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Red velvet is not Original

Discussion in 'K-POP' started by twiceeeeeeeeeeee, Jul 19, 2018.

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  1. twiceeeeeeeeeeee

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    I know I recieve hatred for this but I want to express my opinion in a decent way without attacking anyone.
    I always read that red velvet is extremely talented and original the first one is true but the second one not at all their fans say that their are original because they change all the time of concept but is not that the concept of red velvet? They have two sides a red and another velvet where is the originality in use their own concept? .

    Other thing is that their music sound different all the time is because their songs are written by different writers only in their last album were used more than 20 FORIGNER composers if we compare it with Twice (JYP) and Blackpink (teddy) it is evident that their music is going to sound so different I do not say that they are not talented I only say that it is not remarkable that the pretext is used by their fans when they say that they are better because they music is different
    PD: sorry my bad English ❤ I like red velvet BTW
     
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    I've always wondered what's great in changing concepts all the time. Artists like sam smith and ed sheeran are already great as they are. Taylor Swift's was way better before she changed her concept
     
  3. twiceeeeeeeeeeee

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    I just find annoyed when people said it because it their concept it evident that they will make it
     
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    RV has been around for 3, almost 4 years. They don’t get to choose the songs on their albums. SM chooses and give them the lyric sheets to sing. They don’t have power over SM the way SNSD or Super Junior or TVXQ do. They do what they’re told to do, song the songs and dance the choreography that the company gives them.

    talk in 6 years when RV has a leg up on SM but for right now they don’t so don’t hate on RV for decisions they have absolutely ZERO power over
     
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    Eh
    They might not be "original" but i do love their concepts
     
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    Snsd neither choice what to sing but this post is not about that it about its not original it their concept to do that
     
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    I don't say it as something negative
     
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    Original or not, Red Velvet is gold.
    :siptear::yesr:
     
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    That's SM's way using loads of foreign artists - it's why they are original (and EXO for that matter).
     
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    Ed Sheeran changed for the worse IMO, his best songs are Lego House and A Team
     
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    And now Sam smith is hated for the kpop community lol
     
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    I always thought the guy was well overrated
     
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    That is a fact :yesr:
     
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    Well as far as I know until RV no other kpop group used their dual concept. Yes other groups changed concepts some starkly different from the rest but it was not their marketing point. So I do think it was pretty original to capitalize on that. As for the 2nd thing I think your argument kinda falls apart on itself when you say they aren't original but that yea they do have different sounds compared to other groups.
    I don't think using the same producer is bad. Kara often used Sweetune and they always released bops and they didn't always sound the same. It's just that at a certain point when your songs start losing distinction then you should think about making a creative change.
    Anyways I disagree with you but whatevs~
     
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    Red velvet destroys the two groups you mentioned musically and Mamamoo destroys them all
     
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    for all i know, musically u don't have groups doing something similiar to Red Velvet and conceptually as well. That's why they are original to me.
     
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    In talent maybe but in sucess or popularity mmmm not
     
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    YASS
     
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    the change of concepts can cause an inconsistency in the interest of a fan.
    but it shows that they're versatile, and can do anything out there.
    it's also probably a big reason as to why rv isn't as big as twice or bp.

    and red and velvet are just hugeeeeeeee umbrella terms for the concepts that they do.
    russian roulette and rookie were both "red" concepts but they're definitely not similar.
     
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    Groups don’t change their concept .. omg they are boring they can’t do anything else
    Groups change their concept .. omg can’t they stick to one thing , can’t they find one thing they do good and not change it ..

    And FLASH NEWS
    THERE IS NO ORIGINALITY IN CHANGING CONCEPT OR NOT
    YOU EITHER CHANGE IT OR NOT LMAO
     
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