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Would Red Velvet reach Twice if....

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  1. jagerjack

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    ...they had more members? And my own answer is YES.

    I believe the only thing Red Velvet lacks in presence. They are talented, they have good songs. But they are just not as fun to watch on varieties as Twice, and not so charming. More members would fix that. It is kinda obvious, more members, more likely someone say some funny stuff on TV and so. And I actually think SM realised it at some point and added 5th member for that reason. Cause as were they were pretty boring.
     
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    I'm not too sure,maybe with more members they would be but I think red velvet are doing really well! Twice is just a massive wall at the moment,and I don't think more members would help.
     
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    i thought I would disagree but it actually makes a lot of sense. SNSD had nine members, SJ had 13, BTS has 7, EXO has 9, Twice has 9, meanwhile smaller groups are popular, but not the top of their field (Bigbang is an exception).
     
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    Well, to me, RV are a pleasure to watch. They are funny, charming, quirky and very down to earth. Their is nothing "boring" about most of their shows. Especially the two seasons of the Level Up Project. RV have all the presence they need.

    Twice is perhaps Korea's NNG because their music and charm carters to Korea more than other GG's.

    Besides, larger groups means less screen time for the members as there are more to film.
     
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    Yeah, it makes a lot more sense when you compare. Sistar, 2ne1, Girl's Day, Brown Eyed Girls, f(x), Miss A - they all have two things in common. They were close to number 1 but never hit that spot and they had 4-5 members.
     
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    not saying I disagree but yeri was supposed to debut with them anyways so this part isn't really needed. but yeah, more members = a bigger presence, which is a given
     
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    Naw there are GGs bigger & smaller size then Twice, yet they still own the crown

    Twice are the total package and have a certain presence that RV doesn’t, which isn’t a bad thing since they have a demographic they’re good at too
     
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    Look, I didn't just say other groups with more members, I said Red Velvet with more members. Because it is not the only thing that matters. The total package is what matters.
     
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    Doesn’t matter, Twice are still where they are for way more then just the amount of members they have. Though who exactly are among those said numbers is a huge reason as to how they are so huge at all, let alone compared to every other GG out now.

    Being able to surpass Twice is far less trivial then just group size.
     
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    They don’t need more members to reach twice.

    I mean they are already approaching

    All we need is a jpn debut now
     
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    Twice are still a wall, though Red Velvet have definitely risen
     
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    The only thing twice has over Rv is their physicals

    Irene and red velvet are already getting the brand value and cfs

    And the digitals are pretty close so meh
     
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    If red velvet focused on 'red' songs and ditched the mature side, I think that would benefit their sales. Korea loves their bubblegum pop, smiley girl groups.
    But I hope they stick with their current pattern, I really appreciate their musical duality.

    I agree about the thing about the number of members. Also, whoever directs Twice's music videos and styles Twice does a really good job, probably a little better than whoever is in charge of red velvet. I've never seen Twice in a bad outfit, ever.
    The people behind Twice know exactly what they're doing, props to them :) they have created a real money maker. Marketing is everything in this industry.
     
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    Twice in general are getting more CFs, and Twice have yet to come back so of course for now RV would have higher monthly brand value

    Twice also still leads in digitals

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    Not downplaying RV since they’re definitely killing it & doing a fantastic job, but again Twice are still a wall, and that’s objectiveness not bias
     
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    Big Bang and 2NE1 are the exceptions ;)
     
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    It's not just a matter of numbers.

    TWICE fills an entirely different void than .a group like RED VELVET.

    This is why I've always argued TWICE's simplicity and fun girlish accessibility has been their greatest asset.

    Groups with a more mature outlook and feel will never connect on that scale.

    I say this as someone who loves both groups.
     

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