Heechul says he is extra cautious nowadays

By jubilantj Tuesday, August 23, 2016 33,923 3,491 101

Heechul sat in as a substitute DJ for Kim Tae Kyun on the August 23 airing of 'Cultwo,' bringing laughter as usual with his witty commentary.

During the airing, Heechul praised himself with, "Thanks to 'A Hyung I Know (a show he is a permanent member of),' [SM's] stock is skyrocketing."

Heechul then added more seriously, "I have to be more careful at a time like this. I even sold my car so that there won't be any rumors. When I think to myself, 'Oh things are going great,' that's when something happens. So I'm not doing anything that will cause trouble."

KittyVicky • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Poor thing! With all the nonsense going on in the Idol world these days, I don't blame him for being curious. But I would hate for this change who he is.

Blue82 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

This makes me sad. Heechul has always been open and very flamboyant in his attitude. What I mean by that is that he's fierce and fearless in the way he lives. For even Heechul to become so cautious it says a lot about the way idols are treated in Korea. They live under a microscope and there is no leeway given for any perceived wrong in the supposed fans eyes. I don't want the Heechul that is so beloved to change who he is and how he is out of fear.

BigBlueagain Blue82 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

I thought this PR bullying thing was just bullchit for sales, but they really do have a reason to be afraid. Koreans can get nasty when they go after each other. I mean REALLY nasty. http://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/koreas-dirty-little-secret.25959/

Funky_Angel • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

He's never caused scandals but it always feels like he did. For how bizarre he is, he has his head screwed on tight

JYJRainbow • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

yeah you should be specially with all the false accusations going on

BigBlueagain • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

As long as he refrains from using emojis, pic filters, sms, dating, seeming to date, showing interest in appreciating an idols good looks, or even looking as someone's "bae", he should be fine. Oh and no precribed medications either. They'll try and kill ya for that one. Oh and to be safe don't perform in Japan... or China... or Taiwan... best just to not ever leave your house again.

trogdorthe8th BigBlueagain • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

This was both hilarious and sad at the same time- I salute you for that, lol

intricate BigBlueagain • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

idols are some of the people with the most exceptional lifestyles in society but everyone expects them to be more normal than the average citizen. Maybe they should all just wear masks like hangeng and never reveal their identity, like that band GREEEEN in japan.

KittyVicky BigBlueagain • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Great comment!

BigBlueagain • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

The paranoia is real. Problem in this situation is that just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you. Who are 'they'? KNetz. (shudders)

trogdorthe8th • Tuesday, August 23, 2016

It's really shitty that he felt he had to sell his car. The problem is, once people know what his car is, it's too recognizable and then he can't go about his life as he pleases, because literally EVERYTHING will be under a microscope. It sucks, I mean, I know celebrities in the states do that, but the difference between there and in Korea is the ultra conservative views. If someone happens to meet up with another person, yes people might think they're dating or just friends, but it won't affect their career that badly if at all in the U.S.- in some cases, it can actually help some people's careers. But in Korea, with the anti-fans, their more conservative views on relationships, and the sasaengs (I won't call them fans, they are horrible stalkers), it can literally tarnish if not destroy someone's career and personal life. I can respect taking a more conservative view on things- I won't get into a lot of details, because there is plenty of things in Korea that I find backwards and upsetting, especially in reference to women and the LGBT community. However, some people take things WAY too far over there when these idols feel the need to shut themselves off from the general public to keep some sense of sanity, as well as attempt to have regular contact with people without it hurting their careers. Watching him over the years, and seeing how reserved he's had to become, I feel for this man, and many other men and women in the idol world who have to put up with this crap.

lye54 trogdorthe8th • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

If Korea refuses gays that's their right? You can't have a double standard. Gays are against religion because religion don't allow them to be together. Korea is a very conservative country. If you are gay you should understand it too. Not everybody are fans of gays.

BigBlueagain lye54 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Religion is a decision. Homosexuality is a form of human sexuality. They don't have a choice is how they're born. If religion has such a problem with them then maybe you should have a little sit down with your god as to why he made so many.

angelca120200 BigBlueagain • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

There's actually no proof people are born gay. Homosexuality isn't a gene and isn't in DNA

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Wrong Dr. Alex Sanders identified the genes. Now can you name the genes responsible for heterosexuality? Because if you can't, how do you know you're born that way and just didn't choose to be?

chaelicen angelca120200 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

it's not just humans either. many animals have been spotted in sexual intercourse involving two animals of the same sex, but animals don't discriminate. only humans do. is being heterosexual a choice? no. likewise, being homosexual isn't a choice either. educate yourself before trying to act all smart. also, korea refusing gays isn't a right, it's just a social construct. and might i add it negatively imposes on MANY koreans because guess what, there are gay koreans!! also, korea might be "conservative" on the outside, but that's just the stereotype. live in the country and you'll see how conservative it really is.

chaelicen • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

korea is doing wrong by not allowing homosexuality or any other lgbtq+/saga relationships/identities to occur. it's wrong. it's scientifically proven and if i, as a CHRISTIAN KOREAN, can admit that, i'm sure you can too. good day.

trogdorthe8th • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

I appreciate the comments from most on this thread, save for the few from angelca120200, but this situation is seriously sad for Heechul. I mean, look how they're crucifying Tiffany right now? If I were him, I'd probably hide in my apartment with the blinds shut, I'd be afraid I'd breathe on someone the wrong way and it would be turned into a scandal. The struggle over there is real for idols, I sincerely hope he gets some good R&R on this Hawaii trip they're taking- I know they're calling it a conference, but I hope the idols get some actually down time to relax and just be themselves AWAY from all the craziness.

lye54 trogdorthe8th • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

blah blah blah. Korea is a conservative country and they don't want gays. Now go get some rest.

lye54 chaelicen • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Which Korean are admitting that? Please don't speak for them. If they allowed them to be gay then why is it such of a big deal for homosexual to admit that they are Gay? See your argument is stupid. Get a clue everybody don't have to accept gays for whatever reason. Guess what not everybody get to fuck who they want. Some of you here dreams about fucking those Idols but that will never happen to you. So SUCK IT UP.

intricate lye54 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

conservatism and not wanting gays are different things though... if you don't want gays in your country you're just being a bigot.

BigBlueagain lye54 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Wrong. You DO have to accept 2 things. 1. that they exist. 2. they are entitled to the same rights you think you are. Anything else makes you a tyrannic bigot.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

Still waiting for you to show us the genes responsible for heterosexuality... and waiting... and waiting...

lye54 BigBlueagain • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

I don't have to accept anything. I believe in God and God said that this people are perverted. Don't get me started on these doctors that lies to push a homosexual agenda. You are trying to tell me that those perverted people scream out loud that they have some homo genes? LOL So Pedophiles too then ans zoophile as well. Please go take a seat ok.

intricate lye54 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

god created gay creatures, and pedophile creatures, even necrophilic creatures. Guess you're not very familiar with god.

BigBlueagain lye54 • Wednesday, August 24, 2016

So you are a religious nutjob who thinks that an all powerful all knowing allfather in the sky needs hired thugs aka followers to enforce his will. Now that seat is about to be broken over your brainwashed nutjob head. People who try and equate human sexuality to criminals and people who practice bestiality are just showing that you are complete idiots with the IQ of my old sneakers. The problem is YOU. Bigots like YOU who think that your mindless belief in a mythology somehow makes you better than everyone else. God didn't say shit, some bigoted asshole did and because HE said "god said it" you morons didn't even bother to question it. You make me sick. If you're god doesn't like homosexuals then he shouldn't have made so many of them. And after seeing you I can see he just loves idiotic assholes.

lye54 BigBlueagain • Thursday, August 25, 2016

Yes better be a religious nutjobs than a delusional person who thinks that homo have pre disposition for being gays. Please go back to school and try to get a PHD in Genetics because you are full of crap. The theory of one God makes more sense honey.

intricate lye54 • Thursday, August 25, 2016

being gay is not a disposition. being a bigot however, is. Also, if you read more carefully you can tell Blue isn't actually discrediting god, but discrediting your simplistic beliefs of what god really is.

BigBlueagain lye54 • Thursday, August 25, 2016

Here, have some more rope. Take as much as you need. :)

chaelicen lye54 • Thursday, August 25, 2016

i didn't realize you @ed me yesterday but... what... 1. i didn't bring ANY kpop idols into this 2. there are so many gay bars/clubs in korea you don't even know;; i lived in korea!! you haven't. also, homosexuality isn't widely accepted because homophobia is taught from parent to child, from teacher to student, etc. there are a few gay and even trans celebrities and recently, sehun from exo gained attention for literally saying "i like men, they make my heart flutter". gay people exist everywhere, regardless of laws. so think,, if it were a choice, wouldn't these people just stick to whatever's easier?? they can't help it. just like how you can't help but be the ignorant bigot you are.

angelca120200 chaelicen • Saturday, August 27, 2016

I havent commented back because I felt I should stay out of it but I want to make a point : There is no gay gene - in a study between identical twins only 20 percent of twins were both gay. Identical twins share the exact same copy of DNA. Its impossible for one to not have a trait that the other has But 80% had a homosexual and a heterosexual. “Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes. But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women. (Red Flags News - identical-twin-studies-prove-homosexuality-is-not-genetic) "If heterosexuality and homosexuality are determined and fixed by early childhood — and therefore mutually exclusive and unchangeable — how do we explain bisexuality or people who, suddenly in mid-life, switch from heterosexuality to homosexuality (or vice versa)? We can't." Also a comment was that God created homosexuality,pedophilia, and necrophilia... Now think about this for one second? Why did he destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. The men who appeared at the door of Lot wanted the angels for unnatural relations They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.” 6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. (Genesis 19:5-7) Does this mean God is cruel? No the sin was so much they had to destroy the city. because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the Lord against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.” Genesis 19:13 God couldn't have created unnatural sexual preferences because it contradicts his character" 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. " John 3:16

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Xq28 marker on the X chromosome. That's pretty specific for something you lie and say doesn't exist, don't you think? Quote all the mythology you want, you care argue facts, only deny they exist and lie about it... as you just have.

angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Would a God that sent His only son to death torture and humiliation want people to go to Hell? "The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children." (Romans 8:16) Also if you're really doubting God's existence your saying your made out of nothing? because the big bang theory says that "Somewhere between 18 and 20 billion years ago, all of the matter in the universe was compressed into a tiny space no larger than the dot on a page. This dot spun faster and faster until it exploded, thus creating the Universe and everything in it." ( angel fire - The Big Bang and the Bible) this makes no sense because matter cant be created so where did this matter come from? First law of Thermodynamics, says: "matter cannot be created or destroyed. "Why did everything come into a dot? how was there gravity? and How does the Chaos of something create something extraordinary like our earth. The Big Bang theory makes no sense. This is already becoming too long so ill end it here. This doesn't mean i hate gay people because how could you hate a person because of that. I'm simply saying don't just accept something because a doctor or scientist says it. Find stuff out yourself and once you start doubting some of these famous theories youll see exactly where God is. With Love...

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

The Judeo/Christian/Muslim Abrahamic "god" named Yahweh, Jehovah, Adonai, Allah is a mythological character that people still believe in therefore it is referred to as religion. It does not change the fact that the gene that predisposes people to homosexuality has been proven to exist or that your god is a blood soaked murderer for killing them in the past. Any more questions?

angelca120200 BigBlueagain • Saturday, August 27, 2016

You still haven't refuted any of my claims only brought up new ones. Have you even seen the human body . i'm pretty sure that shows enough. Its natural that only a male and female can perfectly fit. It also shows that there is only heterosexual conception. don't you think there would actually be some part that "evolved" if men and men or women and women were meant to be together? and by the xq28 marker on the x chromosome do you mean the one that was studied in the 1990's by Dean Hamer- this has already been disproven: In 1993, biologist Dean Hamer of the National Cancer Institute found that in 40 pairs of homosexual brothers, 33 of them had the same set of DNA sequences in a part of the chromosome called, “Xq28.” This has caused many homosexual leaders to proclaim this “evidence” and demand respect and acceptance of homosexuality because of this apparent genetic trait. However, in late June of 1995, reports were confirmed that Dean Hamer was being investigated by the Office of Research Integrity at the Department of Health and Human Services. Reports found that Hamer may have selectively reported his research and data – which has led many to question the credibility of his research. Furthermore, in the late ’90s, a team of researchers at the University of Western Ontario in Canada found no trace or evidence of the “gay” gene in homosexual men. The study found that the region of the X chromosome known as “Xq28” has nothing to do with the sexual “orientation” of a person. Neurologist George Rice studied the DNA of 52 pairs of homosexual brothers and found that their Xq28 sequences were no more similar than what might happen from sheer chance.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

This was 3 years ago. And yeah, I did disprove it. Then there's the fact that homosexuality is present to some extent in ALL mammals. It exists in nature, it is part of human sexuality. And you are a bigot for oppressing people simply because of what they are. No religion can absolve you of this sin against humanity.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Oh and the next time you want to copy from Wikipedia? Check the foot notes and make sure they're up to date ;)

angelca120200 BigBlueagain • Saturday, August 27, 2016

the studies were in the 1990's. that's when it was "Discovered" and where it was disproved - show me exactly where and who studied it and you'll realize i'm right - don't be petty and just say its not. Also you say God is a mythological character but if that is true how can you say it is a sin against humanity? where does your moral compass come from? or maybe you believe you shouldnt kill? oh sorry thats in the Bible my bad:)

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Where did it come from to be in your bible? From "god"? No. Morality comes from man. Religion is used to justify immoral acts by an invented morality. For example: Murdering people because of their sexual orientation. And if you're not educated enough to find beyond Wikia then I'll leave you to rot in your superstition. It's not like you're ever going to change your so-called mind anyway. You're too steeped in hate.

intricate angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

those studies are 25 years old... there's loads of studdies from even the past 2 years that completely and utterly refute all the claims you made... it took me 1 search with only the words "homosexuality" and "genetic" to find them... the first page of hits is filled with them. Now explain to me why the ducks of the world have a number of homosexuals among them? Did the ducks decide to be homosexual? Did duck society inspire them to be homosexual? What about the other animals? Do they feel oppressed because of their sexuality?

angelca120200 intricate • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Instead of asking more questions and essentially degrading yourself to the status of an animal why don't u tell me how the twin study was disproved you said there's a bunch if articles on it but you haven't put anything specific.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Tell you what. Why don't you name for us the specific gene that promotes heterosexuality. We've shown you the one you say doesn't exist. Show us the one that does. No mythology. No dogma. No doubletalk. Show me proof that we are genetically disposed to being heterosexual and we didn't just choose it because everyone said we should. I'll wait.

intricate angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

there's a more recent twin study, with a larger sample size that found the exact opposite? I mean.. come on.. i exactly explained to you how to find that paper... but you obviously didn't... you simply refuse to acknowledge that the things you say simply aren't true.... you know what that is? that's pride, and do you know what that is? a deadly sin...

angelca120200 BigBlueagain • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Also if you believe that morality cines from man. .u believe in moral relativity which basically states what's good for you is good for you and what's good for me is good for me so anyone can say what's good for me is the murder of children and you can't say that its wrong because that is their moral code. That's why the Bible gives clear guidelines on good and bad. And when exactly did I say I hate gay people or anyone. The Bible tells us to love all people and Christ even carried that out by loving the social outcasts that people hated . and in case you think all Christians scream at people that there going to hell , their not. The Bible tells us that in love we say truth. So in love I'm telling you to not believe lies even if the liar has a phd

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Oh it gives clear guidelines? So I can sell my sister into slavery? What price would you suggest I ask?

intricate angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

but.. it doesn't... it says it's bad to eat pork, but i bet you still eat pork don't you? "oh it's the old testament, we don't need to follow", well... homosexuality was outlawed in the OT too... so why do you adhere to that? I can tell you why.... because it's good for you... you're exactly the same as all the rest of us.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

And if my gf stops a fight I'm in by grabbing the other guys balls, do I have to chop off her hand like I would if we were married?

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Oh and I REALLY like my boxer briefs that wick away moisture, but they're made of two different materials. Why doesn't god want me to keep my balls dry?

intricate BigBlueagain • Saturday, August 27, 2016

oh that's OT, you can ignore that stuff.... also stop worrying about that beef stroganoff, not being allowed to mix milk and flesh is OT.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Now, if I invade a city I know I'm supposed to kill all the children and women who have had sex and only take the virgins for myself, but I REALLY like women who already know what they're doing. Are you sure I can't just spare one? Wouldn't God be ok with that?

BigBlueagain intricate • Saturday, August 27, 2016

So if my dad wants to stone me for talking back to him as a teenager, he can't do that? Whew. That's a relief. So... basically... Bible morality is pick and choose, you don't HAVE to follow everything, right?

intricate BigBlueagain • Saturday, August 27, 2016

no that's bigot morality.. there's plenty of good things in the bible.. lots of stories with good lessons... but there's definitely a great deal in there that you simply can't take at face value. Which goes for any book that allegedly contains guidelines on how to live, which is why there are thousands of books to explain what such books try to say. Which is why there's dedicated career paths coupled with a decade or more of full-time education to become an expert in how to educate people on how to interpret what those books say, which is why normal people shouldn't go about and spew around just any old bit from those books, it's fucking embarrassing to anyone who knows how to appreciate what good those books can bring.

angelca120200 BigBlueagain • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Heterosexuality isn't a gene its just natural because as I've said before only heterosexual s can reproduce but homosexuality is unnatural because two of the same gender can not make life if there were only homosexual people on this earth we would die out. And u say there's a new study tell me the person who conducted the study and what was the sample size so I can show you that its been disproven

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

I think you're lying. I think the Christian agenda TOLD us we ALL HAD to be heterosexual. I think you're lying and I'm daring you to use science to prove me wrong.

intricate angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Unless you're really an angel like you say you are and have gone through years and years of comprehensive education to learn and understand what your bible tries to tell you, you're just a fraud, a parrot who copies other parrots who are just as ignorant about the bible as you are.

BigBlueagain intricate • Saturday, August 27, 2016

I have a better idea. If you think it would suck if it was done to you, don't do it. Yeah, that about sums up morality for me. Glad we figured that out.

intricate angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

so god created unnatural beings? Hah! get a load of that! If it really is unnatural it's man made, and if it's man made you're saying men created homosexual ducks, know what that is? blasphemy... So not only are you full of pride, you're also blasphemous.... damn... i'm so glad i'm not you....

intricate BigBlueagain • Saturday, August 27, 2016

well of course... thing is.. there's plenty of stuff that those holy books can teach you that are good for everyone, they're just a different way of looking at it, even though they'll arrive at the same result as other ways. But it's people like angelca120200 here who believe certain things that are obviously not good for everyone are good for everyone. Which is why problems arise.

BigBlueagain intricate • Saturday, August 27, 2016

I do know people who use religion as the framework for their spirituality. But I know far more like this bitch who use it as a way to try and control others.

angelca120200 intricate • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Your obviously looking at Leveticus and the Levetical laws. Maybe if u did a little more research you'd realize its not pick and choose. It divides into 3 different types of laws- ceremonial, judicial/civil and moral - Ceremonial God’s chosen people, Israel was given various ceremonial regulations in order to separate her from the surrounding gentile nations. This included the practice of circumcision

angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Judicial The judicial / civil law pertains to those laws which are culturally specific to ancient Israel. Laws falling into this category included penalties for various crimes, rules for business transactions and guidelines for the treatment of servants and slaves

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

how conVEEEEENyent.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

So which of these tells you to murder people and gives you the justification for it?

angelca120200 BigBlueagain • Saturday, August 27, 2016

moral law describes God’s commandments which are binding regardless of cultural contingencies. The moral law includes the ten commandments, which are given in Exodus 20. According to the Bible, we have an awareness of God’s moral laws written on our hearts (e.g. Romans 2) but we have all violated this standard and thus fall under the righteousness condemnation of God (Romans 3:23). Galatians 3:13-14 describes God’s solution: 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.” 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit

angelca120200 intricate • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Okay u said If you think it would suck if it was done to you, don't do it.? Where do you think that came from? Luke 6:31 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you. Matthew 7:12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. You brought upa Bible verse - so many moral codes are from the Holy Bible

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

So bacially excuses to claim what was there in the first place and then a magical get out of jail free card. And you people actually believe this? Really?

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

That existed before your bible did. Don't you get it? Christianity is like the Borg. It never came across another religion it didn't destroy and/or assimilate. You're working with 2nd hand (or more) dogma.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Saturday, August 27, 2016

Hell, you can't even claim Christmas. It's a conglomeration of several different Winter Solstice celebrations to include Yule and Saternalia (btw, a week of gluttony and orgies? I'm not forgiving you guys for getting rid of that).

intricate angelca120200 • Sunday, August 28, 2016

So you treat others disrespectfully and with a humongous amount of disdain, but are still surprised you're treated that way huh?

intricate BigBlueagain • Sunday, August 28, 2016

You're such a paragon of virtue....

intricate BigBlueagain • Sunday, August 28, 2016

lol that was meant for you know who.

BigBlueagain intricate • Sunday, August 28, 2016

I know. But, oddly enough, the sarcasm and statement fit me as well ;)

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Sunday, August 28, 2016

Here's what I believe. You are a coward. You find homosexuality icky, you don't like it, so you hate those who are homosexual but you're too much of a coward to own your own thoughts and perspectives. So, where most would argue with you, they wouldn't DARE argue with "god" (at least in your so-called mind). You're like that kid on the playground. "Teacher said not to do this, If you do this I'ma tell teacher"... the only difference between you and that brat is that there's actually a teacher for that snot nosed fetus to run to.

angelca120200 BigBlueagain • Sunday, August 28, 2016

i repeat when did i say i hate gays? and you're saying im too much of a coward to own my own thoughts and perspectives? i thought you wanted science and proof but fine here are my thoughts: I believe it is a sin to be homosexual but it's also a sin to hate anyone. and yeah i believe in God why? it's not just because my parents told me too or they teach it in Bible school it's because when I was in the worst moments of my life, God revealed himself and His Love in my life and did everything get automatically better? No but God gave me strength to live another day. The reason i replied to the first comment is because i feel a responsibility to share that love. I don't feel entitled or better than anyone else but i don't want anyone to feel the way i did when i was on the brink of wanting to do something horrible because it hurt like hell. and I promise you if you don't have God than when your alone and going through the hardest point in your life you wont know what to do. You might not go to the extreme but you'll never feel content or fully loved. I can say this from experience but i hope you don't have too. So here's this if you read nothing else just read this: 1 John 4:16 “…we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.” I'm not saying this with hate but love, remember there is someone praying for you and loving you.

BigBlueagain angelca120200 • Sunday, August 28, 2016

Wrong. I went through the worst part of my life all by my self. It's just a matter of putting your big boy pants on and getting it done. You can say you don't hate all you want but your actions and what you say speak a lot louder than your claims. Your god is one among, literally, thousands. And there are three major religions that all claim to follow the same god and kill each other over who's got the more "real" claim. And yes, it is hate. You hate that two people of the same sex can love the way YOU think only members of the opposite sex can. So, you say that they aren't really like that, they just chose to be. You claim that "god" is against it and therefore it should not be allowed to exist. You regulate them to a status as inferior to you because you use excuses to justify your belief that they do not deserve the same rights you do. You look down on them, try to force them to be something they are not, oppress them and deny them rights you claim for yourself. All in the name of "love"? Riiiiiiiiiiight.

intricate angelca120200 • Sunday, August 28, 2016

most people here believe in god, it's just that you say such ungodly things about other people. You make hateful remarks and deny it at the same time by hiding behind biblical terminology. Most of what's in the bible has little to do with god, and a whole lot more with your fear of those who are different. That's the only real sin here. You deny god's creation, that's blasphemous in itself, a whole lot more than a guy literally fucking another guy in the ass will ever be.

chaelicen angelca120200 • Sunday, August 28, 2016

hello i'm back i did not realize we got more homophobic comments!! you're homophobic and essentially, you internally hate lgbtq+/saga people BECAUSE you don't accept their sexuality. your only evidence is literally a religious book and while i'm a christian, that's not FACT. science is fact, something everyone can agree is true and solid. homosexuality!! isn't!! a!! f-ing!! choice!!

chaelicen • Sunday, August 28, 2016

love is love. there's nothing different between hetereosexual people and homosexual people except for the sole fact that one group likes people of the same gender and the other likes people of the other gender romantically. what's so hard to understand? is you being straight a choice? no. likewise, being gay isn't a choice and if something isn't a choice, then IT'S NATURAL. meaning,, god made us this way.

chaelicen • Sunday, August 28, 2016

additionally, super hard to believe that everything christians say [who use bible as evidence?? tf] is right and whatnot because of you know, the kkk and what one might call "radical" christians.

intricate chaelicen • Monday, August 29, 2016

unfortunately there's fundamentalists and extremists in every group.

hiroonakamura • Tuesday, August 23, 2016

why does he always wear a cap nowadays?

_Dalnim hiroonakamura • Tuesday, August 23, 2016

Probably because of his hair xD . He promised Donghae not to cut his hair till Hae will comeback from army but Leeteuk told him to cut it. So he cut only the sides and now it may look a little weird. :D

hiroonakamura _Dalnim • Friday, August 26, 2016

haha wow! he wants to not cut his hair for like 2years? madness!

_Dalnim hiroonakamura • Friday, August 26, 2016

This is Kim Heechul after all xD He just have to keep it next 11 months :D I believe he will make it unless Teuk tells him to cut it xD

_Dalnim • Friday, August 26, 2016

*has omg xD

ladamenoire • Tuesday, August 23, 2016

Nooo. Heenim, keep being you.

manupecks • Tuesday, August 23, 2016

Well, he should be careful. People are like that, one second they adore and they you have even the smallest mistake and they're ready to set you on fire

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