Pledis positivity [A Thread]

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  1. Neurotic02

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    i know many people like to diss pledis (me included) but there are the other side of coin in life

    1. They dont force their artists to perform if they injured
    some companies may force their artists to perform with unwell condition but thats not the case for pledis. even when vernon's eyes got red from irritation pledis announced a short break for him, during concert if a member is sick and keep performing, then the case must be because they are reluctant to keep performing (see Hit The Road Seventeen documentary ep 2&3)

    2. freedom of self-producing
    producing song may be a common thing nowadays, but Pledis give the freedom to their artists (Woozi for Svt and Baekho for Nuest) and let them experimenting their songs even in title track. in Seventeen's case, they let them participating in choreography which need a high level of trust. for compensation Hoshi and performance team have to be assisted in title track but 100% freedom in b-side track

    3. they never sue their artist that terminate their contract
    the only case is Kyulkyung but the rest are parting with good situation

    4. crazy good with casting
    their artists mostly are street casted as in seventeen almost 10/13 are street casted


    imo, their main and only fatal downside is their management. as Han Seungsoo is a very great dancer (according to people in his college) thus why their artist have a good artistry, he is a bad manager or businessman i think :\


    EDITED: plus they never force them in a diet
     
    #1 Neurotic02, May 23, 2020
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    what? xd
     
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    Also are you gonna make a negative side of Pledis or?
     
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    i think thats a daily basis lol
     
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    if im not mistaken he is a dance major in a distinguished art campus
     
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    They let Pristin go, best thing they did for Pristin
     
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    If I'm being honest, I think they definitely improved starting 2017-2018 but the boys have been quite vocal about how it was an hellhole around 2015-2016. Maybe there was a change in management or they just straight up realised they'd better be good to Seventeen (and NU'EST after pd101) because they're the ones bringing in money lol

    But I've always appreciated the freedom they give to their artists, and they do have a keen eye for talent. Now if they could actually start crediting dino and hoshi for choreos, that'd be a step forward
     
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    i see

    but s in after school, nu'est, seventeen and pristin stands for SYNC

    maybe even hello venus lol
     
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    didn’t wonwoo go back on stage right after fainting?
     
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    yes, because he was persistent to keep performing. for ex, in jakarta both scoups and jeonghan cannot continue to perform and pledis let 2 of 13 to not perform, so it should be okay if wonwoo not continuing
     
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    yep during svt trainee days there was a rumor that the staff abusing the kids. later on the staff were reportedly fired
    their management seems to keep improving
     
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    Artists saying "oh i wanted to perform i was persistant" doesnt mean they actually wanted too in kpop, it very much could mean, he was forced.

    We would have no way of knowing
     
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    It was a thing during Aju Nice era too I believe, I remember one of the staff abusing SK because he spoke using dialect (or was that someone else?)
    But I agree, things are definitely a lot better now and you can definitely see it in how they behave around the staff
     
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    welp im not their staff to know in that extent. but what i see my point still stands. for example, during year end awards they werent in full formation in 2017 (minghao) and 2019 (scoups). during very nice wonwoo didnt participate

    sore muscle and iv and oxygen tank is common during tours and even as non kpop artist or as a performer.
     
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    If you watch seventeen’s documentary, 2nd EP, Wonwoo wasn’t forced by others, he went up by himself. Pledis never forced their artist to perform if they aren’t well.
     
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    It was such a shame though all that hype for nothing. And what they did to After School, keeping them in the dungeon for years, is still very hard to forgive.
     
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    you have no idea how salty I am about what they did about both groups. So I'm trying to be nice and positive.
    Also Seventeen is one talented group who deserves more light shined on them, but again I don't own the company nor have a saying in it.
     
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    Holy water being a dancer also contributes to their decent treatment. He knows how it feels to perform unlike the other companies who treat their artists like robots.
    Also, I remember SVT saying they were even afraid to ask for a snack back then, it only improves when they start making money.

    lastly, they treat their china line better!!!!!!! 5 years and still in the group :cryingk:

    where can you find chinese members not suing the company within the year after debut???
     
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    behind pristin disbandment is still a fog. some says it because internal problem between members? its soo shaddy. how can a company ignore a rising rookie that won major roty? it doesnt add up
     
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    I agree tbh, they have their faults, but some ppl shit on them WAYYY too much. They’ve done ok imo, but I hope they continue to be better (i will upload a han sung soo kawaii edit if pledis finally releases those damn solos)
     

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