michinpabo Andaru • Wednesday, August 31, 2016

None of that matters. China is a communist country and if the government put their foot down, nobody can do anything about it. Plus, they have more leverage since they are the customer.

Andaru michinpabo • Wednesday, August 31, 2016

Same could be said for Koreans. In the end, Koreans don't care if China bans their entertainment. They are not going to remove THAAD in order to please China.

Winston Andaru • Wednesday, August 31, 2016

If China can even ban things like "GOOGLE" and "FACEBOOK" and let local tech/media firms develop their own versions of SNS "Wechat" and others, in which the govt has control over. than i dun think the govt cares so much for creative content, since the local demand "for a GPS, Chat program, search engine and others" can easily be filled by local companies like tencent, and others. and no one seems to really go crazy over not being about to use Google, Youtube or facebook in china, if they have alternatives and are used to that.

Andaru Winston • Wednesday, August 31, 2016

I'm speaking in terms of developing dramas, music, variety shows, fashion etc. Not search engines and SNS. A'lot of Chinese entertainment these days come from collaborations with Korean corporations. China is literally, "Biting the hand that feeds them" content wise, by initiating a ban on Korean media content.

Winston Andaru • Thursday, September 1, 2016

These "bans" are just temporarily, everything just blown away by time, they just want to please the country that they are being "patrotic" by taking action against a country that annoyed CHina. but it will not be a perm ban that last forever. it will be over in a few months at most.

wny0425 Andaru • Thursday, September 1, 2016

To be frank, these collaborations are reported often that's why it seems like a lot of chinese entertainment these days are collaborating with Korean corporations but in reality, its like maybe at most 10% of it are in collaboration with Korea. China entertainment does not lack creative content imo. Its just that it is not a global trend so the international community dont know much about it. Though i have stopped watching China-produced drama but its because i find it creepy that a lot of new china actresses are starting to look alike.

jokerfish Andaru • Thursday, September 1, 2016

"Korea will take a financial hit, but in the long term China has more to lose in terms of creative content development." lol are you actually saying Korea's going lose money and jobs but China is going have to watch their own dramas and therefore, China's the one who's going suffer more?

Andaru wny0425 • Thursday, September 1, 2016

Chinese entertainment is mediocre. Specifically, Hallyu fans in China will suffer the most.

Andaru Winston • Thursday, September 1, 2016

How are you so sure? It could get worse.

Andaru wny0425 • Thursday, September 1, 2016

3-4 of the most popular shows in China right now are Korean spin-offs. It's not the quantity but the quality that matters.

Andaru • Thursday, September 1, 2016

Out of the 10 most popular*

Winston Andaru • Thursday, September 1, 2016

Its the same as the Chow Tzuyu incident, the media play will stir up some articles, and then some companies like the sponsors will react to change the model in respond to the negatively, and then before you know it, the issue is blown over, and everyone is back at cheering for TWICE and such, again. China now is more about Knowing whats Popular and what makes MONEY, there is a saying, Why reinvent the wheel? the same goes, to their way of thinking, If We can take a Already-proven successful program, and re-make it in China, and it makes money and have high viewership, than why bother trying to develop and experiment with NEW content, and Risk it not being as popular as a Korean-Remake. They have re-makes of "running man" , "IC", "dad where are you going" "Please take care of my fridge", "hidden singer", almost every popular Korean variety show is re-made with a similar version in China, and the audience loves it, and it sells like hot cakes, They are only interested in the fact that the product is making money, and not whether the product is made by them or not. thats why you see Shops blantly copying and abusing copyright laws, There are actual Fake Apple stores in China, where everything from store design, products sold, employee uniform and such, is all fake and they openly do it, without any guilt over stealing other's ideas or content, so long as it makes money.

bestrc intricate • Wednesday, August 31, 2016

This may or may not be another example of the Chinese government exerting economic pressure over THAAD. We'll never know. I'm not sure why you would say 'nothing is because of THAAD,' given the number of similar incidents recently (kpop idols being blurred out on tv for example). And given that Chinese state media has explicitly admitted to it.

kpoplolita intricate • Wednesday, August 31, 2016

adding to what bestrc said 'the collaboration' which had both K&C idols, with jpark, mino, kangsangyoon and zico was cancelled after 5 eps despite high ratings. 'Heroes of Remix' blurred and edited out poorly PSY and iKOn, vixx and monsta X. like u can seee its PSY, and his face is blurred only. so yes there are people and shoes affected by THAAD. AKP doesnt report everything.

kpoplolita • Wednesday, August 31, 2016

shows*

intricate kpoplolita • Thursday, September 1, 2016

But there's no actual proof that show business got affected by THAAD in the way that has been reported, certainly not by the central government, how pathetic would that be? I can understand the government boycotting one product or the other (like what is happening between Russia and the EU), but individual idols from Korea? It doesn't make sense that one idol does get cancelled, and the other doesn't. If anything, it's producers and their bosses who decide these things on their own due to their personal fear of what the government might do to them. So maybe indirectly THAAD has affected some things, but it's certainly not government policy to block an arbitrary number of idols. The way people say this has played out is so unlike a government shutdown on something, and to top it off, it doesn't seem effective at all. Instead, the government might simply make it harder for folks to get a visa, or some other monetary penalties, such as cutting government funding if not cast members are Korean. But none of this seems to be the case, as far as I know. The government deciding which idol can and can't work in China... that's hardly sending a message about the government's dissatisfaction with THAAD.

bestrc intricate • Thursday, September 1, 2016

bizarre, pathetic, arbitrary, unbelievable --> these words all apply to the Chinese government. There is no official policy or document (yet) because that is not how Chinese diplomacy traditionally works - you have to read between the lines. The government is purposely making Korean businessmen (and therefore SK politicians) nervous by sowing such confusion about economic retaliation, as Kpop is just the tip of a much larger korean export industry (clothes, foods, makeup, tech etc). I'd encourage you to just google about this, because there are a number of well written articles from various publications (including Chinese editorials from state published media like the Global Times) laying it out in more detail.