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New girl group LipBubble accused of plagiarizing TWICE's concept and choreography

By yckim124   Wednesday, March 29, 2017   262,017   14,953   0



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New girl group LipBubble is being criticized for copying TWICE's concept and choreography.

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The 7 members of LipBubble recently made their debut with ''Popcorn''. The girls took on a cute and bubbly cheerleader concept. The cheerleader look is not new in K-Pop. In fact, it's been used quite often in the past by girl groups such as Girls' Generation and TWICE.

However, netizens are displeased at the great similarity between LipBubble and TWICE's concept for ''Cheer Up''. The outfits, color, pose, and other qualities of LipBubble's ''Popcorn'' are accused of being extremely similar to TWICE.

LipBubble's choreography is also being criticized. It's claimed that they copied TWICE's move in ''Knock Knock''.

Netizens commented, "Hul, they're exactly the same..", "??? It's too similar", "Seriously, what are they doing", "Is this noise marketing?", "It's the same", "Hul, I thought it was TWICE when first looking at a glance." 

What are your thoughts? 

  1. TWICE
  2. LipBubble

ponkotsu Sunday, July 2, 2017

"muh It's ok when twice do it"

RizalmieHisham Friday, June 9, 2017

Songs, Choreography and Image are company responsibility. Done blame the girls and boys when these sort of similarity happens. Market is too saturated with girls and boys group. Trainees already piling up like aged wine with some of the close to 10 years being a trainee. Ministries should also coordinate of capping how young those boys and girls that entertainment companies can sign on as trainees.

iGotAllTheJams Monday, May 29, 2017

it's cute that onces are claiming they copied that choreo but completely ignore the fact that 17 used that SAME move BEFORE them.... BIASED. or just a completely lack of knowledge in that thinking everything your group does is completely original to them... lol idiots xD

iGotAllTheJams Sunday, May 28, 2017

funny how that goes... when someone copies twice, all hell breaks loose, but when twice copy Hailee's song, twice are innocent little angels... smh

Shiharu Wednesday, April 26, 2017

Oh now TWICE owns everything, this girl group is the down fall of the nation, not the nation's girl group

Political_Sheep Monday, April 17, 2017

lmaoooo this is hilarious bc the outfits look nothing alike, they're not the same color, and the choreography that was "stolen" from Twice, was choreography that Twice stole from WJSN... cmon allkpop, you're better than that.

Bravegirlsss Friday, March 31, 2017

Ok twice & seventeen have not rlly the same choreo but a part of it is the same but thts legit understandable bc theyre using the same choreographer ?? But lipbubble ??? I saw their teaser and its exactly the same from the way theyre facing , not saying facing the same way is wrong . & the stadium also looks identical to the one twice filmed cheer up at . Usually if a grp uses another filming venue tht have alrd been used in an mv before they wld make it look more different than it usually is . But wtv . Bc bad is better than nothing lolol

GOT7__TALENT Friday, March 31, 2017

honestly, the only difference is that TWICE's picture is quality, while the other group's picture is just really crappy.

pablo27 GOT7__TALENT Friday, March 31, 2017

The seats are different...

Political_Sheep GOT7__TALENT Monday, April 17, 2017

It's a clip from their MV, not a picture. And if you can't see any other difference besides picture quality, please consult your eye doctor, because there are many differences.

kpopdontneedhate Thursday, March 30, 2017

Really, so many ppl need to stop being double standard, next time stop calling twice copy who, bcs twice invented twice, no one copy who, they are all unique, and some sone got to stop, they don't want to be next snsd, period!!!!!!

Taeng4ever kpopdontneedhate Friday, March 31, 2017

Are you listening to yourself or you're just a troll? Why would a fucking sane sone say that twice is the next snsd? These things are said by onces because SNSD is something worth looking upto and try to top their achievement

exoapink4tw Taeng4ever Friday, March 31, 2017

I think I'm a perfectly sane SONE and I think Twice is well on their way to achieving what SNSD has. Maybe this comparison is said by ONCEs because the likelihood is undeniable

Taeng4ever exoapink4tw Friday, March 31, 2017

Yes but a long way to go. And sones do not say twice is the new gg onces do

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Friday, March 31, 2017

statements like this are why I hate (D)ONCE and feel no shame in ragging on you or TWICE. Learn humility and know your place.

nojams2001 Taeng4ever Friday, March 31, 2017

Many Onces have agreed that twice will be twice. The people who are saying Twice are the next SNSD are just trolls and anti-fans disguised by fans to give our fandom a bad name. The once fandom itself is even fighting these stupid fake fans. people like @bigblueagain are so delusional to believe these fake people lmao. SNSD is SNSD. TWICE is TWICE.

Taeng4ever nojams2001 Friday, March 31, 2017

Good. Onces like you mentioned (twice is twice) are much better. Cute kittens are growing up fast

BigBlueagain nojams2001 Friday, March 31, 2017

Then you need to make yourselves seen and known. I call out fake Jumping and SOne all the time. Why? They don't represent us. I suggest you do the same instead of just saying it and basically defending those who are doing it (kinda like you just did here)

BigBlueagain nojams2001 Friday, March 31, 2017

And just so you know: Defending = making excuses to those who are attacking the person saying shit. Calling out = is directly addressing the person saying shit.

exoapink4tw Taeng4ever Saturday, April 1, 2017

So my being a SONE is now determined by whether or not I agree with the statement that Twice will be the next SNSD? How narrow-minded. Also, perhaps you misconstrue my intention, but I'm not talking about Twice copying GG's style or music and whatnot, but about their influence and place in the K-Pop industry.

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Saturday, April 1, 2017

Perhaps there's misconstruations but I don't intend to place Twice as if they are some kind of a copycat. Still, what gives you the right to declare what a true ONCE is? Naming everyone you disagree with as an anti-fan or a troll is precisely the kind of logical fallaciousness and selfishness that makes reasonable people facepalm. For the sake of time and since you're a fellow ONCE, I don't want to damage you too much, but honestly you need to think before coming to these illogical decisions.

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Saturday, April 1, 2017

It's that or ALL of you are (D)ONCE. Take yer pick.

Taeng4ever exoapink4tw Saturday, April 1, 2017

I can't begin to tell you how wrong you are. So, I'm not going to at all because I'm 100% sure you won't understand. Have a good day.

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Sunday, April 2, 2017

And by what reasonable standards did you come about that conclusion, exactly?

exoapink4tw Taeng4ever Sunday, April 2, 2017

Can't put it into words? Often that's a sign that you didn't come to that conclusion through logical thought processes, so yes, chances are good that I won't understand. I'm surprised you still dare uphold your position even as I call out your incompetency.

Taeng4ever exoapink4tw Sunday, April 2, 2017

Someone help me from this clueless idiot. I am gonna do u a favour and leave so u dont further embarrass yourself

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Sunday, April 2, 2017

What you don't oppose, you support by allowing to be done in your name. Any moron with anything even remotely resembling morals knows this. The fact that you have to be told this explains why you don't know it. Try again troll.

nojams2001 BigBlueagain Sunday, April 2, 2017

if you saw a trolling once comment how bad a group is, you'd assume that they represent our fandom which is why you hate our fandom so much, Youre so delusional to believe all that crap. I've seen many onces commenting positive comments on videos where they show twice interracting with other groups like GFRIEND, SNSD, BP. those trolls are just trying to make our fandom hated on more, COMMON SENSE. you say you call out fake SNSD fans because they DONT represent the fandom which is true. but why can't you believe that our fandom has nice people as well? are you blind?

nojams2001 BigBlueagain Sunday, April 2, 2017

how tf was i defending the fake fans? Just admit that your crusty ass hates twice ffs. I literally just explained but it seems that you can't digest the words. The once fandom HATES these kind of people to the point where we have to constantly remind dumbasses like you to not believe their sh-t

pablo27 Taeng4ever Sunday, April 2, 2017

OK, lemme see if I can help both of you... no sane SONE will ever say that Twice is the next SNSD... but an insane one would... same as no sane Once will say the same... but an insane one would... both groups have an insane mount of followers and for this reason it is impossible to speak for everybody... what to do? Use common sense... that's all... since no one person represents the sentiments of a fandom, those who spew out hateful comments are either insane or manipulators... they come ut of the woodwork during SNSD's time... and now they're here for Twice... different eras, same idiots... that's the way it is, unfortunately...

exoapink4tw pablo27 Monday, April 3, 2017

And why would no sane SONE say that, in regards to stature and place in the industry? Also, "common sense" is a very often misused phrase thrown around thoughtlessly. What is the composition of acetic acid? A chemist's common sense would indicate CH3COOH, but such a formula likely exists nowhere in a layman's mind. See? "Common sense" is a product of logic, philosophy, experience, knowledge, etc... The point here being that in needing me to point this out to you, to demonstrate that "common sense" is in actuality an invalid argument, basically proves that your logic is faulty. Unfortunately, too many have the pride to feign fallacious positions

exoapink4tw Taeng4ever Monday, April 3, 2017

One way to help yourself would be to think thoroughly before throwing fallacious statements out. You wouldn't like to see a garbage truck dumping trash all over the streets, would you? Neither would I, so do use your neurons.

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Monday, April 3, 2017

Same problem with pablo27, "morals" is something fluid and unestablished. By way of your logic thus far, I doubt your "morals" have any knowledgeable merit to them. As well, what about the ONCEs who simply are not aware of the actions of fakers? You're stating that they're somehow liable. Any moron with an ounce of intellectual logic and thought would realize how ridiculous your pretensions sound.

BigBlueagain nojams2001 Monday, April 3, 2017

Slick, you are a (D)ONCE and a NOne. You make the same fucked up claims that the antis make against SNSD while claiming to support them.

BigBlueagain pablo27 Monday, April 3, 2017

Then ONCE need to call them out and do it very publically. NOT just sit there and attack those of us who are taking it for what it's worth, a ONCE trashtalking SNSD. Not the whole fandom? Prove it.

Taeng4ever BigBlueagain Monday, April 3, 2017


pablo27 BigBlueagain Monday, April 3, 2017

Sorry, i don't do pointless... as I said too many people with different reasons... I know I disagreed with you at times but that was because you directly insulted Twice... most times I really respected your comments... as for the (D)ONCES... i really can't be helped... each fandom has their own version... I'm not a Once... and I like all girl groups Twice being my faves... so yeah, I see that idiots are the loudest... that's why I'll just stan my biases and try to stay out... although I cannot guarantee a 100% success rate...

pablo27 exoapink4tw Monday, April 3, 2017

I can see that you have not understood anything I've said... "Common sense is an invalid argument"... wow... it's not supposed to be an argument... it's supposed to be the answer... anyways, whatever you're ranting on is pointless so have fun using your brain and all them big words and hope that, to others at least, no one notices how empty your head is...

exoapink4tw pablo27 Monday, April 3, 2017

I don't think you're capable of understanding logic, whether that be because you actually think you're right in your thinking or that your ad hominem intents are blinding you. Do you know how a discussion is settled? You present an infallible (or, according to Occam's Razor, the least fallible) argument. If I've disproved "common sense" as an argument, it cannot even be considered rationally as an answer. What I'm "ranting" on is about intellect and if you honestly think that's pointless then I hope now that I've laid it out like this, you can see how utterly devoid of sense you are.

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Monday, April 3, 2017

"You make the same claims anti's do while claiming to support them." I can't fly. Penguins can't fly. Therefore I'm a penguin. Can you actually not see how retarded that is?

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Monday, April 3, 2017

"Then ONCE need to call them out and do it very publically." Right. So where? News sites? OH? Is there a forum specifically to call out people? Moreover, we don't need to do anything. What actually needs to happen is that people like yourself need to realize how ridiculous your fallacious thought processes are. "NOT just sit there and attack those of us who are taking it for what it's worth, a ONCE trashtalking SNSD. Not the whole fandom? Prove it." I know you don't see it, so let me just point out this very simple fact - similarities between ONCEs end after "they all like Twice." You want to hold ONCEs accountable? How exactly does a single person who shares probably only a small patch of common ground with another represent an entire group? The only thing about us is that we love Twice and if someone attacks SNSD while not particularly involving Twice, how do you drag them in? Sure, it's not inaccurate to refer to us as ONCEs, but let's actually think about this. In a court case of vehicle vs. pedestrian, you could accurately refer to my hypothetical Plaintiff A as a Christian and Defendant B as a Muslim. Are you inaccurate? No. Is it relevant? No. It's all the same logic. You can refer to us that way but it wouldn't represent us as a whole by any intellectual standard. That's what Muslims say when they say terrorists don't represent them. By your thinking you're saying Muslims are all terrorists. If you're not? Then there's a logical discontinuation that needs to be addressed.

kpopdontneedhate Taeng4ever Tuesday, April 4, 2017

Well, get your facts right again, is the media say ,not from once.

kpopdontneedhate BigBlueagain Tuesday, April 4, 2017

I don't think what is wrong with my statement, since you are a hater, your comment is not really important.

kpopdontneedhate BigBlueagain Tuesday, April 4, 2017

Attack???are you just say we attack?? what the fxxk, is the thrice(you) and hater(you) who attack twice first isn't it??? tell me!!!! don't tell me you are rational, i know you are hater, i see you everywhere bashing on twice.

kpopdontneedhate Taeng4ever Tuesday, April 4, 2017

Don't tell me you are a mature fans, didn't you saw my comment, i said every group is unique,so stop said twice copy your favs, certainly we don't want twice be like them, but if there are rookie group seen twice as a role model, Once will feel proud, certainly won't bash on them, unlike like your fandom.

nojams2001 BigBlueagain Tuesday, April 4, 2017

At this point I can't take you seriously. I literally being honest yet youre denying sh-t. Im so done with people like you. SNSD fandom has immature fans but they dont represent the fandom, that is my thinking, but you stlill think the once fandom is "immature". Whatever, go think what you think you delusional piece of shit

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Tuesday, April 4, 2017

If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and has wings, guess what?

BigBlueagain kpopdontneedhate Tuesday, April 4, 2017

Of course you don't .

BigBlueagain nojams2001 Tuesday, April 4, 2017

SOnes call out NOnes because we know they DON'T represent us. If you don't have the spine to do the same then I can see where you'd hide behind lame justifications. Most cowards do.

BigBlueagain kpopdontneedhate Tuesday, April 4, 2017

Yes, I am Thrice. Why? Because ONCE allow the (D)ONCE to command the narrative and define the fandom. Since you won't stop them yourselves, you're all culpable. Grow a backbone and police the fandom or deal with me and people like me. And no, you don't have any other choice.

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Tuesday, April 4, 2017

(1) I pointed out a single trait and you come back at me with two traits? Now that's just academically mischevious, isn't it? Not that I mind, since you still miss the obvious point. (2) I don't expect you to understand taxonomy, but I think you know that within a genus there are multiple species. Let's say a ONCE who talks shit is duck species A, but those mature ONCEs are deck species B. Even you can't twist this to equating the species. Perhaps your problem is you still don't realize that there are multiple kind of ONCEs, the sole similarity being that we stan Twice. (3) Same with your SOne and NOne misrepresentation, you don't have the right to say how they don't represent our fandom. All that is needed is that they stan GG and nothing. The only problem here is people like you don't realize your definitions don't have monopoly over what defines the fandom. Like it or not, we're all one and the same in being a SONE. (4) So fans have to police the fandom to qualify as a fan? Now there's just a ridiculous presupposition. K-Pop is supposed to be a pastime/hobby, not a job. (5) Of course we have another choice. Again, your narrow-minded definitions don't hold any weight in what defines a fan.

nojams2001 BigBlueagain Thursday, April 6, 2017

oh really? how dumb are you? Do you really think that we can stop every immature fan? I don't give a f--ck if you are a thrice. DO you think twice cares? They're too busy to care about your f-cking complaints and your problems about them! Go ahead and blame the whole fandom you delusional piece of sh-t. People like you are just bringing shame to the community by hating a girl group just because of some immature people triggered your crusty ass. Hate the immature fans not the girl group dumbass. In the inside your just a butthurt bitch b/c a few fans triggered your faves. so pathetic and immature. I hope that someday you'll realize that comments like this make you look like a f-cking dumbass and immature b--tch.

BigBlueagain nojams2001 Thursday, April 6, 2017

Thank you for validating everything I've ever said about (D)ONCE. You must be so proud. Congrats.

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Thursday, April 6, 2017

Then you accept and condone what they do. So you shouldn't be surprised when you find out that we hate you for it.

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Friday, April 7, 2017

(1) When you push some people, in nojam's case, simply by being an irrational hater, they speak out in less than decent ways. It's not a trait that ONCEs hold alone (you'll notice ONCEs are actual people and hold human traits, such as sometimes low tolerance to frustration and trolls). All you did is push nojam to that point, not prove anything about ONCEs. Furthermore, even if nojam were what you (wrongly) categorize him as, how does it validate everything you said about a whole group of people? That's simply ignorant. (2) I accept that they're other human and do what they feel inclined to, but what deduction gives you the conclusion that I condone it? I'm not about to devote my life to policing the immaturity of illogical brick walls like yourself. Tell me what you find wrong with that. How exactly am I to blame for other people being [i.] irrational [ii.] having irrational presuppositions [iii.] senselessly hating to the point you deem policing fandoms necessary? (3) Shouldn't you be policing yourself? You tell us ONCEs need to speak out but when I come from you from multiple logical angles, you present the very embodiment of unwavering idiocy. Hypocritical, no? You should both hate yourself and be trying to actually learn logic and reason. Absolute morality? Absolute devotion to a hobby? Labeling entire groups of people by the actions of a few?

nojams2001 exoapink4tw Friday, April 7, 2017

don't bother replying this person is so f-cking blind to see the truth. God i feel that the once fandom is the most oppresed fandom in the kpop community. If i say something, id get bashed right away. I tried so hard convincing this person to use their common sense but I guess this b--tch denies everything and makes up sh-tty excuses. SMFH

BigBlueagain nojams2001 Friday, April 7, 2017

Oh you poor widdle fing. Done whining yet? I'll put this so simply that even YOU will get it. If you don't stop them, then they speak for you. That being the case, YOU deserve all the shit you get about this.

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Friday, April 7, 2017

If they throw shit using YOUR name and you do nothing, you are approving it. That simple. IF you don't like that, tough shit. Do something about it and start getting on the case of these "insane" members of your fandom. You do that and I'll stop. I did it with EXO-L and if ARMY keep it up I'll stop with them. Unfortunately (D)ONCE like you would rather make excuses for those you labeled as "insane" than to stop their "insanity". Right now you have about as much credibility as Trump calling Bill O'Riley a "good man who did nothing".

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Saturday, April 8, 2017

(1) They only "speak for us" in the eyes of the idiots who cannot be bothered to understand that the actions of a few who share even just one trait with the rest doesn't represent the rest. (2) Again with the poor presupposition. Since when did inaction equate approval? You sound like someone who got drilled with too many of those "bystanders are just as bad as bullies" messages. If, say, there were a war between nation A and nation B and the latter were getting decimated based on poor reasoning, would I, nation C, approve of this invasion if I didn't interfere? There are aspects of reality you don't seem to be capable of grasping, such as the "leisure" aspect of hobbies. (3) You're not stopping anyone with such trash ideology. To this point you've only stated things but yet fail to provide reasoning. (4) If anything, riddle me this: why do you think common fans have to police their hobby? (5) I'm not sure I'm making excuses for anything, only throwing out logical conclusions which might contribute to any said insanity. Evaluating both the root and the disease is important. (6) I'm afraid Trump hasn't provided any logical reasoning on par with me, so there you commit a false analogy. You see I'm superior intellectually, don't you? High time you began listening instead of believing in "ironclad" ideology, as if you couldn't be wrong when I've proved your premises irrational. (7) You think like those fools calling all Muslims "terrorists," you do realize?

kpopdontneedhate BigBlueagain Monday, April 10, 2017

Get the facts right, is thrice pretend to be once, they can't even called once, stupid , been fooled by hater and troll, fine, you can believe what you believe, at the end of the day, you will know you just been fooled, pathetic.

Political_Sheep kpopdontneedhate Monday, April 17, 2017

how about instead of defending Twice, why don't we defend these poor girls who are being attacked for something they didn't even do???

BigBlueagain kpopdontneedhate Monday, April 17, 2017

It's cunts like you (D)ONCE that make me hate TWICE instead of just not care. Fucker.

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Monday, April 17, 2017

IF you let them do it, you agree with it. What part of that is too difficult for that pile of shit you call a brain?

Taeng4ever Political_Sheep Monday, April 17, 2017

Guys can you please fucking stop? I keep getting notifications and its time to end this lol?

pablo27 Taeng4ever Monday, April 17, 2017

ikr... but still, I'm enjoying it... but it's getting old... hahahahaha...

Taeng4ever pablo27 Monday, April 17, 2017

I was a part of this if you scroll up ( will prob take 1000 years on my crappy device ) i am not even following the debate anymore idgaf honestly

pablo27 Taeng4ever Tuesday, April 18, 2017

Me too... very briefly though... when someone says common sense is not the answer then my common sense would tell me I'm talking to a rock... so i stop... but my notifications don't... *sigh*

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Thursday, April 20, 2017

I'm letting poverty run amok everywhere in the world. I'm a human being, and am part of the world system, but do I agree with poverty? It's not that I don't understand, but logically your statement is fallacious (as I've proven, say, 3+ times now) and that's what you fail to realize. I've only proven you wrong on a logical front over a dozen times.

exoapink4tw pablo27 Thursday, April 20, 2017

Your common sense is obviously flawed. Like with BigBlue, I've logically defeated your presumably infallible position but you too fail to see legit rationale. Perhaps you could consider, logically thinking, that you are in fact one of the rocks in this shitshow.

pablo27 exoapink4tw Thursday, April 20, 2017

I never replied back not because you defeated anything... it's because you're not worth it... my common sense tells me you don't have common sense so why bother? You're so full of yourself you didn't even consider your insignificance... oh, and your analogy about the chemist... his common knowledge would tell him that CH3COOH is acetic acid... his "common sense " would tell him not to drink it... see the difference? I am so done with you and your shit... I wish I could spit...

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Thursday, April 20, 2017

Let me put this in terms that even your pseudo intellectual wannabe lame so-called brain can understand. Fuck off.

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Thursday, April 20, 2017

You recognize it, you do nothing to counter it, you endorse it. Deal asshole.

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Thursday, April 20, 2017

Yo stupid. Non sequitur and logical fallacy paired with flawed circular reasoning is NOT logic and disproves nothing. What it is, is bullshit. And slick, you are an artiste.

pablo27 BigBlueagain Friday, April 21, 2017

"The only sure way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." Dude, I think everybody gets that. However, I gotta gotta give it to the other dude because he's got a point... it's a's not a job to police a fandom... I'd rather police my neighborhood ... and as I said before every fandom has their share of idiots... you have called out NOnes but they're still out there... whatever drives someone to hate is totally out of our comprehension or control... you have your bias group and they're in the journey of their lives... just enjoy the ride...

exoapink4tw pablo27 Friday, April 21, 2017

(1) I don't believe I have "common sense," in the manner that I share similar thought processes and conclusions with the majority. It's not so much an insult, though, seeing as blatantly nobody thus far has presented rational arguments. It's rather fortunate I don't share idiocy with the masses. (2) Common knowledge is part of sense. How would he know not to drink the acid? Believe it or not, it's not because it's some natural sixth sense indicating it's dangerous, but because he knows the acid to be potentially fatal. You understand that one should possess knowledge before making decisions, yes? (3) You can spit. You should do it for yourself though, seeing as how you've just ad hominem-ed a guy who's disproved your ignorance. (4) I was almost surprised to find you acknowledging my "policing a hobby" point. So take that a step further, and what might we arrive at? If the common masses realize a few outstanding haters don't represent a fandom, then what is there to police? The point here is that these "haters" are not our responsibility. It's either immaturity of the haters, of which the fandom doesn't quite have a hand in, or the opposition of the haters attributing "evil" to the rest of us.

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Friday, April 21, 2017

(1) So how many times have you simply stated a statement and expected me to understand? Moreover, how many examples have I given which disproved your "inaction equates endorsement" crap? Say Russia invades Ukraine. China does nothing. Does China endorse Russian invasions, now? Or is the gov't simply being smart in not wanting to engage in war with another world power? If you want to try getting your point across, garbage as it is, disprove each and every of the examples I gave. Failing that, you have no right to make any such claim as truth. (2) I could likewise claim some bullshit fallacy names, not support them, and fail to contribute to arriving at any conclusion. I don't think you have an ounce of logic, so we're quite circular, no? Maybe it's you that's fallacious? Perhaps we'll finally see if you can back your grand statement by defeating my examples. I think the problem to be that you don't understand reality isn't black and white.

BigBlueagain pablo27 Friday, April 21, 2017

The point is if you do not let people know that the "antis" do not speak for you, they will. It is a just a hobby, but do you still want people like that to define the narrative that defines YOU in this hobby?

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Friday, April 21, 2017

(1) if they do nothing, yes. If they protest via political venues then no. "Point" disproven. (2) That's all you've been doing here. Now, are you done making a fool out of yourself or would you like to continue being ma bitch?

pablo27 BigBlueagain Friday, April 21, 2017

I get your point... but I have a whole lot of things in my life that does not give me the time nor the inclination to set my hobby at the head of my priorities... so if people like that define the narrative that defines me in this hobby then so be it... I hear knitting can get me some extra cash...

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Saturday, April 22, 2017

(1) You're incapable of distinguishing between "unwilling to" (i.e. world power poses sanctions or threats on a small protesting country), "condoning," and "supporting." There are at least 4 shades here, not just "against" and "for." How do you not understand that? (2) Fool of myself? In your reply to pablo27 you said "if you do not let people know that the 'antis' do not speak for you, they will." The presupposition here indicates that antis in fact do not speak for us, a point I've been trying to make you see but instead you fail to admit. If you agree that it's the definers fault how the fandom is perceived, in what world is there fault for us in other people's idiocy? You can say all the shit you do, but you just defeated yourself multiple times. (3) The narrative that defines us in this hobby is narrated by fools. It's not your prerogative to dictate what our image should be and how much of life we spend fighting for a hobby (that we could simply ignore the haters, for example). (4) All you can do is throw around profanities and unsupported claims whereas "your bitch" has given logical proof at every turn. Mhm. How curious.

BigBlueagain exoapink4tw Saturday, April 22, 2017

Logic - reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity. ie what you are sorely lacking. You have zero validity. You keep using fucked up circular logic to "prove" what you say and it STILL has no validity whatsoever. If you allow bullshit in your name then you are bullshit. Even your moronic pea brain would understand this if you weren't so busy making lame assed excuses. And that, bitch, is why you are MY bitch. Because as long as you keep replying with your bullshit, your ass is mine. And now, this is another lesson for you. It's called being dismissed... until I get bored again and feel like kicking your pathetic self around some more. Feel free to continue talking to yourself.

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Saturday, April 22, 2017

Zero validity? As in you not refuting legitimate, real-world examples that are contrary to your ideals and hopelessly restating a black-and-white line of words? And still you claim "circular logic" without actually quoting any said fallacy. I mean, fucking hell. How does anyone actually believe that there's such thing as black-or-white in this world?

exoapink4tw BigBlueagain Saturday, April 22, 2017

Anyway, as far as any person capable of rationalizing is concerned, you've essentially resigned by admitting (in your comment to pablo27) that perceptions are the fault of the spectator. If they don't realize that whatever actions are done "in our name" do not align with our ideology, the sole of it being that ONCEs or SONEs like Twice/SNSD, then there's no fault in the part of the fandom for their ignorance. This whole time you're saying shit about us for not policing other people's ignorance but why in the world would I police a hobby wherein any found fault lies not with me? That's an absurd thing to demand.

pablo27 Thursday, March 30, 2017

It's NOT plagiarism... the seats are totally different...

JessicaJungLove pablo27 Saturday, April 1, 2017

lol you know what's the only difference? that lipbubble's picture has a realy crappy quality.

pablo27 JessicaJungLove Saturday, April 1, 2017

If you look closely... lipbubble's seats are curved more... and they have those wavy wedges underneath that eye looking logo''' so yeah, it's not plagiarism... that's my story and I'm sticking to it... ;)

JessicaJungLove pablo27 Sunday, April 2, 2017

whatever makes you sleep at night, hun.

Taeng4ever JessicaJungLove Thursday, April 6, 2017

Tell me ypu were not serious xD cause this gave me a good laugh

Political_Sheep JessicaJungLove Monday, April 17, 2017

1, this was not a picture Lipbubble made, it is a clip taken from their MV, and it literally lasts one second. 2, A LOT of K-pop artist film in the places that others have filmed. For example, there's a popular spot in Yongma Land, used by Highlight's "Ribbon", B.A.P's "1004", EXO's "Love Me Right", Crayon Pop's "Bar Bar Bar", and even Twice in "Ooh Ah". There is also a popular place under Seogang Bridge that Boys' Republic used in "Get Down", U-KISS used in "Stalker", and 100% used in "Better Day". Are they all copying for being in the same place too??? Not to mention that Twice didn't even use it in their MV, it was just a photo....

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