I mean this statistically, not like giving examples of a group you dont like. I mean does flop really count on the charting or on the sales or what? I have no idea what exactly a flop is, because people called some really popular songs and groups a flop because they didnt sell as many as their last song(s). for example, some people called EXID Lie a flop but it charted pretty well and sold over 500,000 copies. So how in the world is that a flop? So seriously in general terms, what is a flop even supposed to mean? Also was RaNia's Demonstrate a flop? I feel like it probably was since the album pretty much sucked except for Demonstrate and Hello. Plus the whole concept of adding Alex was messy and not well thought through at that time. But it would be a shame if it was considering Demonstrate was such a great song. And what about High4:20? I cant find their sales, but I saw that they were able to make the top 10 on Gaon Chart which I guess is pretty good considering AKP describes it as the Korean equivalent of Billboard.