Canadian police are accused of using excessive force on elderly Korean couple

By alice101 Monday, October 31, 2016 34,219 209 124

Reports of Canadian police officers using excessive force on an elderly Korean couple is drawing attention in Korea.

The incident occurred in a hotel in Coquitlam, Canada on October 27, where a Korean man in his 80s was dragged down the stairs while his wife had her arm twisted. A person at the hotel captured the entire incident on video.

It is reported that the police were responding to a phone call that said that the elderly couple got into an argument during a town hall meeting. The couple was ordered to leave but refused to do so.

The investigation into the police actions and the initial reports of the argument is still ongoing.

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ilikekpop • Thursday, November 3, 2016

Wow, could should a little respect for authority.

PacifistDJ_OKO • Wednesday, November 2, 2016

check

DiMiCa • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

There are some videos on youtube under Rcmp Bad Behavior.

aeviou • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

lol I'm reading the comments here vs the thread on Reddit. Such a difference in the way things are discussed.

intricate • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Police obviously not performing like they should... how is it so hard for them to take those 2 old folks into custody with them (without hurting or embarrassing them)... Also, for what reason are those old folks resisting like they are? Seems to me like they think US police and Canadian police are the same or something.

luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

The problem is westerner doesnt really appreciate/respect old/older people or even their own parents. they can even call their parents by name. This totally different with korean where the elder must be respected by those younger person. Its saddening how the police could harshy pull the elderly down the stair when its obvious the elderly was harmless. i mean the old couple doesnt seem to have any weapon with them. The other police also get verrrry afraid when people touch their back; ie paranoid soul.

bestrc luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

I hate to break the news to you, but elderly people are arrested in South Korea too.

luhanna95 bestrc • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Ofcoz! but show me the video on how they get arrested for "getting into argument" in public in korea

bestrc luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

If an elderly person resisted arrest in South Korea, they too would be forcibly subdued. We don't know why the police were called, what actions the police first took, or why they were resisting. I respect age, but age has little to do with anything here.

xXxNoOnexXx luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

u sure u wanna talk about westerners? Girl don't even get me started with North Korea.

xXxNoOnexXx luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Just because the couple was old doesn't mean they were innocent. What's the difference between a 21 years old men killing someone and a 85 year old killing someone? They are both criminals aren't they? So why u bashing out on westerners? The police were just trying to make them following the laws. Its his job.

luhanna95 xXxNoOnexXx • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Are they a killer? Nope. They just get argument in public. Wait till your own grandparent get arrested like that. Anyway, its funny how u could mention north korea. U must be just a 12 y/o kid

bestrc luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

I've read several of your posts here. Putting aside your nonsensical argument about cultural morality, it's remarkable that you talk about respect while constantly resorting to childish insults and stereotypes.

xXxNoOnexXx luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

So your saying that just because the elder man didn't kill someone, he shouldn't be punished for a crime he has committed? Public Disturbance is a crime he committed, and if he really was innocent, why is was he resisting? He could have just done nothing and let the police take them to the station and explain. It's a police officer's job to make people respect law. What was the police supposed to do then? Bring Popcorn and watch them fight? Even a 14y/o understands that. Were in the 21st century and we don't judge people by their appearance or age anymore, but by their action.

aeviou luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

A serious altercation must have occurred beforehand for them to call the police. This has nothing to do with respect for elders or lack thereof. I'm not saying that dragging a person down the stairs is any way of solving it but it's been reported that the couple does know English and there was even a Korean American cop there.

luhanna95 bestrc • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

U tried to aside morality?? No wonder u can defend such ridiculous action. Nowdays there is lot news on innocence people get "accidently" killed by over paranoid western police. So i bet its must be non shocking view of old people getting dragged down the stair like that. What a sickening society!

xXxNoOnexXx luhanna95 • Wednesday, November 2, 2016

canadian police and american police doesn't work the same way. Its clear u don't leave in a western country cuz u don't seem to understand what's actually happening. With this type of moral, u can definitely be the next Donald Trump.

Truthz luhanna95 • Wednesday, November 2, 2016

You sound very stereotypical. Have you been collecting all your information on westerners through media and reality shows? The police were called to the scene, not just walking by and deciding on their own to step in. The old man RESISTS, and it's very clear. His wife clearly did not resist as much, or was not strong enough to, and the other officer simply kept her hands behind her back. I don't think that was possible with the old man. Just because you're old doesn't mean you can ignore the police.

jelly1109 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Ya'll defending the police are ridiculous. Yes, the grandparents should not have resisted, and the police officer probably asked them to leave politely beforehand, but these grandparents PROBABLY DID NOT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH VERY WELL, and even if they knew bits, they might've been so wrapped up in their argument that they could not fully comprehend the situation, ESPECIALLY WITH LANGUAGE/CULTURAL BARRIERS. Policemen are law enforcers, but they should also be sensitive to the mixed society and culture they're dealing with. BOTH SIDES WERE WRONG, and brute force was wrong because the police KNEW he could overpower an elderly bunch.

desikyu jelly1109 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

No culture or language barrier would make a man hold onto a railing to avoid arrest. I'm not making a judgement here because so much is unclear from the video. But sometimes brute force is necessary to resolve the situation - them being elderly doesn't mean the police are going to just stand there forever.

luhanna95 desikyu • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Yeah, i expect you to just surrender if suddenly police come to arrest you and your parents esp in FOREIGN LAND. No matter how unjust u felt, just SURRENDER yourself. POLICE ALWAYS HAD RIGHT TO ARREST ANYBODY AT ANYTIME IN ANY WAYS THEY LIKE. Remember just surrender and talk later. =_=

jelly1109 desikyu • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Please don't forget that they're probably also frightened, and as much as you and I believe we wouldn't do the same, no one knows how defensively they behave by instinct in the moment. The police shouldn't just stand there forever waiting for the elderly people to comply - but they should know better ways than dragging someone.

jelly1109 luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Why are you yelling at me as if I'm the person. I hope you'll never find out what it's like to be in that situation, but you never know how YOU'LL feel and react if you are. You won't feel the police has all the right to arrest in any way they like.

jelly1109 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

dragging someone *if they're old, that is. If the police is smart, they'll know better ways.

desikyu jelly1109 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

I understand your point - it's certainly disturbing to watch. I'm just not sure what other methods the police first tried or could've used here. They need to stand him up to arrest him- which is why they have to drag him away from anything he can hold onto (the railing). Tasering him could've been a lot worse.

luhanna95 jelly1109 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Its was a sarcasm response toward @desikyu.... not you

jelly1109 luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Oh...I see. Sorry I didn't understand! I see what you're saying now.

aeviou jelly1109 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Just another tidbit of information: it's been reported that the couple do know English

luhanna95 jelly1109 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Its ok. Anyway, the elderly couple has expressed their dissatisfaction on the issue n insist the police to apologize. They also getting a lawyer, so i hope this will occur again. Police should have handle it better and treat people esp elderly with respect

luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

*will NOT occur again

kim_kdrama • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

This is an absolute disgrace, even though the old couple were arguing the policemen could've asked politely not drag them around. If you see the little girl, you can see how desperate she was for the police to let go of her grandma. I honestly think the canadian police were too harsh and shouldn't have acted so rashly. I feel upset and horrified by this, but it is partly the grandparents fault.

Naruta kim_kdrama • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

I'm pretty sure the part we got to see on the video was already AFTER the policemen asked politely. We didn't see the start of everything nor do we know exactly why the police was called at all. It wasn't most likely not only an argument with words, for that I guess no one calls the police just so. And still there's the question: Why did none of the other Korean people even try to help and translate calmly to ease the whole situation? There must have happened something worse before and therefore I can't blame the police that harshly.

luhanna95 kim_kdrama • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

this what will happen when the western society failed to educate their younger generation to respect their parents/elder people. Its totally opposite with korean where the elderly is respected by everybody.

kim_kdrama luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Oh yeah, sorry I did not think about that haha yes they are both at fault

Xvipxni • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

They shouldn't have resisted. You can here the officer screaming that.

MyTwoCent Xvipxni • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

yup, once u resist..thats it. fellow koreans around wasnt much help either..

jelly1109 Xvipxni • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

They probably didn't understand English well, so raising the volume won't help. Even if they understood a little bit of English, it probably wasn't enough to fully comprehend the situation, especially during an argument with cross-wired emotions.

luhanna95 Xvipxni • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

are u stupid? they are not terrorist or anything to be treated that harsh =_=

Xvipxni luhanna95 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

No, im not stupid. I'm logical. If it was anyone else the police would have done the same thing. Just because they're old doesn't mean they get a pass at everything. That might sound stupid and senseless to you but that's how the law works.

Xvipxni jelly1109 • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

I read that the husband did an interview and spoke perfect english so...

Xvipxni MyTwoCent • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Exactly. What were the police supposed to do. They'd be condemned if they did or didn't so it's a tough spot to be.

mi_goreng • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

this is absolutely disturbing to watch. how can they do that to people in their 80's? It breaks my heart to see that girl crying for them to stop. and to the people saying that the grandparents should have followed police orders and resisted, i dont think that they understood what resistance meant. its just so disgusting the way they treated the grandpa, dragging him down the stairs!!

xXxNoOnexXx mi_goreng • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Do u even know what actually happened? It's the police's fucking job to make people follow the orders. Since it happened in Canada, I'm pretty sure the officer politely asked them to stop at the beginning. Besides,what were the police supposed to do when the old couple resisted? Bring popcorn and watch them fight? Wake the fuck up, just because the couple was old and korean, doesn't mean they were innocent.

mi_goreng xXxNoOnexXx • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Excuse me, there is no need to be so rude and start swearing at me. I understand that the police have their own roles, i never stated that they should not have done anything. but the way they handled the situation is seriously wrong. how can they drag an elderly man down the stairs? I also never stated that because they were old and korean they were innocent, i said that they wouldnt have understood the situation. so why dont u wake the fuck up because everybody has their own views :)

xXxNoOnexXx mi_goreng • Tuesday, November 1, 2016

Sorry I misunderstood ur comment, I thought u were defending the elderly couple just because they were old. I didn't read it all until the end! Sorry again! (T-T)