Twice & BlackPink real sales numbers

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  1. PatheticBadger

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    Alright! Since i've seen a bunch of crappy threads using the SPS method from both fandoms.
    So i'm going the show the most accurate numbers I can. The sources i'm going to use are: Gaon, Billboard, Oricon, Billboard JP & Chartmasters.

    The final numbers will be counted in physical album status. using the followning method (the same that billboard uses).

    It's as following: 11750(views) = 1500(streams) = 10(digital sales) = 1(physical album)

    So using the numbers from chartmasters the sales for respective group looks like this.

    Twice: 4.357.841

    BlackPink: 3.630.382

    Now we just need the numbers of their digital sales as well as their physical sales.

    By using the numbers that gaon as well as some estimations since they don't release the total numbers now like they do with physicals. Both groups estimated digital sales are as following.

    Twice: 21.000.000+ (estimat, could be higher)

    Blackpink: 14.000.000+ (estimat, could be higher)

    Now by taking those numbers and dividing them with 17.5 you will be able to convert then to their physical worth. Why the number 17.5? Well, most albums in South korea are around 15 - 20 dollars so by taking 50% of the price diffrent and adding that to the lesser of the two you have a decent number to use to calculate the digital to physical. And those numbers are as following.

    Twice: 1.200.000 + (estimat, could be higher)

    Blackpink: 800.000 + (estimat, could be higher)

    Now for the easy part the pure physicals! which I will use Gaon, Oricon & Billborad JP. They are as following.

    Twice: 8.000.000 + (estimat, could be higher)

    Blackpink: 716401

    Now just add all of these together and there is their total sales using the EAS method.

    Twice: 13.737.841

    Blackpink: 5.146.783

    Now you can go even deeper with this method using the value of diffrent types of albums and stuff like that. I won't do that here since I don't have the will power to do that. As well as using chinese digital which I also don't feel like calculating.

    Anyway here are the final numbers. Keep in mind that they are not 100% accurate but it is the closest we proablt can get to them. Maybe a little bit closer but I dont bother to sit here for a blood week. one hour was enough...

    Final numbers!

    Twice: 13.737.841 (estimat, could be higher)

    BlackPink: 5.146.783 (estimat, could be higher)

    Final numbers! (without korean digital estimat counted)

    Twice: 12.537.841

    BlackPink: 4.346.783


    Yes, my writing did get progressivly worse & sloppier during this... I just wanted to be done!!!:cryingr:





     
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    Are those official? Nope.
    It's useless numbers.
     
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    Twice Queens of Boy groups & Blackpink Legends with 13 songs only
     
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    I feel you on this, I just exited the browser in the middle of one of my threads so I now have to retype it :waterr:
     
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    I have no idea what u did with those numbers but u have my respect for the way u worked it out op, could never be me
     
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    It's the closest you could get to official numbers... Even Oricon for example aren't 100% accurate due to only counting 3 per order or something similar like that. Also it's 1billion times closer to than what that SPS crap is.
     
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    either way i hope people dont use these numbers to stir a contest or something. Great sales to both
     
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    how much closest? there's no such term as "real numbers" when estimation and non official formulas being used...
     
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    You don't know how many times i would have gotten banned if my browser never did that.

    I take it as an advice from browser oppa and tone down or stop making problematic threads.
     
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    this digital sales battle never stop to end, thx god i'm stick with physical sales for looking how success the group is

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    Methodology is right with accurate weightage used by billboard usa and ifpi.
    Op good job. I am sick of explaining how things are calculated. Funny part people converted them to equivalents and then added those equivalents to numbers before conversion. Like wtf. How could you add 1 stream and 1 download as 1 album and come with such number!
    Twice actual number must be around 15 to 20 million imo
    Like take britney spears she sold 80 million albums
    Sold 100 million singles and billion of streams. That is over 180 million records plus streams but we cant add singles and streams with albums. So we convert into equivalents. Used by ifpi and billboard
    Those streams downloads physical singles are later converted to 20 million in album value. Then we add it with pure album sales taking her total over 100 million.
    But what people are doing here they are using that converted 100 million eas and adding it to 180 million number before conversion and saying she sold 280 million records which is wrong
     
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    Considering i just saw you rank BP's popularity same level as SVT... Keep it.
    Imma need fakea*s akp armyonces to stop inventing some superficial supposedly unbiased accounting for bp sales to elevate Twice .
    Stick to the shading, downplaying. No amount of these daily collective circle jerking is gonna change shit.
     
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    I littraly only used offical formulas except for the Gaon digital part which I made a seperate total without.
     
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    Just because I said both as honorable mentions dosn't mean that they have the same popularity. SVt does have a album with 900k copies which help them abit...:)
     
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    BP total sales have already been calculated
    Square sold 2.5 EAS
    kTL sold almost 2M EAS
    Square 1,2 sold over 1M each
    They hold like 7M EAS actually✓
     
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    Please give me the source and I will look in to it.
     
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    Why do you think HardcoreBLINK doesn't have a single Blackpink Badge? ;)
    He only wants to have fun with the allkpop users and that's it.
     
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    Benefit of the doubt:)
     
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    You can do that yourself.
     
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