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'Music Bank' says there are no issues with LABOUM's win

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KBS 2TV's 'Music Bank' denied that there were any problems with LABOUM's win.

KBS said, "The ranking every Friday is decided by the sum of all the data from the week before" and confirmed that LABOUM's data was not problematic. 'Music Bank's #1 is decided by 65% digital sales, 5% album sales, 20% broadcast points, and 10% viewer votes. LABOUM was able to win over IU by beating her on album sales.
 

SEE ALSO: LABOUM present a cheerful performance of 'Hwi Hwi' on 'Fact in Star'


However, unlike with BTS and IOI's issues in October last year, KBS has not released the data on LABOUM and IU's win.
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    Caveman13 24 days ago

    Not that surprising since IU never won in Music Bank after Friday, that's the last time IU won in Music Bank.. I don't know what happen..But i'm gonna make an "Assumption"...KBS is a Government own public broadcasting company, maybe they are trying to diversify the popularity of artist on international stage since they know a lot of international fans watch their show too, kind of an advertisement for Hallyu.

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    BigBlueagain Caveman13 22 days ago

    So you're blaming this on government manipulation of the popular vote? This is S. Korea, not N. Korea.

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    Caveman13 BigBlueagain 9 days ago

    There is no popular votes in any Music shows in Korea.. The winning is usually determine by Physical and Digital sales/chart/view, and if there is a voting (Viewers choice) it's usually just 10% of the total score.. And i'm not blaming the Government for Manipulation, the reason i said what i said is because : 1. KBS is a Government own public broadcasting program their funding is separately paid by Korean Citizen with TV monthly, so it is within their interest if KBS tried to diversify the popularity of their artist. 2. And if you look at the Music bank scoring standard Digital Music Chart is 65% and Album sales is just 5%. but there is a thing in music bank that other music shows does not have that is Number of times broadcast on KBS TV only which is 20% and viewer choice is 10%.. There are many ways laboum could win with Album sales and Number of times broadcast on KBS since the 65% in digital music chart is divided with many artist.. IU just appeared once in KBS so she is little to nothing in 20% and Laboum has been promoting for a while + album sales laboum sold 28,000 copies apparently.. SO it's not really Manipulation when the standard is already there in the beginning, it's just that the standard seems to made to give artist new and underdog artist an opportunity..

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    Funky_Angel 27 days ago

    Laboum's previous album sold 900 copies its first week for a total of 3,000 copies. This album sold 28,000 copies its first week. Since when did distribution companies print that many albums?

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    vucisi Funky_Angel 27 days ago

    what David implied I'm taken by surprise that a stay at home mom able to make $6989 in four weeks on the computer . look at this now............. ►►►http://4u.fyi/2ZP

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    kpopmaniatic 27 days ago

    If the company is doing sajaegi with Laboum, then why haven't they ever done it with U-kiss? Since it's another group on the company who has NEVER won on a music show... and they had their big popularity on music shows at one point. It doesn't make sense coming from NH media..

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    Imshook kpopmaniatic 25 days ago

    What is sajaegi?

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    kpopmaniatic Imshook 25 days ago

    When a company cheats their artists into winning by buying copies of their own albums or by streaming online.

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    Mona_Vanderwaal 27 days ago

    Just because an underdog group won over a monster artist, doesn't mean it's rigged. If y'all saying it's sajaegi, feel free to show the receipts.

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    Sacredproz Mona_Vanderwaal 27 days ago

    search for 'LABOUM suspected of sajaegi?' in onehallyu you'll get all the receipts you need. Rather theres no reciept showing that there isnt sajaegi

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    iisstf28 Mona_Vanderwaal 26 days ago

    OH has good receipts^^(the comments saying that they also have big sales in Gaon: Gaon takes the data of the distributors, so their company, so those sales from hateo are in there)

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    Sacredproz Mona_Vanderwaal 26 days ago

    Well the company basically just admitted to it, but rather then them buying their own albums, they have 'sponsors' or connections that bought the albums for them, essentially making the sajaegi legal if that was the case. With this people cant refute the win, but i dont think they gonna get out of this well as their reputation will drop.

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    iisstf28 27 days ago

    Then their company did sajaegi... I thought that companies had stopped all that bullshit, dont they get that it only gives them hate?? Not all publicity is good..

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    mr_112292 iisstf28 27 days ago

    “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you. - Luke 6:27-31

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    iisstf28 mr_112292 26 days ago

    Am I taking their price away?? Or saying that they didn't work hard for it? I'm just saying that the company did something really stupid that can only hurt Laboum.... yes, it's nice that they won for the first time, but no one will ever knowledge them for that and will start thinking that they some shady things to get that award like sponsors...

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    Nutelladela mr_112292 26 days ago

    why are you quoting the Bible to someone stating an opinion? She/he didn't swear at them or wish harm upon them.

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    iisstf28 26 days ago

    *their company has explained that they sold those albums to companies that are sponsoring them for advertising purposes(this explains why they were all bought in the same place and only got so many big sales in the first week and why the company was prepared). I wasn't awere this was a thing, but it was still stupid to just called it sajaegi without waiting for more info. So I apologize, it was not done with any ill intention against the group at all*

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    vincentrob11 27 days ago

    I told y'all. Album sales are the main reason groups like BTS, EXO, SNSD, Twice, & now Laboum win music show awards.

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    Sacredproz vincentrob11 27 days ago

    No, its a good mixture of album sales and digitals. BTS and EXO are physical monsters but their digital isnt weak too like some other boy groups. Twice is a digital monster which also excels in physical. SNSD is just SNSD. Laboum on the other hand didnt even chart for digitals, which is why they dont even get nominated for any other shows

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    dahyessi 27 days ago

    lmao just bc ur fave didn't win doens't mean there's a mistake, stop with this bs

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    iisstf28 dahyessi 27 days ago

    No, but it doesnt make any sense... thwy sold 10 times more than their best sold album did in till now in just ONE WEEK, the company definitly did sajaegi

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    kgm23 iisstf28 27 days ago

    That's not definite

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    hexrealm kgm23 27 days ago

    Its not a definite becos a millionaire might wish to present the girls with a gift by buying huge amt of albums. Anyway, that week they average 4k sales per day, the next week, they got 88 sales for the first day, 19 copies after that... shady as hell.

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    iisstf28 kgm23 26 days ago

    But if this wasn't planned by the company, why would they make so many albums?? In the first week of their last album they sold 900, now they are selling 28000 copies out of nowhere and they were prepared?? There wasn't even news about them doing well in presales at all.... a really bad organized sajaegi, it's just way too obvious... I don't want to hate on the girls, but companies should stop this shit already... it is just wrong

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    kgm23 iisstf28 26 days ago

    Could be rich oppas

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    iisstf28 26 days ago

    *their company has explained that they sold those albums to companies that are sponsoring them for advertising purposes(this explains why they were all bought in the same place and only got so many big sales in the first week and why the company was prepared). I wasn't awere this was a thing, but it was still stupid to just called it sajaegi without waiting for more info. So I apologize, it was not done with any ill intention against the group at all*

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    hexrealm iisstf28 26 days ago

    This kind of arrangement is till dodgy. What is the difference between the group's company buying up albums and these so-called sponsoring companies buying on their behalf? Is this common practice in music business? So the agency is basically telling these sponsoring companies, don't pay me money just go and buy a lot of albums. Isn't it as good as the agency jacking up sales?

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    Alberta_Man hexrealm 23 days ago

    It's the difference between self-dealing and having a large corporate customer help you. It's a pretty significant difference although some contend that only small retail customers should count.

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    kgm23 Alberta_Man 23 days ago

    But in the scenario the above person gave it was "but Laboum albums in lieu of paying for our services rendered". Which means the company were effectively buying the albums since they were saying don't pay us X fees just buy the albums instead to that amount. IF IF IF it's as the above person said

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    kgm23 23 days ago

    Buy not but *

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    yutakunnn 27 days ago

    I'm not even their fan but I feel bad for Laboum. first when they said that they are so famous in the army, people doubt it and said that they are just nugu. now when they have their first ever win, again people doubt it also. I know they are might be not that popular and their latest song wasn't chart so well so people doubt their win. but let they girls enjoy this moment, just think this as a reward for their hard work.

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    Sacredproz yutakunnn 27 days ago

    If they really did get those sales legitly and the company or any bulk buyers can prove it, people will congratulate them no doubt. If it was gotten through underhand means, they are better off not getting the win. The thing is nobody has been able to provide a receipt for their sales until now

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    iisstf28 yutakunnn 26 days ago

    They did work hard and are not at fault, but just letting this happend is not right neither... Everything about their sales screams of sajaegi, a really obvious one too... this is a serious problem in the industry that has to stop

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    yutakunnn Sacredproz 26 days ago

    I know its seems fishy with their win. but people who said they didn't deserve the win should prove it. instead of just accusing them doing sajaegi. because music bank just said that there is not a mistake but didn't give the evidence that they are deserve the win. so 'we' are the one who should bring the evidence that they are cheating. not just accusing them without evidence.

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    iisstf28 26 days ago

    *their company has explained that they sold those albums to companies that are sponsoring them for advertising purposes(this explains why they were all bought in the same place and only got so many big sales in the first week and why the company was prepared). I wasn't awere this was a thing, but it was still stupid to just called it sajaegi without waiting for more info. So I apologize, it was not done with any ill intention against the group at all*

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    Sacredproz yutakunnn 26 days ago

    the reciepts are all over the web you just need to do a little searching. Well the company basically just admitted to it, but rather then them buying their own albums, they have 'sponsors' or connections that bought the albums for them, essentially making the sajaegi legal if that was the case. With this people cant refute the win, but i dont think they gonna get out of this well as their reputation will drop.

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    Alberta_Man Sacredproz 23 days ago

    According to you, the 'sponsors' are so close to them they basically ARE them, hence it's sajaegi. If that were true, then it'd still be illegal sajaegi. You cannot scam the law, and if you can, it'll soon be changed. This was an arm's length deal unless you have proof otherwise. I get that you don't like the customer here because the customer isn't retail but other groups also have corporate customers.

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    Sacredproz Alberta_Man 23 days ago

    what corporate customers can you name that buys 90% of a group's albums? Exactly, it is technically legal thats why they dared to do it, but its something #everybodyknows is wrong and unethical, thats why nobody has openly done it, until now

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    ryusan2113 27 days ago

    I honestly don't care and it seems like UI doesn't either. Let the girls have this they have worked so hard for so many years. The song is great they sound amazing They look amazing so why not congratulate them?

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    Sacredproz ryusan2113 27 days ago

    Because of integrity issues? I know its not the girls' fault but if this is let through its just gonna normalise sajaegi, which is bad for the whole industry

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    iisstf28 Sacredproz 26 days ago

    IKR?! Why is everyone disliking comments that have a good point?

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    Alberta_Man Sacredproz 23 days ago

    This isn't sajaeji. If anything is normalized here, it's having album sales count to every customer that's arm's length. And I don't see a problem with that since you still have to produce quality product to make those sales.

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    Sacredproz Alberta_Man 23 days ago

    No, those sales didnt come from popularity, it came from business, and used for business purposes, they clearly arent popular enough. Why isnt sajaegi legal when someone still pays for it? Because its unethical, same thing here having a business partner buy your albums for promotional purposes is unethical as well. Legal but something #everybodyknows is wrong, thats why nobody has done it openly, until now.

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    aiyugwiyeoweo 27 days ago

    To determine #1: 65% digital sales, 20% broadcast points, 10% viewer votes, 5% album sales. Laboum: 116 digital, 2086 broadcast, 0 viewer, 2344 physical, total: 4546. IU: 3816 digital, 44 broadcast, 305 viewer, 0 physical, total: 4165. I am not on either side however I am confused. What I don't understand is if IU nearly got all 65% of digital (I'm comparing to Laboum) and all 10% of viewer summing to almost 75%, how can Laboum's dominance in 20% broadcast and 5% album sales make a difference (sums to ~25%)? Like no matter how much more physical Laboum has than IU, it cannot be more than 5%. Someone enlighten me pls. Are they calculating it by sharing each percentage category among all the participants? For example, of the 65% digital, maybe IU got 18%, Laboum 2%, Lee Hae Ri 12%, Minzy 5% (i am somewhat ranking based on digital chart success), and so on among all participants until it adds up to 65% and if they also did this for broadcast, viewer, and album percentages and finally summed each percentage up to see the one with most percentages.

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    Locoboy aiyugwiyeoweo 27 days ago

    They sum up all of the digital sales and look at what percentage of the sales was IU's song and that result weights 65% of UI's final score. Same thing for Laboum, but like they stated, IU had a lead on most data except album sales in wich there must have been a huge gap between them, otherwise I can't explain the win.

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    Renzorenzo12 aiyugwiyeoweo 26 days ago

    https://m.facebook.com/notes/jessicas-world/how-the-music-bank-winner-is-calculate/173954289288330/ Please read this.

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