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Why do people judge an artist's talents by their company

Discussion in 'K-POP' started by Infire707, May 25, 2018.

  1. zedi

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    we vocal include that in Vocal but again if you want to talk about Rap it's YG thing
     
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    yeah, does not mean if you don't come from big3,you're not that talented and if you come from big3 you're talented...but never underestimate big3 talent ,they are big3 for a reason, most idols out there don't have YG swag ,SM produce many great vocalist and I'm not sure about jyp...they also called big3 bcuz many older generation are from them and have many groups
     
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    I dont think anyones hating on TWICE. They just said that to prove a point. I think TWICEs vocals are for their particular audience and thats fine.
     
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    YG is cringey when they try to have "swag" and use "finna" like no lol. This is why they won't make it in the U.S. Their music is generic and nothing special. Im sorry Im not hating on you but YG is just so overestimated. Like yes talent is good but songs are eh (thats just my opinion). (referring to new gen idols not 2NE1 or Big Bang).
     
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    I think it just your taste that don't like YG music, they can break US market if they want,...many western artist know them (mostly Bigbang ,2NE1,not sure about blackpink) Winner and ikon still making their way...I notice that some people either love or hate their swag..well for me I love their swag bcuz they don't sticking with the choreo 100% and play with the stage
     
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    But like why haven't they then? We all know that's what YG wants. .Its not that I even hate YG music cause my favorite group next to gfriend and (g)i-dle is AKMU. I just cant with the swag
     
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    YG doesnt own rap lmaoo.
     
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    it's weird when we see Big Bang here who basically dominated the market for 12 years
    and also 2ne1 also know for it
     
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    Well it depends but the big3 definitely have the most all rounded groups (there are some exceptions but for the majority this stays true). Remember that almost all from small companies got rejected from the big3 and hence they ended up where they are now. Now again some of them with great talents were rejected too but again in a smaller proportion. The quality which makes the big3 groups more successful is that they mostly have both, the visuals and the talent.
     
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    This massive level of disrespect
    you must be really delulu if you think that Jhope is better than Taemin
     
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    In Ye old days, it wasn't even BIG3=Superior, there was even considered that

    YG=Pure talent
    JYP=balanced Talent and Looks
    SM= Looks

    Of course it didn't made sense at all because there has always been idols that didn't fit those standards.... ((And It was considered that DSP would find pretty people kinda talented and Cube would look for Talented kinda pretty))

    It s strage, in general, believing that companies, small and big, are garantee of anything
     
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    In terms of dancing and vocals big 3 is superior, that doesnt mean that non big 3 cant have amazing vocalists, just look at Ailee and Hyorin but still overall Big3 is the best.
    In terms of rapping well they arent that good tho cuz the actual rappers prefer to be solo than being in a kpop group
     
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    Yeah? You hear of Dre, Snoop, Eminem? No? Rap does not belong to YG. period. Get cultured. Also BTS is known to have three rappers and trained a little with Coolio. Their "dominating" the market now arent they? Again, rap doesnt belong to YG.
     
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    Sincerely, if they even get in the west, if people see something like winner everyday it’s really cringey... like really embarassing. I like some of their hype songs. I already hear people calling them unoriginal and copycats because of the choreo. They have a good stage presence tho, fierce and everything but trying too hard sometimes
     
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    That's why they haven't broken it yet. It's because they don't want to.
     
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    Not a company stan but:
    we can all agree that
    SM is the home of the most of the best vocalists/dancers in the industry
    YG is known for having iconic and legendary rappers in KPop History
    JYP is known for creating the most megahits and super groups
    I mean if we were to agree on the what the thread is saying
    then why are there still
    TWICE talent issues
    BP vocal issues
    RV stage presence issues
    and etc
    I think that people especially in Korea just trust the Big 3 to come up with more quality acts as they have done throughout the years
    quality acts = more talent I guess in terms of Korea's perspective
     
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    Big 3 Uh lets see well tbf SM rappers and actors are just constantly assumed as garbage and i dont blame people because they mostly are however some exceptions like Tao and Taeyong in rap and D.O in acting still get hate because most of the others in the company are trash even though they are actually quite decent. and No not Really Sm is a vocal powerhouse however BTOB has better vocal than exo thats a fact. Ok YG great rappers Ikon,Big bang,Winner etc but BTS,Block B and B.A.P Rappers are far superior compared to YG'S and then there is dance eh well Seventeen is the best dance group again not form the big 3 so the superlatives
    Best vocal-BTOB(Not big 3)
    Best Rap-BAP,BTS,Block B(Not big 3)
    Best dance-Seventeen(Not big 3)
     
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    It's not YG don't want break the US market but they are choosy when comes to music in which artist they want to collab and YG don't promote their artist plus YG don't make an effort to break US market like promotion and etc bcuz the music itself can attrack the listener and not bcuz of the popularity, that's YG strategy for all artisr under YG (but I think it's a bit change lately bcuz YG started send their artist at the show)
     
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    I think YG want to attract the listener and not the artist search the listener, It's their base strategy but it's a bit change lately since YG send their artist in show
     
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    Why I don't see they are trying hard, I think I'm being blind by my fave lol
     

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