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Discussion in 'K-POP' started by lizvip, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. lizvip

    lizvip Artist

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    Looking at gaon annual charting,... can we FINALLY say that WINNER was actually robbed, or atleast that awards shows fsiled to reconize the HUGE sucess of REALLY REALLY with out excuses?



    Gaon annual download chart


    #1 Ailee - I will go to you like the first snow - 2,488,341
    #2 IU - Through The Night - 2,181,372
    #3 Ed Sheeran - Shape Of You - 1,936,653
    #4 IU - Palette - 1,817,177
    #5 AKMU - Last Goodbye - 1,806,453
    #6 Yoon Jong Shin - Like it - 1,780,037
    #7 Bolbbalgan4 - Tell Me You Love Me - 1,777,488
    #8 Heize - You, Clouds, Rain -1,725,668
    #9 WINNER - Really Really - 1,632,127
    #10 TWICE - Knock Knock - 1,627,915





    Gaon annual streamin chart

    1. Ailee I Will Go To You Like The First Snow
    2. IU Through the Night
    3. Yoon Jong Shin Like It
    4. Bolbbalgan4 Tell Me You Love Me
    5. Ed Sheeran Shape of You
    6. Heize Rain Clouds You
    7. IU Palette
    8. Gu Yun Hee Marry Me
    9. Crush Beautiful
    10 .TWICE Knock Knock

    BONUS: 11. WINNER REALLY REALLY ---> 100, 280,059

    Gaon annual digital chart
    1.Ailee I Will Go To You Like The First Snow
    2. IU Through the Night
    3. Yoon Jong Shin Like It
    4. Ed Sheeran Shape of You
    5. Heize Rain Clouds You
    6. Bolbbalgan4 Tell Me You Love Me
    7. IU Palette
    8. TWICE Knock Knock
    9. AkMu Last Goodbye
    10. WINNER Really Really
     
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  2. Vipmultifandom10

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    Shit people are gonna kill me
    cough cough twice
     
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  3. LAYNICORNINFIRES

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    YES
    WINNER
    WAS
    FUCKING
    ROBBED
     
  4. lizvip

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    Twice was robbed as well...have 0 problem with them, st least they were more reconized than WINNER by awards shows, even tho their numbers were similar
     
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  5. aestheticqweens

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    Really Really outsold though..
     
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  6. aestheticqweens

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    I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE THIS THREAD OMG.
     
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  7. xxxcadrgn

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    poor my winner :""")
     
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  8. Icy68446

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    Can they stop screwing winner over like for real
     
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  9. lizvip

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    You can see how the same people that make excuses and justify the unfairness of awards shows are now silent.... the irony.
     
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    I think they deserve song of the year at least in one award show.
    for me song of the year is really really and spring day- one is more party song and one is a hopefull song.
    I didnt like twice signal and I dont listen to iu casually so I dont know about her songs but I know she has the best streamings in the charts so she really deserve song of the year.
    but I will be happy if winner will get song of the year for really really.
    this years awards(especially mama) were unfair for them. they had 2 REALLY good comeback....:yesr:
     
  11. forever9_sone

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    I actually enjoyed Really Really, it's a great song. This is the first song I know from Winner. I was just able to hear it from one of the radio stations here but I got addicted that everyday i want them to play it, so i request this song from them hehehe
     
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  12. lizvip

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    I could not resist... There was tons of threats making excuses for you know who, but now you can see whats up
     
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  13. ITZAYANAMX

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    We all lnow that they robbed WINNER and all to not upset bigger fanbases
     
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    Yas girl!!:yesr::yesr: Wonder why this thread is so dead:whatr::whatr:
     
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  15. lizvip

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    They dont like the true. Hahahaha
     
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  16. Mai_Turn

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    Agree with you... Though the other artists also deserved SOTY, WINNER at least deserved a nomination for SOTY :( (which they mostly didn't get :/ )
     
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  17. Yabie

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    Main awards for Melon at least:
    voting : 20%
    sales: 60%
    judge scores: 20%

    beside sales, there is 40% other factors lmao

    I think that it deserved at least a nomination, ( *cough* YG prolly has a beef with someone)
    but i think its ridicilous to say "robbed"

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  18. lizvip

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    That depend wish artist you are talking about. IU and TWICE according to the criteria for sure deserve the nomination and even win along with WINNER, but some song that were nominated are not even in the top general list of downloads or strems and were nominated above winner
     
  19. risingtaeyang

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    They deserved a nomination, yes.

    Now, if they did get a nomination, would they have won? Not necessarily. Sales was only 60% of the final score, the other 40% was voting and judges scores.

    Let's throw some numbers here

    The difference between Spring Day and Really Really is around 100k-200k, that's not more than a 40% difference, so even if Really Really was nominated - they would need all the judges votes and some voting points to win it and i'm pretty sure Spring Day would receive some judge votes and top up the voting points based on fandom.

    Now I really really like the song (pun not intended) but the cultural impact of a song like Spring Day (used for the Sewol ferry tragedy) to a song about romance (bop or no bop) - Really Really pales in comparison.

    You can only apply the word "robbed" if all things were 100% equal between both groups...i.e if the winner was solely based on sales 100%...then I would agree with you.
     
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  20. Mai_Turn

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    I mean the ones, who won ^^

    I know, that some, who were nominated, didn't deserve the nomination as much as WINNER :)
     

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