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What do you consider a rapper and not just a “Idol” rapper?

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  1. pikachuki

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    Mimi always writes her own raps. She even wrote the rap parts for oh my girl's children songs which sounds weird but her rap really fits.

     
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    Agree without naming names
     
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    Underground rappers go through a lot and please tell me why some artists from the same company write their raps but others are not allowed to?
    The essence of rapping lies in the words and if they are not your own ...
     
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    i can't with all the tailor made requirements :teeheek:
    some of you all will be surprised at how many idol rappers actually write their own lyrics but i'm sure you will find ways to suddenly dismiss that out of your lists of requirements which apparently boils down to "only my faves are real rappers. why? because i said so" :teeheek:

    anyway, i'll bookmark this thread for the next time
     
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    big bang rap line
    bobby
    bts rap line
    jennie
     
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    Writing your own lines is the absolute minimum requirement. Stop pretending like anyone is not allowed to write. If they dont write, its because they dont have the ability to.
     
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    esp since artists from the same company write
     
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    I think there is 3 clear group of rappers :

    "Real rappers" - Most of the time come from the K hip hop scene, and releases multiple mixtapes. Often regarded as the best rapper in the idol industries, they are almost all male idols. BTS rapline is by far the most famous of them :
    Suga, RM, GD, TOP, Mino, Bobby, BI, Jooheon etc... Mainly Soyeon, CL and LE for female idols.

    This is also the only rappers i strongly know they were rappers before idols, for the others i assume they were not and feel free to correct me if im wrong

    "Strong idol rappers" - Started rapping during trainee days/idol years but grew up to be some of the best rapper in the industry regardless :
    Jennie, Lisa, Chanyeol, Jhope, Chaeyoung (im pretty sure she was a rapper but idk so i place her here), a lot of current late 3rd gen/4th gen idol rappers i can't name.

    "Idol rappers" - Here because they can't be part of the vocal line : Irene is the most obvious one. Mostly female idols which sucks.
     
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    The way some are making gatekeeping rules to shade is pretty amusing. Not surprised to see the ones who liked the post “ I don’t agree with Jennie” lol
     
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    Stan Young K, main vocal and main rapper who writes not just his own raps but lyrics to entire songs (without like 362744 people helping him)
     
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    Now get a bucket and a mop, that’s some wet ass pussy.

    :oops:
     
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    I also don’t think we should listen to people who only listen to one Group and have 0 knowledge about others. Or praised WAP. There are people in here who said Zico and Mino are bad rappers, I don’t know if they are really a reliable and unbiased source lol.
     
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    You might think the way some are acting like Rap experts they should mention him as well. I don’t follow Day6 and I know he is really talented.
     
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    He sure is. He has like written over 100+ songs with credits under him I think he might be the most credited artist in JYPE. And it's not like he gets credits just for writing a few lines of rap, but he actually writes the entire lyrics to Day6 songs together with other members. In fact majority of Day6 songs are 100% written by the members themselves, it is only for the production they have like 1 - 3 producers who assist them.

    Like just look at their latest OT5 album with the exception of "Afraid" that was written by Sungjin, the rest of the songs were all entirely written by Day6 (Young K, Jae, Wonpil, Sungjin, Dowoon). And for the music arrangement they work mostly with just Hong Jisang their producer. The thing that I really appreciate about Day6 is how much hard work they put into their music :lover1::lover1:

    And not just this, I also have the physical copy of the Demon album where there are more credits to them for which instruments they play in the songs. I guess the reason why they don't need multiple producers is because they themselves are the ones playing the instrumental for their songs. We stan talent :siptear::siptear:

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    Some of the people mentioned here....
    Seriously, you would rather choose Jennie. Over female rappers like Soyeon and CL?
     
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    Youre right but I wouldnt consider Jennie a real rapper if you say so, she doesnt write her own rap, she doesnt have the flow and techniques that I see in some actual rappers in Korea, and if she went on SMTM she would have been eaten...so yeah

    Note: Ive seen some people say that Jennie has said she wrote some of the rap, but not all of it but personally I dont think she has the flow or style, I wish she could be able to rap with another flow, but she is a talented vocalist more so than rapper.
     
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    I'm talking wap wap wap , thats some wet ass pussy :oops:

    WAP and yummy take the cake for trashiest songs of 2020 imo from what i've listened to.
     
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    Brave of you to even say that "Yummy" is a song. That shit is not even fit to be a nursery rhyme
     
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    Zico who was formally an Idol, Bobby, Song Mino, Soyeon, Hyuna, LE
     
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    It didn't go unnoticed that you grouped Hobi with others who are clearly no where near his level. This man didn't produced and write his own whole ass mixtape to he disrespected this way. He is on par with both Joon and Yoongi, so don't play.
     
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