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Ministry of Education cancels degrees for Doojoon, Junhyung, Kikwang, Hyunseung, Sungjae, Eunkwang, and Choo Ga Yeol

Dongshin University has been found guilty of giving preferential treatment to Highlight's KikwangJunhyungDoojoonB2ST's HyunseungBTOB's EunkwangSungjae, and folk singer Choo Ga Yeol

The Ministry of Education held their hearing on Dongshin University and Busan Kyungsang University on the 14th. During the hearing, Dongshin University admitted that the celebrity students were marked present even though they were not in class by taking in broadcast activities as attendance. However, there were no protocols for such before 2015, or any regulations that students could take attendance some other way. The Ministry of Education decided that their attendance could not be accepted.

Choo Ga Yeol especially was lecturing as a professor even though he did not have a graduate degree. His time on supposedly attending class lectures overlapped with his lecturing schedule, and he could not have been in class. He will not only lose his degree, but also his status as a professor. 

The Ministry of education has decided to cancel the degrees of all 7 students. The university itself has been required to serve severe penalties to 1 student, mild penalties to 9 students, and warnings to 6 students. 

  1. B2ST
  2. Hyunseung
  3. BTOB
  4. Eunkwang
  5. Sungjae
  6. Highlight
  7. Doojoon
  8. Junhyung
  9. Kikwang
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Blue82 10 days ago 16
10 days ago

Yet the standards have changed and now many of their broadcast activities can count towards attendance depending on their degree plan. Attendance is ridiculous anyways for most degrees. Unless you are getting a medical, legal, or science based degree that requires hands on labs there is no real need to be physically present as long as you log your online class discussion hours and participate in discussion boards plus do the proctored testing. It's accepted for many degrees from thousands of colleges and universities all over the world. First world countries need to stop making higher education so difficult to obtain. It creates a wealth barrier so that poor students have to maintain jobs while also attending school AND maintaining excellent grades to keep or obtain financial aid. It's a lot easier to ear college credit if you can do online for some of the classes.

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teleri 10 days ago 4
10 days ago

Exactly. In the US Military, for example, there are all sorts of precedence for actual jobs you did while in the military counting as credits, and for those taking courses online to count 'life experience' as credit. This is really a bad thing unless ONLY the celebrities could do it.

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Blueblankety 10 days ago 6
10 days ago

If you wanted to take online courses you can, but if you take classes that requires you to go to class then you should go to it.


Not only do professors clarify and give proper examples, going to class you will figure out what’s important in an exam. It’s ridiculous, it’s not hard to obtain a degree go to class and stop spouting your nonsense.


That’s why you’re taking arts courses lol.

Medical, law, and science cover more than half of university courses LOL.. why would you put “most courses you don’t need to go”

You sound so silly.


Don’t listen to her, online classes are tailor made to be so you can study it yourself. This person is probably taking arts courses (history, eng lot, etc) that doesn’t require much those classes and the job you can obtain from them are less in demand in the outside world. When everyone has a BS and you have a BA good luck competing for good jobs.

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T_Jazz 10 days ago 3
10 days ago

RE: "Creates a wealth barrier"


For some reason, I think that may be intentional.

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Linlex 10 days ago 28
10 days ago

It is better to take action to the managements of the universities, not to the artists. Why did MOE treat the students & spoiled the images of the artists.

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Winston 10 days ago 7
10 days ago

They did take action on the management of the universities but to let the celebs graduate with the cert when their attendance is lacking is just unfair to the others who attended.

BESIDES MOE didnt punish the celebrities they just cancel the degree thats all, no FINE or anything imposed on them.

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T_Jazz 10 days ago 3
10 days ago

They paid their tuition and other fees. Is that refunded?

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NicoSolace 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

10 of them got penalised, no? Also I can only presume they're out the money for getting the degree.

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hiroonakamura 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

so what if it is unfair? that's life. It's would be one thing if these idols had been told that they cannot miss class, but obviously they were allowed to do so by the university so they acted in good faith.

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unholypeach 10 days ago 7
10 days ago

Because it's unfair to the people who actually attended the classes.

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nanako_daniel 10 days ago 4
10 days ago

spoiled image ? everyone knows u re supposed to attend class when u are a student .they only can blame themselves when they are 'punished' like this .no college in my country allow anyone with bad attendance to graduate .dont be so biased just because they are your oppa lmao

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chelsea101 10 days ago 3
10 days ago

The problem is that Dongshin University told the celebrities when they were applying to schools that their broadcast activities could be counted as attendance, but the problem is the university never put it into their official regulations so when the Ministry of Education investigated, it became a problem. The professors argued that broadcast activities are counted as attendances but they never made sure there was an official rule stating so. A lot of Korean netizens are saying the celebs are victims in this and that the university is at fault. Imagine attending 4 years of university according to their rules and getting a degree, but suddenly a couple of years after graduating, being told that it's being canceled because the university professors made up a regulation.

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teleri 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Exactly. This is nonsense. The SCHOOL made this rule and told these students they could do this. I just find this ridiculous :(

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hiroonakamura 10 days ago 1
10 days ago

it would be interseting if these idols got together and sued the ministry

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teleri 9 days ago 0
9 days ago

Not the ministry. They need to sue the university.

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Bethbeez 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

I'm going to need more details than they didn't attend some of the classes...

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cheesecake19 10 days ago 3
10 days ago

Ouch ! But I can't even complain because the Ministry of Education is only doing the right thing.

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teleri 9 days ago 2
9 days ago

No it is not. It is penalizing students for a university failing to do their PAPERWORK properly.

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cheesecake19 8 days ago 1
8 days ago

Don't get me wrong, you do have a point, and I love Highlight, but either way, they can't just let them keep their degrees if they didn't rightfully earned it. It's not just a simple paperwork mistake. This example is kind of stretching it, but you wouldn't want a doctor to examine you if their degree was earned through favoritism instead of hard work and they barely even attended class right? Like their med school just literally lied on paper in order to get these students, their faux degrees. Nah, that shit ain't right, bruh lol.

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teleri 8 days ago 0
8 days ago

Look, I've got years of experience attending universities, and teaching at them. I retired from the US Navy and worked for a while as the liaison for the GI Bill students at one.
YOU are the one who doesn't understand here. These guys were told that their STAGE EXPERIENCES, ongoing & past, would COUNT as ATTENDANCE. In other words, count as equivalent credit. Right now, this is an approved practice at this university! What don't you get about this? The UNIVERSITY did not get the proper papers stamped until after these guys graduated. OK? Got that? It's a PAPERWORK problem!
The amount of incomprehension this issue is generating just leaves me speechless. Also explains so much about how mob rule can be swayed with misinformation :(

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hellah 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

what did you do to them "CUBE"?

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SadChemE 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Honestly this is a waste and bs. They now have rules that others can do what they did. So it's okay for people to do now....which is bs. Id have a problem with attendance issues if they were doing something like med school or hands on serious stuff. But really their degrees are in musical arts stuff.....like I think that they shouldnt have such strict rules considering they're getting more experience than fellow students anyway. So really they're being punished for going above and beyond. I'm not even a fan of any of them really but they shouldnt take the degrees away

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vixxenken 10 days ago 2
10 days ago

Imagine all that money spent being wasted like that...this hurts me so much to read. I feel bad for them but I agree...if you know your schedules are going to get in the way, you shouldn't go to school unless you can make accommodations for yourself that other students can do too. Yikes.

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Donna_Dash 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

But it was the school that told them their broadcast activities could be counted as attendance. This is really the schools fault they gave these celebrity students false information without checking if their unofficial rules were in accordance with the law

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Nina14red 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

I agree too. They may have been better off taking online classes so that way they can go at their own pace while still working.

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hiroonakamura 10 days ago 1
10 days ago

why are they cancelling their degrees though? If the university told them it was ok to do broadcasting activities then the students didnt really cheat did they?

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teleri 9 days ago 0
9 days ago

Nope - and now that the school got their paperwork in order it's perfectly fine with the Ministry of Education for students to do this. So NO it is blatantly UNFAIR for these guys to lose their degrees just because the university didn't do their PAPERWORK properly!!!!!
I hope they sue the school, honestly.

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changminbaby 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

im having mixed feelings about this, some people had to work and study in the same time to pay their fees, and also it depend about how well the student do when its about exams and how smart they are, judge them for their capacities instead of about presence,i feel its unfair because some people really didnt have the time.it should be the only condition of presence is when the subject depends a lot of the presence of students like requiring labs or a lot of pratique experiences.

in my university there is about 3 students in my class that dont attend at all ,they only attended 3 times: for test,presentation and exams why? because they are working and when they told teachers they were understanding that not everyone have the time and not everyone live in the same environement. and still they graduated why? because they are smart enough and study when they had the time so why preventing them from graduating

so what im saying in some conditions presence can be obligatory in others its not

and degrees based on presence is not good (my opinion) some people get prevented from graduating because of their tough life.. no one should be forced btw dropping out of their job in order to study

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GoTPanda 10 days ago 7
10 days ago

I really don't know what to feel.. I know it was the university's mistake but the idols must have know about it, like how can you not know?

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teleri 9 days ago 6
9 days ago

How exactly would you know??? If your school tells you that your performances will be counted as credit, WHY would you question this? In fact, now that this university did get it's paperwork in order, it IS fine!!! So again, WHY would they have known the school wasn't doing it's paperwork properly????

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GoTPanda 9 days ago 5
9 days ago

Please re-read the article. Now you don't think they did something wrong?

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Alvish_Aamir 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

This is a bit worrying. Knowing that Korean celebrities have a very tight schedule so, they are not able to carry on their studies or get a degree puts a lot of them in complex. It is quite sad to hear that they were basically scammed into getting a degree and now they don't get it at all

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hiroonakamura 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

every time i read articles about korean laws, my head hurts. so stupid so often.

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Natapak 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Now I understand that Late night live Insta of Junhyung, and we all were wondering why he was saying sorry and why he was crying. I knew that something about to come out.

In my opinion CUBE is too blame, they have promised to make arrangement so Idols could fulfil the schedules, Idols did the job Cube ruined everything.

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Ugouna 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

sometimes when you play, you can loose. It's the game ! With all consequences.

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unholypeach 10 days ago 1
10 days ago

What gets me is the idols that are going to university and not turning up are taking spots from people who actually need to get those degrees to make a living. Majority of successful idols are more than likely to retire with a healthy sum of money (+ continuing royalties) to get them through.

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miyagusuku 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

that can't be what gets you cause that's not even an issue that has been brought up. The concept of classroom availability has never been an issue brought up regarding any course that idols are partaking in. Based on information available classroom availability is not an issue, more students applying for the course simply means larger classroom sizes or hiring an extra prof on contract. These idols do not have the grades to get into exclusive programs where class room sizes are limited due to demand.

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Canucks4Life 5 days ago 0
5 days ago

Some of you should educate yourself, they were called a private degree mill for a reason. Preferential treatment was the norm and that is exactly why these idols went there, they already had a reputation the investigation was not the first and was quite lengthy. At least one University head was also stripped of his position, and his college barred from recruiting new students for two year's.

Stop kissing your idols butt and actually know what your talking about.

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Dnnstrr 9 days ago 0
9 days ago

Will not form an opinion because the facts are not laid out straight just yet. I feel really bad for them, though. I hope everything gets sorted out peacefully and justly.

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Armyinthehouse 10 days ago 0
10 days ago
Man people out here buying degrees as they buy Gucci clothes, to show off. Not cool guys, not cool supposed to be an honorable institution.
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nnani 10 days ago 3
10 days ago

I feel like of course the folk singer should be penalized cause wtf? That's just dumb. But the rest shouldn't. It's not really "preferential treatment" when they have a hard ass job to do. It's not like they work part time at Starbucks. They are celebs. they have other stuff to do as well. Yes show up to class once in a while, but they really shouldn't be penalized. There's only 1 human being, no one has a damn clone to be at two places at once. :/

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Ohboy69 10 days ago 2
10 days ago

You do know that getting a degree is not mandatory, right? If they're so busy with being celebrities, then maybe they should just focus on that, instead of pretending to do university work, just to get a (pointless) degree. It's their choice, and getting rewarded for half-assing something just because you're somewhat famous... preferential treatment. I bet you'd love that, if your colleagues at work would get preferential treatmet of any kind, suuure.

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nnani 10 days ago 1
10 days ago

"pretending" lol you do realize a LOT of people still would like to go to school? Just because you're a celeb doesn't mean "well who cares about anything else I'm a celeb, everything is a okay". No it doesn't work that way. And what fucking part of a colleague who works the same job as me, or goes to the same school but works a different job for say they work retail, is completely different than being a celeb didn't get through to your brain? YOU CANNOT compare. They are entirely different jobs you nitwit.

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Ohboy69 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

And I want to be crazy rich without doing much work, but what can you do? Just because you want something doesn't mean you will get it.

Being a celeb shouldn't give them any more rights, you think other students don't work? Idk if you're a child, or just plain stupid, but newsflash - most students work to support themselves. Only, they get paid less than your average celeb, why not give them preferential treatment? God knows they're more useful than all the celebs, who can barely sing.

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nanako_daniel 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

good

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Winston 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Although i think celebs still enjoy some privileges, these days, its slowly starting to gain public awareness that rules are slowly changing, from the past issue of CELEB Soldiers getting special treatment in army, and getting the easy life. many of such rules are being removed, and many celebs who enlist also feel that they are "being watched by the media and public" and is more conscious to do well, and not get criticized for special treatment.


Examples like Heechul who is priased by his commander for his work, and more recently Kwanghee whose commander and fellow solider mention how he use his hands (with gloves of cos) to clean the toilet while others normally used a brush or something. he mention he didnt want to be single out for trying to take it easy just because he is a celebrity.


also many celebrities have enlisted in units like Marine and special forces which have tough training then regular units and did well in it like Lee Seung Gi etc.


now the focus is on Education. and i think the practice of asking for DC, aka Celebrity Discount. is also frowned upon. as a abuse of your celebrity status for special treatment.

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HyperQ4 10 days ago 7
10 days ago

I'm really not sure what to think about this. They really don't have the time...

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nanako_daniel 10 days ago 6
10 days ago

then dont go college lol

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miyagusuku 10 days ago 5
10 days ago

you shouldn't have to attend class to graduate a college/university. As long as you still complete the required work and write the exams along with paying tuition there's no reason for failure based on attendance. That is a joke of a rule only enforced by countries that are likewise jokes. There are plenty of students who acquire degrees without attending the majority of lectures. Not attending class can jeopardize someones grades based on their learning experience, the inability to keep up with class material etc leading to failed assignments and exams but to have a degree taken away despite having grades that meet requirements solely on the premise that they did not attend lectures is a joke.

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Winston 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Which is why i think if you are NOT going to attend the classes due to your career, then they should just follow what some celebrities do, JUST DONT go COLLEGE, until you deem yourself LESS BUSY to be able to attend classes. (or near retirement).

Rather than attend college for the SAKE for just getting a cert for nothing. and not going to class for most of the time. if you are so busy with your idol life then just dont enroll in a college. like Haon and some other celebs did. I believe so did IU.


After all, getting a college degree isnt the only way to succeed in life and its far better than getting into the BAD news for "using your celebrity status to get a pass if you dont do well but still graduate"

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Blueblankety 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Oh fuck..

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Kurare 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

#REKT

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kpoplolita 10 days ago 1
10 days ago

faaaaaack oooomg ----> Choo Ga Yeol especially was lecturing as a professor even though he did not have a graduate degree. His time on supposedly attending class lectures overlapped with his lecturing schedule, and he could not have been in class. He will not only lose his degree, but also his status as a professor. ---> that sucks BIG TIME. getting ur degree revoked plus teaching status.... but i guess since they got preferential treatment...its fair? MAYBE the uni should have made a statement like..MOVING FORWARD WE WILL NOT DO THIS EVER AGAIN

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teleri 9 days ago 0
9 days ago

They didn't get 'preferential treatment'. Choo Ga Yeol was granted a graduate degree but it's been taken away now. The university screwed up their paperwork. NOW that the paperwork has been properly done, current students are using experience for credit. These young men are being penalized for the university's errors. And they should be sued.

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Illsick 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

It only makes since considering the rules. If your not in class then you are participating, whether it’s online on in class. Attendance is a rule that you can’t just skip, it’s disrespectul to the professors who make the effort to be on time. Plus this is a pre-2015 guideline so there is no excuse.

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Kpop_Rocks_Laura 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Well at my University, if you miss a class three times it's a failure but if you want, you can take the semester off and not go to school. Or just take less classes depending own your own personal life. All schools are different though...

I never understood how they balance school and the kpop music life. I will die out of stress!!

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enzoa 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Bok-Su is back...

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Jonis 9 days ago 0
9 days ago

Serve them right !

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ExoWeAreOneOT12 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Who need university degree at this time and age , money speak louder then anything , isn't the most rich people did not finish their study

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Taktak 10 days ago 2
10 days ago

Wow. Shame on the uni and the artists. There should be no excuses. How can one expect to earn a degree without attending classes. Here in the UK, you would be expelled without a doubt but esp in a country like SK how did they think they would get away with this. I'm sure the artists fully knew how wrong this was, like they are not kids and they probably knew too how hard other students work for their degrees. Maybe their company put them up to it and maybe they really wanted and needed the degrees but could possibly not due to their schedules. But bottom line, it was their decision and clearly they thought they would be never found out. If they did not have time to go to uni then should have just quit.

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teleri 9 days ago 1
9 days ago

In the UK, when I went to Glasgow University, attendance at lectures was not even recorded. They were available, like the books in the library, etc, to help you pass that all-important exam at the finish of term. If you could pass without going to lectures, GREAT!

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Taktak 9 days ago 0
9 days ago

In my uni, which is in the UK too, lectures are recorded using our ID cards. If ur uni did not require it and just trusted the students to attend then thats great and u can decide feely whether u want to attend or not as it is not regulated.


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in this case, it was required and ruled for ALL students. otherwise they would not have had to lie and fabricate their attendance. They did wrong to chose the easy route out and i dont get the people supporting them using their own opinions and personal facts are not relevant in their specific case.

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Kosmo_Lap 10 days ago 4
10 days ago

why do they bother when some of them are already rich?

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Winston 10 days ago 1
10 days ago

some parents just want their kids to have a college cert because they feel its batter to have one if they dont make it big as an idol or if they retire from the entertainment business and want to find a job outside.

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Kosmo_Lap 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

I'm referring to the rich ones like Sungjae, whom I read is a son of a CEO.

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Hopefully 10 days ago 1
10 days ago

Because in Korea it's not okay to not go to college. It's considered a huge negative not to be educated or even to get your degree very late. Idols are also looked down on for not attending college (if they don't). At most men can postpone a few years because of the military but otherwise it can really affect you for your whole life.

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Kosmo_Lap 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

I see.

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10 days ago


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Cutie888 10 days ago 0
10 days ago

Ummm wrong article......

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