Pope Rejects 'Excessive Demand for Sovereignty', Pushes Idea of Global Authority

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    This Jesuit clown is infinitely more dangerous than Trump.


    Pope Francis is pushing for steps toward global authority that supersedes the rights of individual countries, all with the goal of pursuing "the common good" on issues like climate change and immigration.

    "When a supranational common good is clearly identified, it is necessary to have a special authority legally and concordantly constituted capable of facilitating its implementation. We think of the great contemporary challenges of climate change, new forms of slavery and peace," he told members of the Pontifical Academy.

    They met last week at the Vatican to discuss the topic of: "Nation, State, Nation-State."


    While addressing the conference, Francis rebuked the trend of nationalism among individual countries and the many tensions that "come from an excessive demand for sovereignty on the part of States."

    However, the pope defended patriotism as a good thing. But he warned it can become perverted when "it involves the exclusion and hatred of others when it becomes a conflictual nationalism that builds walls, indeed even racism or anti-Semitism," according to Breitbart.com.

    Francis also implied national sovereignty becomes twisted when countries do not have a welcoming attitude toward migrants.

    "The Church observes with concern the reemergence, in many parts of the world, of currents that are aggressive towards foreigners, especially immigrants, as well as a growing nationalism that neglects the common good," he told the conference.

    This, in turn, "threatens to jeopardize consolidated forms of international cooperation, undermines the aims of international organizations as a space for dialogue and meeting for all countries in a spirit of mutual respect, and hinders the attainment of the sustainable development goals approved unanimously by the United Nations," the Pope said.


    The Pope also said individual countries can no longer look out for their own people by themselves due to globalization.

    "The nation-state is no longer able to procure the common good of its populations alone. The common good has become global and nations must associate for their own benefit," Francis said.

    The Pope also pushed the idea of supranational entities to the conference. A supranational union is defined as a type of multinational political union where negotiated power is delegated to an authority by governments of member states. The term is sometimes used to describe the European Union, according to Wikipedia.

    For instance, a group of nations could "strengthen their cooperation by connecting certain functions and services to intergovernmental institutions that manage their common interests," he said.

    "When a supranational common good is clearly identified, it is necessary to have a special authority that is legally and concordantly constituted and capable of facilitating its implementation," the Pope concluded.





     
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    Fact #1

    Pope Clement XIV abolished the Jesuits as a society in 1773:





    It did not take long for the 18th Century Catholic nations to get tired of the meddling of the Jesuits into their national affairs. They were so infuriated against the Jesuits that they demanded the Roman Catholic Church abolish them once and for all. Sufficient political pressure was brought to bear on Pope Clement XIII. However, he passed away before he could do anything about it. The task of abolishing the Society of Jesus then fell on his successor, Clement XIV. As Clement XIV signed the decree abolishing the Jesuit Order he said, “I have signed my death warrant,…” Within nine months he was dead. [Many contemporaries considered his death a case of poisoning, and suspected the Jesuits were responsible].

    Source: http://www.pickle-publishing.com/papers/triple-crown-clement-xiv.htm



    Fact #2

    No other entity on Earth was expelled and suppressed by Catholic and non-Catholic countries as the Jesuits:

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    Obviously the Jesuits were not expelled from many nations (even Catholic nations) because of their educational or charity work. They were expelled for engaging in and carrying out subversive political plots against humanity to advance their own cause.

    "Between 1555 and 1931 the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] was expelled from at least 83 countries, city states and cities, for engaging in political intrigue and subversion plots against the welfare of the State, according to the records of a Jesuit priest of repute [i.e., Thomas J. Campbell]. Practically every instance of expulsion was for political intrigue, political infiltration, political subversion, and inciting to political insurrection."

    The Jesuits are known for their deception, spying, infiltration, assassination, and revolution. They worked deep into the political field and plotted through politics throughout the world countries.

    Source: "The Babington Plot", by J.E.C. Shepherd, p.12

    When the Jesuits are expelled from a country, they simply change strategies and return to the country they were expelled from under a new disguise. The following sums up their operational strategy:

    “We came in like lambs and will rule like wolves. We shall be expelled like dogs and return like eagles.”

    Source: Francesco Borgia, Third Jesuit Superior General.

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    Fact #3

    Hitler modeled his dreaded SS army and party after the organizational structure of the Jesuits and the Roman Catholic Church:


    "…the SS organization had been constituted according to the principles of the Jesuit Order."

    Source: "The Secret History of the Jesuits," by Edmond Paris, p. 164

    Walter Schellenberg, former chief of Nazi counter-espionage made this statement: "The S.S. organization had been constituted by Himmler [Heinrich Himmler, leading member of the Nazi party] according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. Their regulations and the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the model Himmler tried to copy exactly. Himmler's title as supreme chief of the S.S. was to be the equivalent of the Jesuits' 'General' and the whole structure was a close imitation of the Catholic Church's hierarchical order." "The Secret History of the Jesuits," by Edmond Paris, p. 164

    Above all I have learned from the Jesuits. And so did Lenin too, "far as I recall. The world has never known anything quite so splendid as the hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church. There were quite a few things I simply appropriated from the Jesuits for the use of the Party.

    Source: Manfred Barthel, "The Jesuits: History and Legend of the Society of Jesus (New York, 1984), Adolf Hitler, p.266.

    "I learned much from the Order of the Jesuits", said Hitler... "Until now, there has never been anything more grandiose, on the earth, than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. I transferred much of this organization into my own party... I am going to let you in on a secret... I am founding an Order... In my "Burgs" of the Order, we will raise up a youth which will make the world tremble... Hitler then stopped, saying that he couldn't say any more..

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    Signing the concordat is Cardinal Pacelli (later to become Pope Pius XII). By 1933 he was the Vatican Secretary of State. Second from left is Franz von Papen, a sinister Nazi and devout Roman Catholic who was Hitler's ace diplomat and the Vatican's agent in helping to bring Hitler to power. Standing at the far right can be seen the little-known Vatican prelate, Montini, later to become Pope Paul VI.



    Source: "Hermann Rauschning, former national-socialist chief of the government of Dantzig: "Hitler m'a dit", (Ed. Co-operation, Paris 1939, pp.266, 267, 273 ss).

    "The Fuhrer had come to power, thanks to the votes of the Catholic Zentrum [Center Party overseen by Jesuit Ludwig Kaas], only five years before 1933, but most of the objectives cynically revealed in Mein Kampf were already realized; this book . . . was written by the Jesuit controlled Father Bernhardt Stempfle and signed by Hitler. For . . . it was the Society of Jesus which perfected the famous Pan-German programme as laid out in this book, and the Fuhrer endorsed it."

    Source: Edmond Paris, The Secret History of the Jesuits, page 138

    Franz von Papen, another powerful Nazi, who was instrumental in setting up the concordat between Germany and the Vatican had this to say: "The Third Reich is the first world power which not only acknowledges but also puts into practice the high principles of the papacy."

    Source: http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_03.asp


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    Over the last 400 years the Jesuits have succeeded in establishing the largest worldwide network of schools and universities.

    These prominent schools and universities, have produced many well known alumni. Thus, the Jesuits have been able to shape and mould the thinking of many famous world leaders, and produce generations of political and religious leaders who were favorable to the Roman Catholic Church, and her doctrinal agenda.

    The renowned British preacher, Charles Haddon Spurgeon, once warned about the church ministers who are graduating from these universities that “… they keep back a portion of the gospel … having studied in the devil’s new Jesuitical college.”
    Source: Charles H. Spurgeon “A Solemn Warning for All Churches,” Sermon No. 68

    Fact #5

    Agents of the Jesuits have been responsible for assassinating many heads of State over the centuries:


    Heads of states were assassinated by the Jesuits, when they attempt to suppress the influence and meddling of the Jesuits in their national affairs. Of heads of states that are known to have been assassinated by Jesuits we mention for example: William of Orange, Kings Henry III and Henry IV of France, Czars Alexander I and Alexander II of Russia, President Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy, and Mexican President Benito Pablo Juarez.

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    Abraham Lincoln was fully aware of the evil nature of the Jesuits. He stated, “... it is not against the Americans of the South, alone, I am fighting. It is more against the Pope of Rome, his perfidious Jesuits and their blind and blood-thirsty slaves that we have to defend ourselves.”

    Source: Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, by Charles Chiniquy. p. 496

    “It would seem that the Jesuits had had it in mind, from the beginning of the war [the American Civil War of 1861-1865], to find an occasion for the taking off [i.e., the assassination] of Mr. [Abraham] Lincoln.”
    Source: Thomas M. Harris (U.S. Army Brigadier General; Author of the book Rome’s Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln)

    “The favorite policy of the Jesuits [is] that of assassination.”
    Source: U.S. Army Brigadier General Thomas M. Harris; “Rome’s Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln”; 1897; Page 19)

    “It is of faith that the Pope has the right of deposing heretical and rebel kings. Monarchs so deposed by the Pope are converted into notorious tyrants, and may be killed by the first who can reach them.
    “If the public cause cannot meet with its defense in the death of a tyrant, it is lawful for the first who arrives, to assassinate him.”

    [Defensio Didei, Jesuit Suarez, Book VI. C 4, Nos. 13, 14]


    [Donald] Freed remembers what apparently passes for polite conversation when men such as [William] Colby and [Ray] Cline get together. “It was quite bizarre” Freed said, “for the subject they chose was, ‘When is it acceptable to assassinate a head of state?’ Colby presented what he said was a theological and philosophically sound approach. “The Catholic Church,” he said, “had long since wrestled with this question and had,” to Colby’s mind, emerged with a sound concept: “It is acceptable,” he said, “to assassinate a tyrant." [Donald Freed is a friend of the author, Mark Lane. He organized a conference at USC for the U.S. intelligence community and its critics to meet. In the panel were Lane, Ellsberg and John Gerassi, all critics. On the other side were William Colby, former DCI (Director of Central Intelligence from September 1973 to January 1976), David Atlee Phillips, and Ray Cline, former deputy DCI’s.]

    [Plausible Denial, Mark Lane, 1991, p. 85]

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    President John F. Kennedy was another victim of appalling Jesuit wickedness. Once he outwardly distanced himself from the Papal agenda and stood for more liberal ideals and human rights, he was considered, by their standards, a traitor to the Vatican and a “tyrant” worthy of death.



    This is an excerpt from “Vatican Assassins” by Eric Jon Phelps:

    Knowing that President Kennedy was not going to escalate the Vietnam War, the Intelligence Community began to prepare for his assassination. . . . Cardinal Spellman [Francis Spellman, Archbishop of New York from 1939-1967], through FDR, had arranged the release of “Lucky” Luciano . . . Now the Cardinal needed a favor. If refused, Spellman could use the entire intelligence community which he had helped to organize, to eliminate any mob boss. If agreed to, new gambling centers would open up, Atlantic City in particular. Clearly, if the President [JFK] was removed, everybody would acquire more power and wealth, the intelligence community would become more absolute, and the Cardinal would be even more respected by his peers in Rome.
    Later, in 1964, for the first time in history, the Pope of Rome set foot in Fourteenth Amendment America. Cardinal Spellman had performed well and was rewarded by a visit from his Master, fellow Cold Warrior and Vatican Ratline handler, Cardinal Montini, who was now Pope Paul VI. There is yet another reason for the removal of President Kennedy. He wanted to arm Israel. Loftus writes:

    “In September 1962 Kennedy decided to supply Israel with defensive ground-to-air missiles capable of stopping aircraft, but not the Egyptian offensive missiles. It was the first arms sale by the U.S. Government to Israel.... Kennedy promised the Israelis that as soon as the 1964 election was over, he would break the CIA ‘into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds’.... With Kennedy’s assassination in November 1963, the Israelis lost the best friend they had in the White House since Truman departed.” Source: The Secret War Against The Jews, John Loftus, 1994]

    And why did the Vatican’s Jesuits not want any arms sales to Israel at this time? Why did the Jesuit-controlled President Johnson turn his back as the Egyptian army moved up through the Sinai desert to prepare its assault on Israel in 1967? Because the attack upon Israel had to be provoked. That attack was provoked by the Jesuits’ International Intelligence Community through Egypt falsely perceiving the weakness of the Israeli army and the supposed abandonment of Israel by the American Empire. The six-day war, engineered by Knight of Malta James Angleton, had one primary purpose: the taking of Jerusalem along with the Temple Mount. The apparent lack of military hardware on the part of Israel provoked the planned attack by Egypt. Therefore, Israel launched a preemptive strike and, in six days, the holy city was in the hands of Rome’s Zionist government.

    Had Kennedy armed Israel, the Egyptians would never have been emboldened to maneuver for war. With no provoked war, there would have been no Israeli attack. With no Israeli attack, Jerusalem would never have been taken by the Zionists, controlled by the Jesuits’ Mossad. With Jerusalem in Arab hands, the Zionists could never rebuild Solomon’s Temple—unbeknown to them—for the Jesuits’ “infallible” Pope,
    “Who opposeth and exalted himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so he is God sitteth in the temple of God [Solomon’s rebuilt temple], showing himself that he is God.”
    -[II Thes 2:4]

    It is safe to say that the Jesuit General, using the Pope with his most powerful Cardinal, [assassinated President Kennedy].

    Source: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican03.htm#THE JESUITS — 1945-1990

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    One might assume that this emotive painting would hang somewhere in Dallas, Texas or perhaps in the Smithsonian. And one would be wrong on both counts. This painting of President John F. Kennedy's gruesome assassination, by Mark Balma, hangs in the Vatican Cathedral of St. Paul. The painting is entitled “Pietà” after Michelangelo’s famous sculpture of Mary holding the body of the crucified Christ, which is also located at the Vatican. Isn’t this a macabre way to “celebrate” the life of perhaps America’s most beloved President? or is this rather an homage to the Jesuit agenda, serving as a stern warning/reminder to those willing to cross them?

    Image: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2006/11/15/jfkpieta


    Fact #6

    The Jesuits today control all the powerful secret societies that are shaping the New World Order

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    “The list of secret societies being controlled by the Jesuits today include: the Freemasonry, the Knights of Malta, the Bilderberg group, and the higher levels of the Knights of Columbus, and the highest levels of Opus Dei – and all the subgroups that fall under these powerful entities.”

    Source: http://www.toughissues.org/the jesuit oder.htm

    "There are still …[men and women] about the country, who will tell you, with grim gravity that, if you trace up Masonry, through all its Orders, till you come to the grand tip-top, head Mason of the world, you will discover that the dread individual and the Chief of the Society of Jesus are one and the same person!"

    Source: James Parton, 1855, American Historian, The Black Pope, M.F. Cusack, (London: Marshall, Russell & Co., 1896) p. 76.

    If the above is true, than the example below would be a meeting of two of the most powerful men on Earth! The Head of the Jesuits and the Pope, who is also a Jesuit.

    Father General Nicolás [Superior General of the Society of Jesus/Jesuits] meets with Pope Francis and wrote of his experience.

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    “At the personal invitation of the Pope Francis I went to the Santa Marta House. . . He was at the entrance and received me with the usual Jesuit embrace. We had a few pictures taken, at his request, and at my apologies for not keeping protocol he insisted that I treat him like any other Jesuit at the “Tu” level, so I did not have to worry about addressing him as “Your Holiness,” or “Holy Father.” I offered him all our Jesuit resources because in his new position he is going to need counsel, thinking, persons, etc. He showed gratitude for this and at the invitation to visit us for lunch at the Curia he said he would oblige. There was full commonality of feeling on several issues that we discussed and I remained with the conviction that we will work very well together for the service of the Church …

    There was calm, humor and mutual understanding about past, present and future. I left the Casa de Santa Marta convinced that the Pope will gladly count on our collaboration in the vineyard of the Lord. At the end he helped me with my coat and accompanied me to the door. That added a couple of salutes to me from the Swiss Guards there. A Jesuit embrace, once again, as the natural way to greet and send off a friend.”

    http://news.sjnen.org/2013/03/father-general-meets-with-pope-francis/

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    Fact #7

    The Jesuits are responsible for fomenting the two world wars and escalating the Vietnam War after President Kennedy’s assassination:



    Image URL: http://www.chick.com/catalog/books/images/0191.jpg

    “The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the starting of the two world wars – a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict.”
    Source: Edmond Paris, The Secret History of the Jesuits, page 9

    Here is a link to the entire e-book- http://www.spirituallysmart.com/Paris-The_Secret_History_of_Jesuits_1975.pdf



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    The documented atrocities committed by the Jesuits, particularly those under the Ustachi (or Ustaše) are particularly disturbing and shocking, especially since there are actual photographs of such evil. This didn’t happen hundreds or thousands of years ago. It happened in the 1940’s! Here are a few links to some of the nothing short of satanic genocide the Ustachi carried out under the rule of Ante Pavelić, a Catholic Croatian fascist leader, who occupied part of Yugoslavia for Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, and ultimately for the Papacy. For many in Yugoslavia it was either convert to Catholicism or be brutally tortured and killed.
    (Left image - Pavelić facing Cardinal Stepinac who was arrested for War crimes and went to jail and died under house arrest but was beautified by the Pope JPII in 1998.)
    (Right image - Catholic Bishops giving the Nazi salute in honor of Hitler; Note far right: Joseph Goebbels and second from right: Wilhelm Frick)
    (Below image – Ustachi symbol)

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    http://www.chick.com/reading/books/153/153_03b.asp

    http://www.reformation.org/holoc3.html

    http://www.spirituallysmart.com/genocide_in_croatia.pdf


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    Fact #8

    After Pope Pius VII was freed from exile in 1814, his first order of business upon returning to Rome was to restore the Jesuit order

    The papacy suffered great humiliation at the hand of Napoleon. Thus, right after the defeat of Napoleon in 1814, Pope Pius VII was freed from imprisonment and was returned to Rome. The need to restore the Jesuit militia became an urgent matter. Rome did not want to be deprived again of the services of the Jesuits, no matter how burdensome this service was to the Church of Rome, and its allies.

    “In the agreement to rescue Rome [i.e., the Roman Catholic Church’s hierarchy] from the predicament of losing its world control to Protestantism, and to preserve the spiritual and temporal supremacy which the popes [had] ‘usurped’ during the Middle Ages, Rome now ‘sold’ the [Roman Catholic] Church to the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuits]; in essence the popes surrendered themselves into their hands.”
    Source: John Daniel (“The Grand Design Exposed”; 1999; Page 64)

    Fact #9

    The Jesuit Order took over the Office of Inquisition shortly after it was sanctioned and this led to the martyrdom of millions of saints

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    In 1254 Pope Alexander IV established the Office of the Inquisition. The first inquisitor was Dominic, who was the founder of the Dominican order of monks.

    However, shortly after Pope Paul III sanctioned the Society of Jesus, the Office of Inquisition was revived and the Pope gave free reign to the Jesuits to run this office, and the inquisitor Generals were granted exceptional powers in carrying out their mandate to root out of all “heretics.” This caused the martyrdom of millions of saints.

    The quotes below show the effect of Jesuits taking over the Office of the Inquisition:

    “Need I speak to you of the thirty years’ war in Germany, which was mainly instigated by the Jesuits, in order to deprive the Protestants of the right of free religious worship, secured to them by the treaty of Augsburg? Or of the Irish rebellion, of the inhuman butchery of about fifteen millions of Indians in South America, Mexico and Cuba, by the Spanish papists? In short, it is calculated by authentic historians, that papal Rome has shed the blood of sixty-eight millions of the human race in order to establish her unfounded claims to religious dominion.” Source: Dr. Brownlee’s “Popery an enemy to civil liberty”, p. 105

    “This was the century of the last religious wars in “Christendom,” the Thirty Years’ War in Germany, fomented by the Jesuits, reducing the people to cannibalism, and the population of Bohemia from 4,000,000 to 780,000, and of Germany from 20,000,000 to 7,000,000, and making Southern Germany almost a desert, ...”

    Source: Cushing B. Hassell, History of the Church of God, Chapter XVII.

    Writing about the Jesuits, [John] Lord states

    “They are accused of securing the revocation of the Edict of Nantes,-- one of the greatest crimes in the history of modern times, which led to the expulsion of four hundred thousand Protestants from France, and the execution of four hundred thousand more.”

    Source: John Lord, Beacon Lights of History, volume VI, p. 325.

    “In Bohemia, by 1600, in a population of 4,000,000, 80 per cent were Protestant. When the Hapsburgs and Jesuits had done their work, 800,000 were left, all Catholics.”

    Source: Henry H., Pocket Bible Handbook, Chicago, 13th edition, 1939, p. 790.

    Fact #10

    The Jesuits succeeded in their destructive agenda through dominating the confessor field wherever they went

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    “The Jesuits became the predominant group supplying confessors to (meaning, hearers of the confessions of) kings and princes and those in authority. As the New Catholic Encyclopedia says, "they acted as royal confessor to all French kings for 2 centuries, from Henry III to Louis XV; to all German emperors after the early 17th century; to all Dukes of Bavaria after 1579; to most rulers of Poland and Portugal; to princely families throughout Europe.

    “As advisors to kings, they influenced political policy. A royal confessor was not slow to tell a king that he had a duty to make the kind of political alliances that would promote the temporal interests of the Church. It was Le Tellier, Jesuit confessor to Louis XIV, who in the 1680's persuaded that monarch to revoke the Edict of Nantes, which granted religious liberty to Protestants.”

    Source: http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/44.html

    The Jesuits are even confessors of popes. “The Pope’s confessor, an ordinary priest, must be a Jesuit: he must visit the Vatican once a week at a fixed time, and he alone may absolve the Pope of his sins.”

    Source: http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception-The-New-Superior-General-A-Wolf-in-Sheeps-Clothing

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    Conclusion:

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    Ignatius Loyola - Jesuit Founder - by Francisco Zurbaran.

    Given the above historic facts about the Jesuits, it is incredulous and most shocking to see the media and the world’s religious and political leaders stampeding to endorse and praise Pope Francis. We have no words to describe this unprecedented worldwide epidemic of memory loss towards Rome and her Jesuits.

    The prescient warning of General Sherman is most appropriate to quote today:

    “I would remind you of Webster’s definition of a Jesuit: a designer, an intriguer. If the Church of Rome prevailed, the Pope would be the Universal King . . . The Jesuits are here to plot and scheme and, if possible, take from us the noble heritage of our civil and religious freedom. The rules of the Jesuit Order justify theft, licentiousness, lying, false-witness bearing, suicide and the murder of parents and other relatives. The greatest crimes in history committed against individuals and nations have been committed by the Jesuits . . . Wherever Jesuits are they have the torch to burn, the sword to slay, the inquisition to torture. They are the enemies of [Bible-believing] Christianity. They live for conquest, fortune and glory.”

    Source: General Sherman’s Son: The Life of Thomas Ewing Sherman, S.J., Joseph T. Durkin, S. J., (New York: Farrar, Straus and Cudahy, 1959) p. 186.

    It is our duty to as followers of Yahuwah to expose Rome and her Jesuits, and to pray for the utter destruction of their evil deceit. Prayer is the only weapon we have against this veiled enemy we face today. Rome and her Jesuits are the greatest enemy of the Gospel and of humanity. However, we are assured in His prophetic Word that they will not prevail. The Harlot will be utterly destroyed prior to the Second Coming of Yahushua:

    “And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.” Revelation 17:16.

    Praise His name for ever and ever!!
     
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    ROME — Pope Francis has publicly endorsed an essay that appeared in 2017 criticizing relations between Evangelicals and Catholics in the United States as an “ecumenism of hate.”


    On Thursday, La Civiltà Cattolica journal released the transcript of a meeting between Pope Francis and a group of 24 Jesuits on September 5, 2019, during his recent trip to Mozambique in which the pope suggested that certain Evangelical Protestants in the United States “cannot really be defined as Christian.”

    “Two important articles in Civiltà Cattolica have been published in this regard. I recommend them to you. They were written by Father Spadaro and the Argentinean Presbyterian pastor, Marcelo Figueroa. The first article spoke of the ‘ecumenism of hatred.’ The second was on the ‘theology of prosperity,’” the pontiff said.

    “Reading them you will see that there are sects that cannot really be defined as Christian. They preach Christ, yes, but their message is not Christian,” the pope said. “It has nothing to do with the preaching of a Lutheran or any other serious evangelical Christianity.”

    In the first essay recommended by the pope, the authors, who are both friends of Francis, slammed conservative Christians in the U.S. as ignorant, theocratic, Manichean, war-mongering fanatics.

    For the “Evangelical right,” the authors proposed, the panorama of threats to the American way of life “have included modernist spirits, the black civil rights movement, the hippy movement, communism, feminist movements and so on. And now in our day there are the migrants and the Muslims.”

    The authors did not hesitate to suggest that many Evangelicals are southern racists who reject climate change.

    “Another interesting aspect is the relationship with creation of these religious groups that are composed mainly of whites from the deep American South,” the article stated. “There is a sort of ‘anesthetic’ with regard to ecological disasters and problems generated by climate change. They profess ‘dominionism’ and consider ecologists as people who are against the Christian faith.”

    Throughout the essay, the authors criticize a string of exclusively Republican presidents as being tainted by the teachings of Evangelical Protestantism. The list of those mentioned includes Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, and, of course, Donald Trump.

    One of the most serious evils of American Evangelical Christians, the article stated, is “the defense of religious liberty,’” which takes the form of “a direct virtual challenge to the secularity of the state.”

    The authors went on to denounce the ecumenical alliance between conservative Catholics and Evangelical Christians who align behind certain moral issues in the public square.

    “Some who profess themselves to be Catholic express themselves in ways that until recently were unknown in their tradition and using tones much closer to Evangelicals. They are defined as value voters as far as attracting electoral mass support is concerned,” the article asserted.

    This poisonous alliance over shared objectives “happens around such themes as abortion, same-sex marriage, religious education in schools and other matters generally considered moral or tied to values,” the essay claimed, which unite Catholics and Evangelicals in “the nostalgic dream of a theocratic type of state.”

    At the time of its publication, the article triggered an avalanche of critical responses denouncing the ignorance and political ill-will underlying the essay.

    Philadelphia Archbishop Charles J. Chaput, for instance, wrote a sharp criticism of the essay, saying that the authors were guilty of “dumbing down and inadequately presenting the nature of Catholic/evangelical cooperation on religious freedom and other key issues.”

    “Dismissing today’s attacks on religious liberty as a ‘narrative of fear,’” as the La Civiltà Cattolica article does, Chaput said, “sounds willfully ignorant.”

    In his critique of the article, Dr. Samuel Gregg called the article “disturbing,” while lamenting the tacit anti-Americanism and “distinctly amateur grasp of American religious history.”

    As Dr. Gregg noted, to describe “Marxism-Leninism, Islamist jihadism, or National Socialism” as evil is not evidence of a Manichaean worldview. “It is simply recognition that some ideas are indeed wicked and lead to many people, even nations, engaging in gravely evil acts.”

    Moreover, Gregg wrote, if one looks at statements put together by various scholars and intellectuals involved in movements such as Evangelicals and Catholics Together, “they contain not a shred of theocratic aspiration.”

    “The ecumenical discussion between those involved in these endeavors have led over time to genuine fruit in terms of clarification of points in common, removing misconceptions, identifying real doctrinal road-blocks, and identifying areas where practical work to promote the common good can be pursued together,” Gregg observed.

    It is not a theocratic nostalgia that leads Evangelical and Catholic Christians in America to make the argument that “unborn human beings are entitled to the same protections from the unjust use of lethal force as any other human being, or that religious liberty is more than just freedom of worship, or that parents are entitled to insist that their children not be subjected to the nonsense of ‘gender theory’ at school,” Gregg added.

    The published criticisms of the original article by serious scholars, both Christian and secular, ended up being so numerous they could fill a book. The article was eventually dismissed as simply an embarrassing attempt at political propaganda by overly zealous Italian and Argentinian clerics who were completely out of their depth.

    Which could lead one to wonder what Pope Francis could possibly be thinking when he dredges up this ill-begotten essay out of the swamp of oblivion to recommend it as a useful aid for understanding America’s complex religious landscape.
     
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    A lot to process. But yes the Pope is a bit of a socialist. Some of his proclamations are ah awful. If this is what to expect from the Franciscan order can't wait for a change.
     
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    Francis is a jesuit. first jesuit pope I think.
     
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    POPE FRANCIS APPOINTS 13 NEW CHRISLAM-FRIENDLY CARDINALS WHO WILL HELP GUIDE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH INTO ADDING BOTH THE LGBTQ+ AND ISLAM
    The Chrislam appointments, which can be compared to the selection of cabinet ministers upon a new government, come from countries such as Democratic Republic of the Congo, Angola, Indonesia, Morocco, Cuba or Guatemala -- representing "the Church's missionary outreach and universal character," according to Vatican News. Among his picks, Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Miguel Guixot, the President of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue. Guixot has a long history of working with Muslim leaders on religious cooperation, having spearheaded talks with Grand Imam Ahmed el-Tayeb of Cairo's Al-Azhar mosque, and represents Pope Francis' push for interreligious dialogue between Catholics and Muslims.
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    Pope Francis has appointed 13 new Chrislam-friendly cardinals during a ceremony at the Vatican on Saturday, many of whom symbolize his priorities for the Catholic Church during his papacy and ultimately, his legacy.
    What started as a trickle has turned into a full-on prophetic flood of activity surrounding the moves in 2019 by Pope Francis to create the One World Religion of Chrislam as foretold in the book of Revelation. With the Roman Catholic Church representing counterfeit Christianity, we are seeing the Vatican working to add not only Islam but the LGBTQ+P for Pedophile Movement as well, and they have already made incredible strides as you will in this breaking story. Just last week we told you that construction had been approved on the new Chrislam headquarters in Abu Dhabi that sent prophecy shock waves around the world.

    “For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” Revelation 17:17,18 (KJV)

    So here we see Pope Francis appointing new cardinals, 13 of them to be exact, nothing new about that, right? Happens all the time, right? Wrong. What is different about the appoint of these 13 cardinals is that every, single one of them are in agreement with the pope on the covenant of ‘mutual brotherhood’ signed back and February, and on adding the LGBTQ+ as ‘members in good standing’ to the Catholic Church. This is Chrislam, and the addition of these two seemingly opposing groups represents over 1.5 billion people. (The mere fact that the pope is able to form an alliance with both the LGBTQ+ and Islam should show you who is the power behind him.) When added to the Roman harlot, that will create a One World Religion that is comprised of nearly 50% of the global population! Are you now starting to see how massive the end times army of Antichrist will be? This is what these 13 new cardinals truly represent, and as long as we are on the subject, remember that 13 in the Bible is the number of rebellion.

    “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.” Revelation 13:11,12 (KJV)

    It is wonderfully startling to see all these things, decades in the making, now not only coming to life but in a blizzard of prophetical activity. Remember when you first got saved and read the Bible, and wished that you lived in a day when prophecy was being fulfilled in front of you? Remember when you first read ‘Left Behind‘ and longed to see that level of prophecy come leaping off the pages of the Bible? Welcome to that day. Flight #777 on Titus213 Airlines now boarding…

    Pope Francis appoints 13 cardinals who reflect his inclusive Chrislam vision for the Roman Catholic Church
    FROM CNN: The Pontiff’s new cardinals have defended the commitment to fighting populism, supported the inclusion of gay Catholics, sought to improve inter-religious dialogue with Muslim communities, and expressed concern with the environment and youth issues, according to their biographies.

    The appointments, which can be compared to the selection of cabinet ministers upon a new government, come from countries such as Democratic Republic of the Congo, Angola, Indonesia, Morocco, Cuba or Guatemala — representing “the Church’s missionary outreach and universal character,” according to Vatican News. Among his picks, Pope Francis appointed Cardinal Miguel Guixot, the President of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue.

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    Guixot has a long history of working with Muslim leaders on religious cooperation, having spearheaded talks with Grand Imam Ahmed el-Tayeb of Cairo’s Al-Azhar mosque, and represents Pope Francis’ push for interreligious dialogue between Catholics and Muslims.

    As does Cristobal Romero, archbishop of Rabat, is representative “of the church in North Africa,” Vatican News writes. British citizen Michael Louis Fitzgerald has worked with people “from other faiths, especially from the Arab culture,” and Indonesian Ignatius Suharyo Hardjoatmodjo, who will work as a bridge to South East Asia and to Indonesia, a country “with the biggest Muslim following in the world,” Vatican News says.

    Newly minted Cardinal Matteo Zuppi of Bologna is a supporter of LGBT Catholics, writing an essay for the Italian version of a book on how the Catholic church can reach out to the gay community, according to a tweet by the book’s author, the American Jesuit priest James Martin.

    Pope Francis also appointed Jean-Claude Hollerich from Luxembourg, who has been outspoken about the importance of fighting populism and protecting migrants. Alvaro Imeri, from Guatemala, was also picked because of “his openness to dialogue, especially among indigenous people and migrants.” Archbishop of Kinshasa, DRC, Fridolin Besungu was also appointed to contribute to peace in his country and the region. READ MORE

    The creation of 13 new Cardinals, from St. Peter’s Basilica, Vatican City. Presided by Pope Francis. The new Cardinals are as follows:
    1. Miguel Ángel Cardinal Ayuso Guixot, M.C.C.J. (Spain), Titular Bishop of Luperciana, President of Pontifical Council for Inter-Religious Dialogue and Prefect of Commission for Religious Relations with Muslims, as Cardinal-Deacon
    2. José Tolentino Cardinal Calaça de Mendonça (Portugal), Titular Archbishop of Suava, Librarian of Vatican Apostolic Library and Archivist of Vatican Secret Archives, as Cardinal-Deacon 3.
    3. Ignatius Cardinal Suharyo Hardjoatmodjo, Metropolitan Archbishop of Jakarta (Indonesia), Military Ordinary of Indonesia, as Cardinal-Priest
    4. Juan de la Caridad Cardinal García Rodríguez, Metropolitan Archbishop of La Habana (Cuba), as Cardinal-Priest
    5. Fridolin Cardinal Ambongo Besungu, O.F.M. Cap., Metropolitan Archbishop of Kinshasa (Congo-Kinshasa), as Cardinal-Priest
    6. Jean-Claude Cardinal Hollerich, S.J., Archbishop of Luxembourg (Luxembourg) and President of Commission of the Bishops’ Conferences of the European Community, as Cardinal-Priest
    7. Álvaro Leonel Cardinal Ramazzini Imeri, Bishop of Huehuetenango (Guatemala), as Cardinal-Priest
    8. Matteo Maria Cardinal Zuppi, Metropolitan Archbishop of Bologna (Italy), as Cardinal-Priest
    9. Cristóbal López Cardinal Romero, S.D.B., Archbishop of Rabat (Morocco) and Apostolic Administrator of Tánger (Morocco), as Cardinal-Priest
    10. Michael Cardinal Czerny, S.J., Titular Archbishop of Beneventum, Undersecretary of Migrant and Refugee Section of Dicastery for Promoting Integral Human Development, as Cardinal-Deacon
    11. Michael Louis Cardinal Fitzgerald, M. Afr., Titular Archbishop of Nepte, Apostolic Nuncio emeritus to Egypt and Delegate emeritus to League of Arab States (LAS), as Cardinal-Deacon
    12. Sigitas Cardinal Tamkevičius, S.J., Metropolitan Archbishop emeritus of Kaunas (Lithuania), as Cardinal-Priest
    13. Eugenio Cardinal Dal Corso, P.S.D.P., Bishop emeritus of Benguela (Angola)
     
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    POPE FRANCIS TELLS INTERVIEWER THAT JESUS CHRIST WAS BORN AS ‘EXCEPTIONAL MAN’ BUT HE WAS ‘NOT AT ALL A GOD’ AS VATICAN DOESN’T DENY OR DEMAND CORRECTION OF ACCOUNT
    According to the highly respected Catholic blog, Rorate Caeli, and Radio Spada in Italy, Scalfari states in the Oct. 9 edition of La Repubblica (behind paywall) the following: "Those who, as it has happened many times with me, have had the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the greatest cultural intimacy, know that Pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate." "Once incarnate, Jesus stops being a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross." Scalfari continues, "When I had the chance of discussing these sentences, Pope Francis told me: 'They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'"


    Pope Francis told me: ‘They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'”
    The most amazing thing about this story is that neither Pope Francis nor the Vatican had denied the pope made these statements, and neither have they asked La Repubblica to correct the account or retract the statements in full. So that leads me to believe that Pope Francis did indeed make them, and that this shocking accounting is indeed true and accurate. Don’t forget that Eugenio Scalfari and Pope Francis are longtime friends. Scarfari would not misrepresent his dear friend, and the pope feels comfortable enough around him because of that friendship to let his guard down.

    “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)

    But Pope Francis has a long and proven track record of denying Jesus Christ, and making statements like it is ‘dangerous to have a personal relationship with Jesus‘. Last year with the same interviewer Scalfari and also in La Repubblica, Pope Francis said that ‘Hell is not real‘ and never denied saying that, either, and the Vatican never asked for a correction or retraction. So maybe we should ask ourselves why Pope Francis is continuing to make these outrageous statements.

    “For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” Isaiah 14:13,14 (KJV)

    If you have been following our reporting on the Catholic Church and Chrislam, then you already know why the pope makes these types of statements. Because as he continues to assemble the One World Religion, he thinks of himself as a god, not unlike the passages we read in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 about Lucifer. Now you know, tell a friend.

    Eugenio Scalfari: Pope Francis Told Me That Jesus Incarnate Was a ‘Man … Not at All a God’
    FROM CNS NEWS: In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis’ longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims that the Pope told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a man, a “man of exceptional virtues” but “not at all a God.”

    The teaching of the Catholic Church and most Christian churches is that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was incarnated as fully man and fully God.

    As the Catechism of the Catholic Church states, “The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man. During the first centuries, the Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it. (464)”

    According to the highly respected Catholic blog, Rorate Caeli, and Radio Spada in Italy, Scalfari states in the Oct. 9 edition of La Repubblica (behind paywall) the following: “Those who, as it has happened many times with me, have had the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the greatest cultural intimacy, know that Pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate.”

    “ONCE INCARNATE, JESUS STOPS BEING A GOD AND BECOMES A MAN UNTIL HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS.”

    Scalfari continues, “When I had the chance of discussing these sentences, Pope Francis told me: ‘They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'”

    In a March 2018 interview with Scalfari, Pope Francis reportedly said, “There is no Hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls.”

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    ANTICHRIST: POPE FRANCIS TELLS CATHOLICS IN ROME THAT A ‘PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP’ WITH JESUS IS ‘DANGEROUS AND HARMFUL’

    That interview caused an uproar and the Vatican claimed that what the Pope reportedly said was a “reconstruction” and not “quoted.” The Vatican did not deny what Scalfari reported but said it could not “be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father.”

    THE POPE HIMSELF NEVER DENIED WHAT SCALFARI REPORTED AND THE ARTICLE NEVER RAN A CORRECTION OR REMOVED THE ARTICLE FROM ITS WEBSITE.

    Commenting on this latest revelation, Rorate Caeli said, “Now, obviously, as it has often happened with Francis’ informal interviews with Eugenio Scalfari, some will try to deny the veracity of what Scalfari, a seasoned journalist, affirms.

    “Let us just recall, for the record of events, that there is no reason to doubt its general accuracy. We are way past the time of doubting the general accuracy of the Scalfari quotes.

    “Not now, that the papal interviews to Scalfari have been published on the Vatican website, that they have been occasionally published by the Vatican publishing house (LEV) itself – for instance, as part of the book to the right.”

    In a statement issued Oct. 9, reported by Church Militant in Rome, the Vatican said, “As has been affirmed in other occasions, the words that Dr. Eugenio Scalfari attributes between quotes to the Holy Father during his colloquies held with him cannot be considered as a faithful account of what was effectively said, but represent more a personal and free interpretation of that which he heard, as appears entirely evident from what was written today concerning the divinity of Jesus Christ.”

    Church Militant’s Michael Voris commented, “That is the relevant part of the statement, and it, in itself, is now creating its own firestorm because it does not actually deny Scalfari’s characterization, merely hinting at the possibility.”

    “Likewise, it does not affirm in any fashion that Pope Francis does indeed hold the divinity of Christ during Our Savior’s earthly ministry,” said Voris. READ MORE
     
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    This story was updated at 2:25 p.m EST to include a brief statementfrom the Vatican, which does not deny what Scalfari reported about Pope Franics, only saying it "cannot be considered as a faithful account of what was effectively said, but represent more a personal free interpretation of that which he [Scalfari] heard." (See below.)

    In the latest edition of La Repubblica, Pope Francis' longtime atheist friend and interviewer, Eugenio Scalfari, claims that the Pope told him that once Jesus Christ became incarnate, he was a man, a "man of exceptional virtues" but "not at all a God."

    The teaching of the Catholic Church and most Christian churches is that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was incarnated as fully man and fully God.

    As the Catechism of the Catholic Church states, "The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man. During the first centuries, the Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it. (464)"

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    The birth of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
    According to the highly respected Catholic blog, Rorate Caeli, and Radio Spada in Italy, Scalfari states in the Oct. 9 edition of La Repubblica (behind paywall) the following: "Those who, as it has happened many times with me, have had the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the greatest cultural intimacy, know that Pope Francis conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate."





    "Once incarnate, Jesus stops being a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross."

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    Scalfari continues, "When I had the chance of discussing these sentences, Pope Francis told me: 'They are the proven proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once having become a man, was, though a man of exceptional virtues, not at all a God.'"

    In a March 2018 interview with Scalfari, Pope Francis reportedly said, "There is no Hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."

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    That interview caused an uproar and the Vatican claimed that what the Pope reportedly said was a "reconstruction" and not "quoted." The Vatican did not deny what Scalfari reported but said it could not "be considered as a faithful transcription of the words of the Holy Father."

    The Pope himself never denied what Scalfari reported and the article never ran a correction or removed the article from its website.

    Commenting on this latest revelation, Rorate Caeli said, "Now, obviously, as it has often happened with Francis' informal interviews with Eugenio Scalfari, some will try to deny the veracity of what Scalfari, a seasoned journalist, affirms.

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    (Screenshot, Rorate Caeli)
    "Let us just recall, for the record of events, that there is no reason to doubt its general accuracy. We are way past the time of doubting the general accuracy of the Scalfari quotes.

    "Not now, that the papal interviews to Scalfari have been published on the Vatican website, that they have been occasionally published by the Vatican publishing house (LEV) itself - for instance, as part of the book to the right."

    In a statement issued Oct. 9, reported by Church Militant in Rome, the Vatican said, "As has been affirmed in other occasions, the words that Dr. Eugenio Scalfari attributes between quotes to the Holy Father during his colloquies held with him cannot be considered as a faithful account of what was effectively said, but represent more a personal and free interpretation of that which he heard, as appears entirely evident from what was written today concerning the divinity of Jesus Christ."

    Church Militant's Michael Voris commented, "That is the relevant part of the statement, and it, in itself, is now creating its own firestorm because it does not actually deny Scalfari's characterization, merely hinting at the possibility."

    "Likewise, it does not affirm in any fashion that Pope Francis does indeed hold the divinity of Christ during Our Savior's earthly ministry," said Voris.

    h/t Rorate Caeli
     

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