[Official] List of injustices suffered by JYJ

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  1. waitingdb5k

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    I tought I posted this here but no... So, I'll copy-pass my post from OH.

    Since I was bored, I decided to make a list of all the injustices suffered by JYJ. I also noticed that it was quite a taboo subject and we actually avoided talking about it except when injustices occurs. So I wanted to share their "beautiful" CV with you so we can talk about it and to put light on this.


    N.B: Sorry for my english, I'm french.
    You can share everywhere (twitter, tumblr,...), but please let the sources. It took me more than 4 hours when I compilated this last year.

    UNFAIR TREATMENT EXPERIENCED BY JYJ OVER THE YEARS

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    2010
    (Jaejoong's friend, Park Yong Ha dies)

    - The original soundtrack for the wildly successful Korean drama SungKungKwan Scandal, which co-starred Park Yuchun, was allegedly held up by distributors. (ost of JYJ)
    - Television interviews with Yoochun were cancelled (despite success of the drama)
    - Accused of "double contract" with Cjes
    - Avex drop them because of C-jes CEO?? (more like to have SM' artists with them...)
    - JYJ visa denied. They can't earn money for their USA showcases (They perform free for fans and paid everything by their own money)
    - KFPCAI send out official letters of request to broadcasting stations to prevent JYJ's TV promotions (they send in distributions stations too)
    - SM asked for an injunction to keep the trio from releasing its new English-language album "The Beginning," sending a letter to Warner Music telling them not to distribute it.
    - "The beginning" removed of shops
    - SM prevent productors and lyrists to write songs or work with JYJ


    2011

    - SBS "Good morning" with JYJ is cancelled but after complaint, it's re-scheduled the 19 january
    - JYJ can't release CD (They release their CD (their room) as a book to bypass it)
    - Can't promote their CD in TV or radio
    - A Chinese singer steal Jaejoong composition "Wasurenaide", record and try to release it without give credit to Jaejoong

    - Indonesian concert was cancelled and the promoter blamed Jaejoong as the culprit for the cancellation
    - JYJ can't appeared on K-chart or performe on "music bank" (their room CD)
    - JYJ’s “Memories in 2010” DVD can't compete in the Oricon charts (because avex see it as a form of promotion)
    - Can't perform in Japan for Charity concert after earthquake in Japan because of Avex (they threat concert venue) [Finally, JYJ win and can perform]
    - Out of Jeju concert only few hours before although they are the ambassadors (SNSD and f(x) perform in their stance)
    - JYJ's real 24 cancelled by QTV
    - Jaejoong can't promote 'protect the boss' in TV with the cast because of ban
    - Can't promote "In heaven" in TV because of songs banned...
    - Concert in Korea CANCELLED

    2012
    (Yoochun's dad dies)

    - In 32nd Sports Day for the Handicapped, when Junsu will perform live in TV, camerams repack cameras
    - JYJ participation in Blue Dragon Film awards cancelled (for singing... Jaejoong and Yoochun can go to receive their prices)
    - When JYJ succeed in south America, JYJ sasaengs scandal of 2009 explose (coincidence -_-)
    - 20 Anti-fan arrested because they spread rumors
    - When they tried to hold a concert in Japan, they faced disruption in renting a concert hall so they had to face many rejections and search high and low for the one they eventually did find. When Japanese fans tried to rent buses to attend the concert, there were even disruptions made to the bus companies that canceled reservations.
    - JYJ's documentary 'The Day' canceled 10 days before big screen premiere
    - JYJ’s Korean goods are limited
    - ‘Elisabeth’ OST include any recordings by Kim Junsu
    - Until the sun rise full MV with Jaejoong cancelled

    2013

    - During presidential inauguration, announcers bash them live (They wait outside in cold)

    - LOEN Entertainment changed their terms for Junsu’s promotions (incredible album)
    - SM Entertainment and the KFPCAI caught red-handed in prohibiting JYJ’s activities
    - Jaejoong can't perform (living like a dream) even if it's the best OST of the year
    - JYJ suing netizens for defamatory lies
    -Tahiti (kpop group) use 'mission' intro song as their
    - 'Sensory Couple' cast go on Running Man as cameo without Yoochun


    2014
    (Junsu's grandma dies)

    - JYJ can't perform in Incheon Asian Game in which SM is sponsor (finally because of fans and complaints, they can perform during torch... So, not really the center of attention)
    - Taiwanese photographers and reporters declared a boycott against JYJ
    - JYJ isn't inclued in a Kpop book because of SM
    - Jaejoong can't attending to 2014 MBC Drama Awards (he had tweet about the fact that he was excited to see again Triangle cast but... --')

    2015
    (It's Junsu year... -__-)

    - SBS Park Sang Do announcer under controversy for mocking Kim Junsu fans, "We'll turn him back if we aren't satisfied" (while Junsu sing free to help his city)
    - “Gag Concert” Censors JYJ Junsu’s Name
    - Kim Junsu sues Cheonji Construction for defamation and filing a fraudulent lawsuit
    - No broadcast appareance despite his new album (october 2015)

    2016

    - Junsu won popularity award with payed votes of fans but can't attend in award show host by SM
    (Junsu thanks fans on V-app)
    - Junsu removed of Gaon Kpop Award nominations


    And...

    Since 2010, JYJ can't perform in TV (first time with Junsu in 2015 on ebs)
    They can't participate to Mama or no other award ceremony for CDs (solo or group)
    And their songs can't pass in radio or in streets!

    Fair Trade Commission Rules SM Guilty for intervenace with JYJ activities in 2011 but, nothing changed
    (http://seoulbeats.com/2011/12/fair-trade-commission-rules-sm-guilty-guilty-guilty/)
    In 2015, JYJ law passed but nothing change yet

    And I'm sure there's more behind scene and that they are more 'subtles' with years...
    If ever I forgot something, you can said it and I'll add.

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    Sources:
    http://www.allkpop.com/article/2011/03/qtv-cancels-jyjs-reality-show-jyjs-real-24
    http://www.allkpop.com/article/2010...asting-stations-to-prevent-jyjs-tv-promotions
    https://lovetohateme.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/injustice-against-jyj-again/
    http://seoulbeats.com/2011/07/kbs-blocks-jyj-broadcast-again-and-for-good-reason/
    http://sharingyoochun.net/2010/11/1...-the-bad-situation-crisis-into-opportunities/
    http://seoulbeats.com/2011/04/avex-the-next-cause-of-jyjs-ruin/
    http://www.allkpop.com/article/2010/09/jyj-dropped-from-avex-promotional-activities-on-hold
    http://www.dbsknights.net/2012/10/trans-injustice-that-happened-to-junsu.html
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QXbyYQjPbfXtdcRF4Uh9k-2wx_VUHzfbjV80ZnwsRHg/preview?pli=1
    http://www.allkpop.com/article/2014...e-main-stage-for-the-2014-incheon-asian-games
    http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2015/04/sbs-anchorman-mocks-jyjs-junsu-and-fans.html
    http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2013/07/tahiti-caught-using-jyjs-mission-intro.html
    http://www.allkpop.com/article/2012...y-canceled-10-days-before-big-screen-premiere
    http://sharingyoochun.net/2011/10/0...st-for-reexamination-for-banned-song-pierrot/
    http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2014/08/kbs-bans-songs-by-jyj-hyuna-yeeun-and.html
    https://jyj3.wordpress.com/2015/04/...jyj-junsus-name-fans-raise-voices-in-protest/
    http://www.allkpop.com/article/2015...ompanies-for-defamation-and-false-accusations
    https://jyj3.wordpress.com/2013/07/...ht-red-handed-in-prohibiting-jyjs-activities/
    http://www.allkpop.com/article/2013...rding-junsus-upcoming-showcase-and-promotions
    https://jyj3.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/trans-why-jyjs-korean-goods-are-limited/
    https://withjyj.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/news-kbs-explains-why-they-deleted-their-statement-regarding-jyj’s-broadcast-appearances/
    https://jyj3.wordpress.com/2011/03/...age-jyj-cancelled-their-concert-in-indonesia/
    http://omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com/12124417.html
    https://jyj3.wordpress.com/2011/12/...jyj-looking-back-the-year-since-jyjs-debut-1/
    http://onehallyu.com/topic/233488-japan-medianews-151015-jyj-junsu-“compared-to-other-singers-degree-of-exposure-to-general-public-is-around-one-hundredth”/
    https://one1nee.wordpress.com/2011/...ng-and-said-that-the-song-now-belong-to-them/
    http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.ca/2016/01/2015-seoul-music-awards-kim-junsu-wins.html

    Netizens comments each time they had an injustice:

    Document with all injustices with JYJ (2011 and before)
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    This is crazy... Why would you ruin their lives and careers just because they decided to leave your company?!
     
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    Playing devil's advocate here, but I suppose some things weren't dealt by SM's hands directly - like some broadcasting companies fearing that they would lose connections with SM if they broadcasted anything for JYJ, not necessarily having been issued official requests or anything. (I'm probably wrong, I mean 26 companies makes a remarkable army) But I was so happy when FTC filed the sanction against KFPCAI and it was finally publicized just how fervently SM had been trying to stop JYJ. And it makes me that much more proud of how far the trio has come with so much against them.

    And just to think, if none of these were prevented, how much wealthier would they be? o_O
     
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    If they have this kind of power, why go for JYJ only? Why not do the same thing for groups that become competition for them? Surprises me that a company so successful would do this much out of a grudge alone, there would have to be some actual benefit for going solely for JYJ and not other artists.
     
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    erm if u didn't know, JYJ was a part of SM's group, "DBSK" before. they were all five members together. now JYJ decided to go off on their own away from SM because they were not happy with their income or something along those lines. SM being the grudgey company they are, tried everything to prevent them from being successful. SO this is y they targeted JYJ a lot. u can read more about it online ^^
     
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    2016: No.X not being appreciated enough...
     
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    Companies can be petty like that though. I remember Kim Jong Kook also had some problems after he left company, he was preparing his solo comeback and suddenly person who had promised write his songs declined and he found out that his former company was behind that. He told this on Strong Heart so JYJ aren't likely only one's that have faced company behaving like angry-ex, but they have probably had it worst with SM being as influential as it is.

    I don't think companies can go against other companies artist in similar way. I think there is some kind of sentiment that some companies and broadcasting stations share.. they think idols who sued their companies and "betrayed" them should be punished. But that's simply feeling that I have got.
     
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    So, there aren't any consequences for going against the law?
     
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    Erm, yes, I know.
    That's my point, though. ex-TVXQ members or not, it's not like JYJ is SM groups' only competition. So why go for them alone? If they have that kind of power, they could be using it on loads of other groups as well.
     
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    I don't think that SM is the only one behind this (you can see in these unfair treatment that some are by AVEX, KBS, SBS, MBC, KFPCAI (many people from differents agency are in), etc...
    But, we can't deny that SM was the start and continue to play a role here (whether direct or indirect).


    It's complicate because there should be have consequence with justice since FTC filed a sanction against KFPCAI and SM. Each time they interfere, they should paid JYJ BUT, it's difficult to 'prove' that SM or KFPCAI are behind this.
    And, with the 'JYJ law', stations 'can't' rejet artists without good reason but they can always said that they didn't want JYJ (or others) because they aren't popular or said that JYJ reject their offer to appear, etc...
    This law have a big 'flaw'. So for now, JYJ can't do nothing. I mean Junsu have a comeback to come but no activities yet except those he do each time lately or promotion with internet.


    @findtheakarun I think that JYJ was target because SM wanted to do an example of them. And because TVXQ (Yunho and Changmin) was still here and since SM have to promote them, it was better if fans 'only' support them. (I NEVER thought that Yunho and Changmin was the reason for the ban. Weigh my words). I only said that SM did it to have a good PR.
    But, many people leave SM since...
    I thought that SM did it in past and didn't want destroy their image more so they try to not interfer so much with others artists but... most of people who leave SM was chinese and SM don't have enough powe to block them in China. It's leave Jessica. For now, we don't know if they interfere or will interfere.
    Btw, when I thought that SM wasn't interfere anymore and it was only because TV stations and others were still afraid that SM remove their artists, they said that they didn't want be mentionned in same sentence of JYJ.
    It was really petty... So... I don't know...
    It's like if they fear JYJ.
    Maybe with a good reason? Junsu won the popularity price in january even after 6 years without promotion against Exo and SHINee. So maybe that they can't 'release' JYJ because they are still popular, they didn't 'apologize' and 'thanks' SM for all. Let's be real, no others SM acts was as popular as JYJ was and is.
    But yet, maybe that SM do so much 'shits' in past that they reached a point where they don't want that JYJ go in TV and said all they did them. Because I think that the day when they will be in front of cams, people will be curious to know WHY they didn't be in TV before and which unfair treatments they lived. And when it'll be the time to said it, no way that SM don't be bash or take a blow from public.
    For a agency, the image is ALL.
     
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    some of you guys are not realizing that this isn't only about grudge...

    it's also about making an example out of JYJ not only for ALL of their (remaining fellow) SM label mates to watch & see but also for the whole industry to show their power.


    it happens in other countries and in other industries as well ... so (to me) it's expected.
     
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    cuz they don't want people who left them to do well on their own. it's juust a grudge thing. if they did it on other groups, i'm pretty sure people would bash them for it
     
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    @waitingdb5k

    some Jessica fans/friends of mine told me that some articles and/or interviews are fake and some of them are being deleted both in Korea and China... tbh i don't really know what to believe anymore.


    Music makes us happy yet the dirty business of show business is always sad to see.

    :(
     
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    actually,i'm really worried to JYJ. they can't be appear on TV show like variety show,music show etc. but i'm hopefully after jaejoong and yoochun came out to the army they(JYJ) appear on TV shows. i really hate SM ent since TVXQ were broke up and music style of TVXQ it's so boring. that's my opinion why i don't like SM ent....
    thanks you
     
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    and for SM ent you have a lot of artist, money and your artists is so famous in the world. but why are you still blocked up JYJ? what are you still can't moving on from them......
     
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    That is just sad and unfair! My bias is actually Jaejoong! I always feel bad for him, he's such a sweetheart, but SM is seriously meticulous. I hate it really.
     
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    personally...they saw it coming. what they have now is more than JYJ expected. they were ready to basically never be able to make music and having to take secondary career paths. as unfair as all this is, I think it was also beneficial for them. they are better musicians than when they were in SM...and most importantly, they are free and can do whatever they want, when they want. Plus they get to keep most of the money they make. the way I see it, they still got the better end of the deal.

    SM can continue to be a bitter girlfriend and JYJ will continue to rock :3

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    I just had to watch that after reading this. this makes me sad now.

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    looks like sm thinks jyj is a threat to them
     
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    I remembered the Jeju concert incident and how I felt so angry at the shameless and blatant discrimination and bullying. It's the same thing with the Asian Games thing as well.

    And then there's the incident of Junsu performing in semi-darkness. That was just so...sad. Like how insulting it is for an artist of Junsu's credibility to be treated in that manner.

    But, I guess the best part of this all is that the boys turned out to be one of Korea's best. True artist in every way because they had to work without backups and resources that is made abundant to others. They got creative in their marketing and promotion tactics AND they also managed to diversify their already incredible talents.

    Guess who's the ultimate victor, SM?
     

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