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T.O.P officially stripped of his military police rank + more details about re-enlistment

By jennywill   Thursday, June 8, 2017   160,987   9,186   0
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Big Bang's T.O.P has been stripped of his military police title.


The prosecutors submitted the notice to the 42nd division of the 4th squad this June 8. As he is currently recovering in the ICU for his drug overdose, T.O.P will be heading back home once he has recovered instead of back to his squadron.


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If T.O.P is sentenced to over 1 year and 6 months of imprisonment, he will be forcibly expelled from the army and will not be able to serve. Anything less, and he will be evaluated in order to determine if he is fit to serve in the military again. If he is evaluated to be unfit, then he will have to enlist in the reserved forces as a social/public service worker.

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Erisadesu Sunday, June 11, 2017

Well in my country where army is also compulsory, men would have to prefer jail, because you can buy out your days in jail with money, but you can't buy your way out from the army. He is rich he can pays his way out of prison...if the legal system works the same.

LBZBeast Friday, June 9, 2017

Many of the views here from the West (I presume they comefrom the West because they look down on Asia) are very condescending, and even bigoted: "SK is 10 years late" "backward" "unmodern" etc. The West has nothing to show for all its liberalism and "progressive" and "modern" views but decadence, dissipation, and dissolution. TOP was on training and he committed drug overdose: are military personnel in the West on training supposed to take drugs? how would that figure out when they're on active duty? Asian societies are hierarchical, strict, paternalistic respectful of tradition and authoirity, and these have stand them in good stead. Technically SK is at war with the North and any time, war could break out again: how could the South survive with those on enlistment taking drugs? The WEst prides itself in its self-proclaimed capacity for tolerance--so why can't the West tolerate other views, other traditions. The West is not tolerant, but bigoted and smug and arrogant and narcissistic. It condemns others and exalts itself. That's selfish and stupid.

Eithra LBZBeast Friday, June 9, 2017

Because he was witch hunted. That was backward. -_-

Eithra LBZBeast Friday, June 9, 2017

And paternal societies look down on women. I know, I come from one.

teleri LBZBeast Friday, June 9, 2017

Look, fool - there are areas where SK simply IS behind the times - specifically their attitudes towards women, homosexuals, marijuana (vs alcohol). Human rights issues, all of them. Being hierarchical & patriarchal is NOT a POSITIVE. Also, TOP smoked his joints months before he went into the military police. So you can't even get your facts straight. BTW I've been criticizing my country where warranted for decades.

Winston Friday, June 9, 2017

I guess Asian countries are very ANTI-drug maybe because of how the European nations bring in drugs like opium into the region, (when they knew it was bad for them, and they needed a country to offload it to and sell to), People saw how drugs like Opium destroyed many lives, due to addiction, which led to gambling and stealing to feed to the addiction, and rich families have gone bankrupt due to opium and such. Even though opium does have its uses in limited dosage like as a painkiller in the war. as with marijuana i think the perception of it is still very negative in Asian countries. so i dun think any asian countries, China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, India etc will make marijuana legal anytime soon.

Eithra Winston Friday, June 9, 2017

Weed is illegal in India, but we don't witch hunt people who use it. And we don't really enforce that law.

Winston Eithra Friday, June 9, 2017

its just too hard to enforce it in india i guess, too many people and too few enforcers, i dunno how bad the situation is in India, but i think the police probably has other more pressing things to handle.

teleri Winston Friday, June 9, 2017

Oh, I think you are wrong. It's only been paired up with opium rather recently. There's a very long history of marijuana use as medicinal in Asia. I believe you are correct about the drug laws in Asia being passed to stop the trafficking, and certainly in China OPIUM was a huge problem - Britain used it to exert control over China in the late 1800s. But marijuana is NOT an opiate, does not have the problems opium does, and science is proving that. So yep, once the facts become accepted I see Asia divorcing the two & lifting a lot of restrictions on marijuana.

iris7 Friday, June 9, 2017

Korean laws are 60 years behind our times. Prostitution is illegal and based on simon and martina's video on the issue, there are even vans at the side of the roads where people can buy sex for cheap. Exposing the whole country to all kinds of diseases due to not regulating the sex industry is fine and noone protests but when 1 person buys drugs for his personal use, harming noone but himself, all sorts of people shun him and bully him to the point that he tries to end his life. I'm not trying to change the subject here, I just wanted to point out how weird the moral stardands of SK society appear to be.

Winston iris7 Friday, June 9, 2017

you have to understand that just 50-60 years ago, S.Korea was just a backwater country ravaged by the War, (WW2 and Korean war), and that they grew to a developed nation in under 1 generation of people, a lot of the grandparents and parents lived through the 60s and 70s, where its illegal for boys to have long hair, and girls to have short skirts. Even as of now, topics like Gay and Sex are forbidden on TV, and Swaying ur hips forward and backwards in an MV will get it a 19+ rating already. I guess it will take time and many many years to change mindset.

galaxyifan Thursday, June 8, 2017

But if it's illegal, it's illegal. You can't criticize another country's laws like that just because we don't do it this way in your country, you call them close minded but look at you. You need to respect laws, and if you don't, well you get what you deserve and that's it. It's funny because when Iron got caught smoking weed people were using the argument I'm using here, but now that TOP got caught? Everyone wants the poor oppa free. Look, I'm not saying that he deserves hate or anything, but justice is justice, if other people got into jail for smoking weed, then he gets a punishment as well because he is no different, because you should respect your country's laws. With that being said, hating on him and insulting him won't lead anyone to anywhere, boy just came out of the hospital let the authorities do their thing and stop trying to act as a judge and say that he did it for attention.

teleri galaxyifan Thursday, June 8, 2017

Yes you CAN criticize another country's laws!!! Whatever gives you the idea that you can't???? I'll agree that one should respect the law, and be prepared to face consequences if one breaks them, but that hardly means one should not shout out against injustice - which means criticizing unjust laws that are based on bad science, or are racist, or sexist, etc! NO ONE who gets busted for smoking a joint is getting 'justice' because the law itself is unjust, everywhere! It's unjust in SK, in the US, anywhere. Period. He'll have to face the CONSEQUENCES of breaking an unjust law. THAT's the biggest danger of smoking marijuana BTW. That it is illegal.

galaxyifan teleri Thursday, June 8, 2017

i meant you can't criticize it by saying that your country does it better, read my whole comment

teleri galaxyifan Thursday, June 8, 2017

And yet, I did no such thing. The US might be on the road to legalization, but we've gotten saddled with a toxic attorney general who thinks everyone picked up for a drug violation should be thrown in jail. So in fact SK is more lenient as a nation since most first-time offenders only get a fine for possession.... Now it is a fact that public opinion in the US, Europe, Canada is much more lenient about pot than in SK, that's true.

ggwtert teleri Thursday, June 8, 2017

Eww drug user. Don't you push your shitty legalize weed shit law into other countries laws. we dont want weed to be legalize. If you want your country to filled by drug users fine but dont you push that law into us. addict.!

intricate galaxyifan Thursday, June 8, 2017

so you deserve to go to jail for smoking a cig huh? It's fair enough to say those are the consequences, but nobody deserves to go to jail because they used something that only affects themselves..

galaxyifan teleri Thursday, June 8, 2017

idk what's up with you lol, i said something and you attacked me over something i didn't say and now you're arguing for nothing get a life

galaxyifan intricate Thursday, June 8, 2017

i never talked about cigs or whatever, i only said you should respect laws but i'm not even going to bother, i'm done with trolls

woopsiedaisie ggwtert Friday, June 9, 2017

Humans have been using marijuana and hemp for more than 10,000 years, mainly as medicine. It's not just recreational.

intricate galaxyifan Friday, June 9, 2017

no, in the third sentence of your OP you specifically said people deserve to go to jail for disrespecting the law. How should I interpret that if not by assuming you mean that you should be punished according to the law if you break any of them regardless of whether or not those laws are ethical?

teleri ggwtert Friday, June 9, 2017

Hey, troll, did you even bother to READ my post? Oh, yeah, rhetorical question...

intricate ggwtert Friday, June 9, 2017

SK is already full of drug users, everybody is taking alcohol. Imagine if everybody was taking weed instead, there'd be a -lot- less violence due to intoxication.

ggwtert woopsiedaisie Friday, June 9, 2017

ofc they would use it for recreational purpose as if all people are sick to use it as a medicine. smh

ggwtert intricate Friday, June 9, 2017

two wrongs doesn't make a thing right. Less violence is still violence. hahaand the law is unethical they are preventing people on being drug addicts so that law is ethical.

intricate ggwtert Friday, June 9, 2017

the nature of the law concerning marijuana prevents people from using viable and safe alternatives to, for example, stress reducing medication. So in that sense it is endangering people by forcing them to use drugs that they might not need otherwise (such as TOP's case where he's using it as a stress reliever, but isn't allowed to so turns to other far more dangerous prescription drugs instead). Therefore the law is causing harm. Also, because of lack of regulations concerning alcohol a lot of damage is caused because of drug abuse as well. Drunk driving, domestic violence, harassment are all mostly the result of alcohol. Yet, the law does not provide compensation to society for all that damage neither in the form of taxes on alcohol, nor proper fines and other punishments for those who cause harm under its influence.

iluv1n2d Thursday, June 8, 2017

I think Korea needs to be a little flexible with their sentences man, a year and a half? Just make him do military for an extra year or something.

galaxyifan iluv1n2d Thursday, June 8, 2017

but military isn't a punishment, some people have it as a job, it doesn't make sense to give him a job as punishment

teleri iluv1n2d Thursday, June 8, 2017

He's NOT been convicted nor sentenced yet!!!! Sheesh! Judging by most such cases, he'll get a fine & probation, people!

iluv1n2d galaxyifan Thursday, June 8, 2017

Not if you hear the stories i hear my friends who had to do the military service in Korea haha...it sounds like they are in prison. yeah, those who do have a job with the military have better position, they aren't "regular" soldiers.

iluv1n2d galaxyifan Thursday, June 8, 2017

relax yourself, it's was hypothetical. I KNOW he's not convicted fool, allkpop said" IF he's sentenced over a year and a half of imprisonment , i am responding to the IF part of it. Look at you with your little "fine and probation" that's not punishment, that's juvenile.

melon iluv1n2d Thursday, June 8, 2017

It's only fair that he gets punished equally as everyone else who did the same thing.

iluv1n2d melon Thursday, June 8, 2017

i agree, those who commit the crime, should do the time. No exceptions. No matter who it is.

melon iluv1n2d Friday, June 9, 2017

I really hope he gets well :(. I think it's no big deal. caught doing something wrong accept punishment and it's over with. The problem is all these netizen and haters pushing him to death

Whoooo Thursday, June 8, 2017

Im kind of scared for him since he has to goto jail for over a year. I know he did break the law and needs to get punished but top in jail with other criminals scares me.

teleri Whoooo Thursday, June 8, 2017

He doesn't have to go to jail for a year. Most likely NO jail time as first time offenders in SK normally only get a fine! He's out of the police force now & the question will be whether he's found fit for regular army MS or has to do public service/social work.

Whoooo teleri Thursday, June 8, 2017

it says he is going to jail in the artical.

teleri Whoooo Thursday, June 8, 2017

No it doesn't. Read it again.... It simply states military/police policy (in I admit a rather confusing manner). IE, a person in his situation, IF he's sentenced to jail for MORE than a year, will be unable to serve (dishonorable discharge I suppose) but if under that (BTW including NO jail time) he could serve in the Army if fit & if not fit then the Reserve forces. Read carefully....

Mehrvigne Whoooo Friday, June 9, 2017

Not to make light of a situation like this, but maybe he could take the Paul McCartney approach. He got arrested in Japan for smuggling marijuana into the country and when he was arrested, he had all the inmates singing his songs with him. Japanese jail didn't like that too much and decided to release him early on good behavior. I don't condone drug use and consequences are consequences.

Whoooo Mehrvigne Friday, June 9, 2017

lol can u imagine top teaching the prison inmates how to dance big bang songs?

ellazh12 Thursday, June 8, 2017

i dont really know but don't alot of other korean artists smoke weed too? like jay park and alot of other k-hiphop rappers?

doctor_10 ellazh12 Thursday, June 8, 2017

i think so too, it's just he got caught...

teleri doctor_10 Thursday, June 8, 2017

Jay Park is an American citizen, remember....Lives in Seattle where weed is legal (at the state level only of course...)

galaxyifan ellazh12 Thursday, June 8, 2017

Jay Park confirmed that he didn't smoke weed and that it was false reports when koreaboo said that he did... People like to say that ''many korean artists smoke weed'' but that's not true, not that many artists smoke weed it's not as popular as in the US (that doesn't mean there isn't anyone who smokes weed)

teleri galaxyifan Thursday, June 8, 2017

I don't have a clue if Jay Park ever smoked marijuana. Just saying he's not Korean but American, & lives in a state where it's legal, that's all.

galaxyifan teleri Thursday, June 8, 2017

I wasn't even replying to you, I was replying to the other commenter.

joojoo1 ellazh12 Friday, June 9, 2017

Just because they are rappers doesnt mean they do drugs lol. Like Sean from JINUSEAN there are caring rappers that take care of their body lol. :) Not saying you said that but I thought you meant that a little. Sorry if I offended you lol

Wonderscore Thursday, June 8, 2017

Important question: If it was known that TOP was diagnosed with depression and insomnia and anxiety, how was he permitted to enlist in the first place? For the psych evaluation, are there only specific things that would prevent someone from enlisting? Such as schizophrenia or other such extreme psychological conditions? Is there a psych evaluation?? I was just curious if anyone might know what someone must have in order to be considered unfit for duty. Also, #StayStrongTOP ! <3

doctor_10 Wonderscore Thursday, June 8, 2017

i don't really think they take depression that serious, it's sad..i guess that's why they have high suicide rates..also, wasn't there any drug test done before the enlistment? like it seems all wrong..

teleri doctor_10 Thursday, June 8, 2017

Urine/blood tests only - no hair tests. Hair tests are known to be unreliable & cannot pinpoint time or whether a substance has been ingested. That's why they aren't used in the US, for instance.

Iamalittledai5y teleri Thursday, June 8, 2017

They take attempted suicide seriously. People who have attempted suicide can only serve as public social worker and be on the reserves. Same goes for people with serious mental instability. Depression on is own unfortunately is not serious enough. Things like Bipolar and Schizophrenia are taken seriously.

teleri Iamalittledai5y Thursday, June 8, 2017

Hopefully this is true - should be.

Iamalittledai5y teleri Thursday, June 8, 2017

Happened to a close friend of mine. He was really freaked because he had train and share barracks with guys with serious mental illnesses. A few talked to themselves. He is also gay so they kinda knew it so they kept their distance from him. I was unable to contact him the entire time. It was a really tough time. I do not envy those guys at all but I respect the troops who protect the country of South Korea being a military brat myself with family who are currently serving.

teleri Iamalittledai5y Thursday, June 8, 2017

I'm retired Navy - I totally respect those serving in SK. I wish that we in the US had some sort of similar public service/military service requirement for those just out of HS cause I think it would really help on so many levels.

Eithra teleri Friday, June 9, 2017

No it isn't helpful and it's a violation of human rights. -_-

teleri Eithra Friday, June 9, 2017

Don't agree with that at all. As long as there's service options (ie not military draft) I think it's very helpful for young people. IF it were applied to all of them! I do have to say, that currently, since we (the US) seem to want to start little wars all over the universe, maybe no one should be forced to do MILITARY service....but Peace Corps, Coast Guard, some of the other volunteer groups all over the country - yes indeed I think that's a great idea!

aaaanneee Thursday, June 8, 2017

What he needs most right now is support. From his friends, family, and also his fans. What's done, is done. It can't be changed. I hope VIPs will always stand by his side and help him recover. Fighting! :)

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