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Red Velvet was never meant to be SM's flagship girl group.

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  1. mparserz

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    I always see threads that criticize Red Velvet for only being a TOP 3 girl group. Seriously? Yeah, I get it, they're from SM. But here's the thing people have to realize, Red Velvet, by all accounts, has exceeded SM's expectations. How so? Red Velvet was never meant to be SM's flagship girl group. They just happen to be SM's only consistently active girl group at the moment with SNSD taking a long hiatus, and F(x) being in limbo.

    Red Velvet will never do the songs and concepts that you basically see in main groups do. It's clear that SM looks at Red Velvet as their experimental girl group, like they did with F(x). That's the reason Red Velvet does the more eccentric concepts and genres that you wouldn't see SNSD do. So the fact that Red Velvet, pretty much SM's sub project, is doing as well as they are is amazing.

    Basically, Red Velvet was not SM's attempt at competing with the flagship girl groups from other agencies. Red Velvet just happened to do better than they imagined they would.

    I think that SM will probably debut their new girl group in the near future, but they also feel no rush considering how well Red Velvet is doing.
     
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    I think many people forget this

    that when JYP and YG debuted Twice and BP they bet all their chances on them

    While Red velvet was just a way to debut a new group to add a new blood to SM ent and forget the depart of EXO-M and the depart of Sulli.
    The experimental group in SM are never make to be sucessful but if they are it's a plus for them.
    it's just a way to try different genre for them without having any impact on their big group
     
  3. mparserz

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    Exactly. Red Velvet was supposed to be the group that helped to bridge SM's transition from SNSD to their eventual flagship group. But, like I said, due to Red Velvet's success, I think SM pretty much was afforded the luxury of waiting instead of panicking to debut a new girl group.
     
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    SM actually stopped trying to appeal to the GP since long time ago
    Their last attempt was SNSD lmao
    Shinee , f(x) , EXO , Red Velvet , NCT
    All of them do experimental stuff .. they never go to the easy likable trend ..
     
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    You're not wrong about RV being an experimental group, but then does that mean White Fox will be the next SNSD? Would they kill RV when White Fox comes around?
     
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    They were never SM’s flagship girl group
    And yet they out here with so many achievements and lots of acclaim.

    It’s their experimental side that really got me into them, when I heard that Dumb Dumb pre chorus, I knew I was in for a treat lol
     
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    Yes plus like i said F(x) is almost disbanded and they couldn't give them some songs like rookie who don't fit the vibe of F(x) and they will not try to give an experimental song to SNSD because people will criticize them etc...
    So they needeed new laboratory rats and it's Red velvet.

    But just to think this it's amazing with just their "laboratory rats " SM have the best vocalist of the Big3 and the better visual
    Indeed SM is strong !!!
     
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    It just means that Red Velvet will continue doing what they do while SM finally gives White Fox the NEXT SNSD treatment.
     
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    No like i said in a previous thread They will not kill RV
    they kill F(x) because SNSD was still strong and they were not a big competition sure JYP debuted Miss a but they were never feel like a competition to F(x)

    While with RV SM in a direct competition with YG and JYP
    while "WHite fox " is supposed to compete against the GG of SOmi and the next GG of YG or Teddy
     
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    Ahh makes sense~ I just got a little lost
     
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    Finally, someone understands.
    The fact that they are even considered Top 3 with their concepts and sound is absolutely amazing.
     
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    How is red velvet experimental? I mean I love them but they aren't developing some kind of new music or new style, their songs are pretty part and parcel of the genres that they are meant to reside in. Which they do well. But to say that they themselves are experimental is absurd. Also I feel people underestimate Red Velvet by comparing them to Twice and Bp when the numbers they put up are very good considering 98% of girl groups cant get close to their numbers.
     
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    I mean, they definitely try more out there stuff compared to SNSD, and have a lot of variety within their setlist compared to other groups.
     
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    Don't get too caught up with the term "experimental" meaning Red Velvet is out there dropping chinchillas off the roof onto drums for instrumentals and beats. I just mean that their music and concepts were different from what SM was willing to give SNSD. SM was letting Red Velvet even do genres that F(x) didn't do much of or at all. Out of all their girl groups, Red Velvet had a larger spectrum of music genres they were willing to do that spanned from really wacky pop to r&b.
     
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    Well they became their flagship group whether they planned on it or not so now SM has to start giving them everything they deserve. If they never get a lightstick then idk what is going on over there at SM.
     
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    How does one criticize for “only” being a top 3, wut? Lol makes zero sense. They have done extremely well and should be praised for it.
     
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    Agreed. Some people are weird.
     
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    Rv girls will go solo.

    But Joy needs to try smaller things first xD
     
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    Experimental? I guess their concepts are somewhat varied but i wouldn't say they are experimental. RR, rookie and DD are pretty much what any other top gg could do (IOI, Twice, Wjsn, etc).

    F(x) on the other side was the real experiment: weird music, amber, a chinese member, etc.

    I'm pretty sure they'll be inactive for quite some time if sm debuts another group. After all, they're focusing on making these girls money makers for solo activities. Irene as a model, Joy as an actress and maybe Yeri in the variety field. Seulgi might get a solo debut and tbh i can see Wendy being the next Luna. Which is a shame considering she's really talented.
     
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