Thoughts On California Democrat Want To Bring Back Racial Preference

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    bashing 2nd gen immigrants ❤️
    no ❤️
     
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    Is that what you're calling affirmative action?
     
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    Okay, let dissect: Per Carl Cohen, of the University of Michigan Supreme Court cases, argues that racial preferences are morally wrong, it is forbidden by the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, and banned by the Civil Rights Act of 1964. He also contends that such preferences harm society in general, damage the universities that use them, and undermine the minorities they were intended to serve. I agree!
    Now, James P. Sterba counters that, far from being banned by the Constitution and the civil rights acts, affirmative action is actually mandated by law in the pursuit of a society that is racially and sexually just. The same Congress that adopted the 14th Amendment, he notes, passed race-specific laws that extended aid to blacks. Now, there are various kinds of affirmative action, compensation for past discrimination, remedial measures aimed at current discrimination, the guarantee of diversity, Sterba reviews the Supreme Court cases that build a constitutional foundation for each. Affirmative action, he argues, favors qualified minority candidates, not unqualified ones.

    Which includes Native Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, Hispanic/Latino populations, and women.

    Do you still think they are the same?
     
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    This is what I mean: "Racial preference" is a term used to criticize affirmative action.
     
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    As a born Californian, it is distressing how much power one political party wields over the State. Can you see the do it "my way or the highway" dictate... Another Voter determined issue being contested. Usually there is a court injunction along with a public official
    (Governor or State AG) refusing their duty to represent the voters. Aka Trial by forfeit.
    The State University regents dropped SAT snd ACT admission requirements. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...a-sat-act-admissions-requirements/5241427002/
    University admission costs are hyper inflationary. In addition to regular State Budget funding more is sought with Education Bond propositions asking for Billions.
     
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    I think it is fair to say that it's a nice thought to give more opportunities to people who are less fortunate, but this type of half measures never worked as intended whenever it is implemented this heinous way.

    I think it would be just fine to give more opportunities to people of low income to get higher education. It will improve black community lives. Also improving the quality of schools in low income neighborhoods would just be better to everyone independent of race. Instead of focusing on higher education, improving the basic education would give them the odds to seek higher education without the need of these programs.

    Still no government, democrat or republican, seems to touch this issue. They just do half measures. Democrats with these failed SJ programs and republicans just feeding big corporations. USA seriously need at least a couple of other viable political parties.
     
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    Yes, totally agree...
     
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    It'll only screw asians in the long run. Affirmative action is about helping non whites and women get ahead but non hispanic whites are only 1/3rd of the California population and will soon be down to 1/4th. Not to mention the fact that white men usually go straight into the work force and don't generally gravitate towards college. So who exactly will be getting pushed out here? It'll be the booming asian population giving up university spots to hispanic and black populations.
     
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    I do not agree...affirmative action is given to anyone who fit the criteria. Why would you say Asians will be left out? White people think that only black and Hispanic people benefit from affirmative action, it also applies to Asian, Jews, many of whom has benefited from Affirmative Action, its for everyone. I’m very ambivalent about race-based affirmative action though.
     
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    Actually, Asians are suing Harvard over discrimination now. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/18/us/affirmative-action-harvard.html

    And there are movements to create independent charter schools that can serve lower class students. Here in Arizona, students are allowed to attend any school they choose as long as they can get there. And schools are rated on their performance, and failing charter/government schools have also been closed. But those on the left fight against it tooth and nail because they are more interested controlling the curriculum than student success.
     

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