Why doesn't Big Hit let Suga write more songs for BTS rather than relying on these Western writers?

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    That's why their songs haven't got any soul or their own auteurship now. They have been so much influenced by trendy Western/ American songwriters that there's no special quality that makes them their own. Fucking sad, really.
     
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    Maybe because his songs dont fit the direction that BTS is going in?
    They are going into a lighter and happier direction
    Yoongi's songs are pretty heavy hitting
     
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    Yeah, and this so called "lighter and happier" direction has gotten stale pretty quick.

    It's one thing trying to gain a new fan base, it's another thing selling your soul for it.
     
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    they can keep the happy sound they're going for but i wish they'd experiment a bit more cause it's getting stale
     
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    I mean a lot of kpop groups have utilized western composers for their music, but not all of these western writers/composers do happy stuff.

    There are some western composers that write pretty dark stuff but it would make sense why some artists refuse to use these kinds of concepts because their audience appeals to the lighter happy stuff.

    I wouldn't mind if Yoongi made his own album with his heavy dark stuff tbh.
     
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    For me, their new music lack connection. When a artist writes about their own experiences or feelings it feels more emotional. The artists connection to their music translates to the audience experience. When idols sing about love or partying, it feels empty to me. I enjoy a good dance song occasionally but I prefer to be moved by Art. Music is an art form also. I also think being unable to freely express themselves affects them as artists, especially Suga. BTS should take a break from touring/promoting to allow them to collaborate and be more creative.
     
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    If you want sad, stream Mono.
     
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    Didn't RM write the Korean lyrics for Boy With Luv? He changed 80% of the lyrics.
     
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    Exacty but this fandom doesn't want to admit it. BTS' trademark has never been the pop-ish happy go lucky songs. It's either been the more edgy tracks or the heavy tracks and the more symbolic and thematic concepts.

    Bighit knows perfectly well pop is not as popular in the west, they also know that BTS' special and most suitable concept is either hiphop or the more heavy concepts and genres with a lot of storytelling. They are cutting all of that out and for what? When this is what made so many people stan them in the first place. It lowkey does feel like they're holding them back. Hoseok even said recently that they had discussions about the title track for Persona and hinted that at first not everyone wanted it to be the title track but at the end they decided on it overall. Obviously it's very likely that members gravitate towards a different image and genres than what bighit seems to think is general public friendly or image friendly or whatever.
     
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    Don't worry, they will be more free next year after Jin enlists.

    And they have almost three months break before their next concert, so...
     
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    So any artist who releases happy songs sold their soul for it? Aren't they allowed to just want to release something happier?
     
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    It might be stale for you...
    But that happier direction got them this...


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    I don’t know but I would like to hear more songs from him for BTS.
     
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    I'm not a BlackPink fan. I'm not a fan of any particular group. I'm only a fan of good pop music, and good music in general-- of music that stirs the soul.
     
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    eh no it is not stale at all
    it's just that people shy away from happy lighthearted music
    Truth is everyone just wants them to go back to doing comfort music that they can relate too because their lives arent colourful at all
     
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    Never mentioned anything about stability.
     
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    You're free to listen to Dark and Wild era. Thank you. Or you can unstan...

    I am perfectly happy with all their concepts. Light, dark whatever...

    And ain't Fake Love dark enough for you though? You want more angst?

    You are reading too much between the lines of what Hoseok said.
    Forgive me, but you are acting like managermy. And I'm no company stan either.
     
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    No, I didn't say or implied those things. I love "happy" or life-affirming music, if it is good.
     
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    You can't honestly not try to be at least a bit objective and realize this is also thanks to the promo they are getting internationally of course, they will gain more fans if they are exposed to a wider audience and attend shows etc, however it's still not proof that if they went in a more creatively free direction and a different genre that they wouldn't have done EVEN better than that. There's a reason why none of the songs after MDR managed to break its longevity on hot100. lmao that says a lot. MDR is a typical BTS song, the kind that shows their roots and fits their own style the most and no surprise it had the best longevity even though it wasn't even a collab with a big artist whose label can give it a push, when the song matches the artists and stands out the results are always better.
     
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    No, I didn't say or thought that.

    To be fair, "comfort music" is what they are releasing now.
     
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