Should There Even Be a Visual Position in Kpop?

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Should ¨being the visual¨ be a thing in kpop?

  1. No, its dumb

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  1. SunnyLife

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    Being a visual obviously isnt a talent even though it might take a lot of effort to looks perfect all the time. It feels weird that there are visual positions in kpop especially when another member without that title is more popular for their looks. For example, Jisoo is the visual of BP, but isnt Jennie more popular for her beauty and looks? That makes me wonder why there even is a visual position when another member is obviously more recognized for their beauty and thought of as more attractive. What do you guys think? Is it really necessary to have a visual in a group when it seems to be nothing more than a tacky title?
     
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    I dislike how the moment people know that x member is the visual, they immediately judge him/her and look for flaws. It can be a burden for the members.

    The visual usually is the one member that has to look natural and use the less makeup/hairstyles and has to act polite and quite. Which actually renders them to look plain. The other members are the ones who try to catch attention. Its a stupid rule but its real for a lot of groups.
     
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    it's for the center position
     
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    But then why isn´t Jisoo the center in Blackpink?
     
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    Not necessarily though.
     
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    Yes. Because you have some nugu groups that get popular because of their visuals. The visuals sometimes get CFs and share it with the whole group. If they don't have visuals they will probably not earn any money.
    I think YG groups shouldn't have visuals because they don't need it. They don't have a single group where the visual is the most popular or pulls in majority of CFs
     
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    I don't think the position is needed, but I don't think there is a reason to not have it either.
     
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    No, it isn't that hard to find attractive people who also excel in either singing/rapping/dancing. Also the visual isn't always the prettiest in everyone's eyes anyway.
     
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    The visual is usually the most boring-looking. They never stand out or catch your eye.
     
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    Visuals are a characteristic, not a position. you can't change my mind.
     
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    It's unnecessary because a lot of times, the member that the company decides to call a "visual" isn't the one that people consider the most beautiful/handsome or the one that attracts the most fans.
     
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    Not true, and Astro is a perfect example. They have Chan Eunwoo for their visual but only he is getting CFs, gp recognition, most of the fandom biases him, he is invited on variety shows alone without his group, got into acting, etc. Why? Because he has good looks. For him his position doesnt even matter just because of his handsome face he will get everything he wants his group cant(no shade, just my opinion).
     
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    Because they don’t try at all. The visual usually is the one member that has to look natural and use the less makeup/hairstyles and has to act polite and quite. The other members are the ones who try to catch attention. Its a stupid rule but its real fora lot of groups.
     
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    Its weird how the visual position is valued a lot in kpop but it ends up doing nothing for the group and just for that individual most of the times.
     
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    Tbh at least k-pop is honest. Many companies in the west make GGs and BGs where some members are obviously only there for their looks but they won't admit it. Visuals in general are supposed to be stan attractions and it works, whether that's a bad or not is a different thing .
     
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    Perfect example. I have seen so many people that got interested in Astro because of Eubwoo and some people will buy their albums because of their Eunwoo. Their last Korean album in 2018 sold around 31k their album in January 2019 120K.
     
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    Eunwoo and that girl from DIA are rare cases. Usually visuals are not even top 5 in popularity in their group.
     
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    They should give every group a visual BUT don't let the company decide who is the main visual. Beauty is subjective and the company standard of being a visual can't justify that.
     
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    A lot of people don't even know Eunwoo is in a group called Astro lol
    There is a huge disparity between his popularity and Astro's popularity. His fame is more benefitial to him than to his group and I doubt he really shares what he earns with his CFs and dramas with his group.
     
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    Yeah but does it really do much for the group as a whole? I dont want to offend but do people know Astro as that boy group with 6 lovely members or do they know them as ¨oh its the group Chan Eunwoo is in?¨
     

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