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Discussion in 'K-POP' started by Aeri_L, Feb 13, 2018.
Is it outside korea? Or outside asia as a whole?
Idk im lost
Europe and America=International
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I think if we only considered international attention as outside of East Asia, it dismisses the distinctions of each Asian country and their individual histories. So I vote for anything outside of Korea.
When the alien's hear it you know you've made it
as long as it's out side of the nation, in KPOPs case, South Korea, it is international.
Well, by definition it means two or more nations/countries. Korean + Japan, that's two, that's international.
I guess if someone wants to make the distinction that their fandom include a lot of westerners, they can call it "intercontinental"?
"Global" is another commonly used term. But I don't know. If it's only parts of Asia and Americas, can you call that global? I mean, Africa, Europe, Australia account for a big portion of the global landmass and population too...
International means outside of the home country.
Therefore, groups who are extremely successful within other Asian countries are just as
internationally successful as those who are popular in the States.
If you're known outside your country that's international.
But people usually think that international only falls under that category if the US are involved what a limited view
International = US
Local = Asia + Arab Peninsula e.g. Dubai.
the same logic that exo ls ,when they consider China "internacional" and we are talking about a group that had/ has chinese members, reléase chinese albums, have/had an unit only for china and work and promote for chinese market....
Honey its not 2013
You guys should really know what international means. If you can chart in more than ONE continent then you're an international star. You guys dismiss Europe and USA but beside Japan, the top 10 list for the biggest music market is USA is #1 and other European countries as the top 5. Making it in the USA as an outside artist means that you're more likely to make it in other countries too bc the world is influenced by American pop culture.
Here's an example of this. Back in 2012 it was a battle of 1D and The Wanted, both british group and the battle was for who would succeed in USA first. The Wanted had a #2 single on Billboard while 1D had a #1 album on Billboard that sold around 100k+ copies 1st week. The Wanted sold around 37k copies 1st week for their album even tho they were in the same label as JB and had the same manager. Now when 1D won that race for US success, they started gaining more fame and fans while The Wanted gained less. The Wanted's second album flopped and they had to cancel their 2014 tour bc of that.
Which is why kids international success outside of your CONTINENT esp success in the American music industry can lead to greater things.
I would consider Japan, China and other asian countries, but k-pop is more known there. They are pretty used to kpop and their market are more open to idols, they have their own too. So I would say outside Asia.
If you talk about BTS, they have not only US popularity, but other countries too.
And if I counted Asia, BTS are pretty popular in Japan too.
1 chinese member, they release chinese albums, work and promote for chinese market...ehh the things have not changed too much, dont you think?
Global vs continental vs international vs national
It all gets fuzzy in kpop.
Lol you are talking about Lay? Who did not even promote with EXO in 2017 and rarely in 2016.
They didnt even promote in China because of the THADD ban.
And EXO is not a Chinese boy group.
KPop is pretty much staple music in places like Japan, Philippines, China.... pretty much East Asia. So I'd say international popularity is being popular outside that region, rather than outside the entire continent
International literally has one meaning theres can't be a debate unless y'all are calling up Oxford for a change in definition now