostseouls 7amdowh Wednesday, March 29, 2017

He only felt sorry after 7 years???? Should Choi Jinsil's kids thank him now for apologizing? Should the kids thank him for stepping down from shows because of HIS brainless ass??? Y'all should get a brain or something and don't forget to invite Swings too.

iisstf28 7amdowh Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Stop calling it a mistake already... How is that a mistake?? Did he mispronounce some words and ended up saying the names of the 7 and 9 year olds that lost their mother AND just recently their uncle (in the same way that thy lost their mother)?? Did he think that the kids and the family were already over it?? That they would thing that his lyrics were witty?? That that ugly reminder that their mother is no longer by their side, that they are now just them in the world, was acceptable?

7amdowh iisstf28 Thursday, March 30, 2017

Yo calm down both of you. First of all I never said that they should thank him for anything, where the hell did that come from. It's been 7 years, you don't know how his mentality has changed during this 7 years. I not a fan of him, I don't even know much about him, so I'm not defending him. I just think it's useless to make him step down from shows and ruin his career for something that happened 7 years ago. What Swing did was WRONG, so he should apologise to them personally rather than give the 'public' an apology, even if an apology is not enough, isn't it better than nothing?, he failed to do that 7 years ago so he should do that now.

pinkstax7 7amdowh Thursday, March 30, 2017

A mistake can sometimes be equated to a accident. but this is no accident. he took the time to write and also rhyme. As he was doing that while also RECORDING. play backs, and etc he should have the foresight to take that part of the lyrics out of the song. but he didn't. he knows full well what he did was wrong. 7 years doesn't mean shit if your personality was shit to begin with.

graceeunhye Wednesday, March 29, 2017 matter how talented you are or no matter what tragedy is, you can not do this. especially it is a sensitive matter to the family....I dont know how He come up with that idea . YOu tought it will not pain to her family??? are you kidding me??? smh

redhop graceeunhye Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Artists, especially rappers, often refer to current news and topics. Many American rappers are talking a lot of the recent election and Trump in their lyrics. While I'm not condoning what Swings, he might have thought that there was no way that the children was going to hear his music. Swings and hip hop wasn't as popular back then.

j1msm redhop Wednesday, March 29, 2017

you say you're not condoning what swings said but yet your last sentence shows you are lol... "Swings and hip hop wasn't as popular back then." doesn't matter if hip hop wasn't "as popular" it was still relevant. LOL koreans have been exposed to hip hop since the 90s... choi jin sil's death was in 2008... hip hop was actually pretty popular this time... so idk what you're trying to defend lmao

redhop j1msm Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Condoning means I approve of it. I don't. I'm saying it just appears that Swings didn't intentionally try to hurt that family. He probably thought that there was a very little chance that they would hear his song or any of his music. Also, he apologized right? No hip hop was not mainstream at the time like it is now. Swings was a relatively new underground rapper in 2010.

lostseouls redhop Wednesday, March 29, 2017

How did he not intentionally try to hurt the family when he wrote the lyrics mockingly? Enlighten me.

j1msm redhop Thursday, March 30, 2017

i have cousins living in korea that loved hip hop since 2003... KOREAN RAPPERS at that... so idk where this is coming from? just because mnet decided to do a shit ton of rap shows you assume it's super mainstream all of a sudden? because it isn't all of a sudden... it's been relevant for a long time and a popular genre for a long time in korea. you're not condoning but you're defending him by making excuses for him... so what exactly is your point? is he wrong or is he not? because if he is then accept it and stop saying he didn't think the family will know..... obviously the news will get around. the internet was relevant this time so idk what you're getting by this. even if he was underground netizens would spread his lyrics... which they did lmao

redhop lostseouls Thursday, March 30, 2017

Yeah he wrote the lyrics mockingly, but I don't think he was mocking them. Maybe, he was calling out certain rappers.

redhop j1msm Thursday, March 30, 2017

My whole point is that he was stupid and insensitive, but he didn't have any intention of hurting them. I never disagreed with you. Also, Just because you have cousins that loved hip hop since 2003 doesn't mean hip hop was mainstream since then. There are people that like heavy metal in Korea, but it's not popular. Maybe, you have a different understanding of mainstream? It has to be appearing everywhere on tv and the genre has to be one the most popular to be mainstream. 2003 was a time when hip hop had a small following compared to now. At the time, Drunken Tiger and maybe Honey Family was popular, but that was about it.

j1msm redhop Sunday, April 2, 2017

funny my cousins all told me how popular korean hip hop was in school for them... but if you say so lmao

smokeee Wednesday, March 29, 2017

wow i just read about her.  her husband was a despicable piece of shit.  how did he not get his ass kicked every time he went out in public?  how did he even get jobs coaching too?  ughhhh makes me so mad.

seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

I love Swings. He had/has some mental illnesses, so he may not have thought straight at that time. I'm not defending what he did, but let's not just blame blindly. I hope the girl is fine, anyway.

smokeee seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

being a arrogant asshole is not a mental illness fool

seochulgoo smokeee Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Well, if you (clearly) don't know anything about Swings, I won't argue with you

iisstf28 seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

"Swings has OCD, major depression, bipolar disorder and post-traumatic disorder, none of this would get him to write, edit, record and release a song with these lyrics. His disorders have nothing to do with it." (comment from user Mia in Disqus.) Ik that's you are trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but... he doesn't deserve it...

seochulgoo iisstf28 Wednesday, March 29, 2017

In my conception, since I have or know people who have these illnesses, they would, yes, make him write nonsense things. It's my opinion, but I agree as well that the lyrics are cruel and f*cked up.

lostseouls seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

I know people who have these illnesses but I'm pretty sure they won't go out of their way and mock others' misery. They're even more sensitive about these kinds of things bc they're more aware about the hardships so idk what youre talking about

seochulgoo lostseouls Wednesday, March 29, 2017

This guy I know has a bipolar disorder and he tried to kill his mom.

smokeee seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

its really funny to me you're trying to make people pity Swings like he's inept or can't control himself, but if you have ever watched him on shows or performances he is very sane and very arrogant.

seochulgoo smokeee Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Almost every rapper is arrogant. I'm not trying to make people pity Swings wtf I just said that we can't judge him so much, and I said about the POSSIBILITY of him not being in his right mind at that time. And why are we discussing this? I agree that he did wrong. He should really apologize and I hope the girl can overcome those obstacles.

seochulgoo smokeee Wednesday, March 29, 2017

And you do sh*t, you pay. Swings has to pay. I never said otherwise.

smokeee seochulgoo Wednesday, March 29, 2017

no, bewhy isnt very arrogant, and NOBODY carries themself as arrogantly as Swingz in all of k-rap. i think its absurd you're trying to insinuate he isn't in his right mind when he is clearly a pretty sharp guy, at least amongst other rappers.

seochulgoo smokeee Wednesday, March 29, 2017

I'm not trying to insinuate that, wtf, do you even know how to interpret a text????? wtf I'm done with you now, bye see ya

takit seochulgoo Thursday, March 30, 2017

the young girl is fine the Neitzen is making themselves assish over this. The girl was just venting and voicing her opinion over the distaste.

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