New Rule: No Promotion of other forums on AKP due to Increased Drama

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  1. Yseki

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    I agree, but I mean they have to follow the laws of the jurisdiction they are in (USA). The goal of any moderation team should be to have an environment that promotes openness and free discussion but has enough rules to prevent anarchy. Having some laws and rules creates a more free society than one with too many or one with none at all.
     
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    lol. I agree with your argument, but not your premises.
     
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    If you're so against shading why do you keep leaving the posts about kps having a "virus" and deleting any posts that defend it? That doesn't paint a pretty picture for what you claim.
     
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    If you’re referring to the latest discussion regarding mentioned users, both got the last comment to clarify their stand; one believing it has a virus and the other classifying it as misinformation
    The discussion that got deleted by one of the moderators wasn’t targeted based on what was said; but on who began the discussion with the other
    Both got comments deleted; whether on one or the other part
     
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    Posts like these are still here throughout this thread. Just makes it seem like you guys want that kind of information to stay.
     
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    If you read through the thread, there has been different kind of information mentioned in comments
    The one you mentioned and then you also have following comment;
    If we wanted to portray anything in one given light, only certain comments would stay on this thread
    However what users have written has been a response to the rule; whether good or bad has stayed; the only thing that got deleted was the ongoing discussion where it resulted in insults being thrown around and yet both got a last comment to clarify their stand.
     
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    The only thing I'm talking about are the posts claiming that kps is "infected" and should be "avoided" and so on. Those are the only ones I'm talking about and caring about and everything else being brought up is irrelevant.

    Speaking of irrelevant: those posts are very irrelevant to the topic of this thread. They're just randomly throwing out that kps is infected. And it's not, by the way. The site has been scanned thoroughly.
     
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    If you're going to make a rule, you should stick to it instead of randomly deciding what gets to stay and what doesn't. Rules shouldn't mean you get to turn the other way or pick and choose what gets to stay when it all clearly breaks it.
     
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    THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^
     
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    Hey @Super_Junior_15x

    Can just all posts mentioning KPS and going off topic be deleted? There’s no need for arguments and discussions to break out over this as people who have issues over the website have the possibility and choice to directly address it to us (The Staff) through PMs on here or on the website. So the posts that decided to criticise the site are just here to instigate arguments instead of being helpful or contributive to the matter at hand
     
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    I don’t belong to the moderation team here on akp but I do suggest something which is that if KPS staff want to have a dialogue with AKP mod team then they should have some sort of PM to discuss the ongoing back and forth shade and mentions. I know there are threads on KPS directly addressing and shading AKP, where even the staff themselves have participated, and even posts shading me directly, yet they remain. I think it’s fair that both side make a better effort in telling their forum users to calm down instead of this being a one sided thing.
     
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    Addressing this matter, it should be no more than two people from both sides taking part in these discussions as the teams are both busy dealing with things on both forums. But that’s just my opinion.

    If you’ve seen more things that you believe are shade or breaking rules, then you’re free to DM me and I will handle it appropriately as I have the last time that you reported something. But personally, I haven’t seen anything that has broken rules so I am not sure what you are referencing currently.

    I agree that there needs to be more communication on both forums in terms of mentioning other forums as well as monitoring the behaviour on said forums.

    Thank you for the suggestion :^)
     
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    If the rule is to avoid drama, it's pointless to allow anti-promotion.
     
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    Sadly the post I reported only got mildly edited instead of deleted, which I personally don’t find appropriate considering the shade still remains.

    I personally don’t check KPS so I can’t tell you what’s shade and bash, but I get notified when certain posts or threads are made and I get baffled that it’s allowed to stay. And even staff comment or react to it without removing it. This is not shade or pointing fingers, this is a personal experience and a constructive criticism at how I believe the staff handle certain issues over there. I don’t want to go into details because I’m sure I’ll poke something I’m not supposed to, but if the moderators from both side decide to have a closed dialogue then I can share some of my points with the moderators and they can relay the message to you.

    Perhaps KPS staff can nominate two staff members to DM the mods here and you guys can come up with an agreement instead of everyone swarming into this thread with pretty much the same message despite the issue have already being answered previously. That comes off as rather accusatory and it’s very repitivite to answer. If staff from both sides can’t keep feuds between themselves to happen and discuss something in proper manners then it really can’t be expected from the users either.
     
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    It was edited to remove the parts that you specifically pointed out that you were upset with (As well other parts that violated forum rules). I even discussed with the user that those things should not be posted. If you wish to discuss this further, DM me on discord, there’s no reason to discuss a KPS subject on this thread.

    There doesn’t need to be a relayed message like that if you can directly address these issues to me or other staff which decreases chances of miscommunication. Again, I appreciate the criticism and we’ll take it into consideration, so thank you. If you’re being notified by a person specifically, could you tell them to also report these posts so that we can deal with them directly? That would help with clearing out the forum from posts that break the rules.

    I can push this idea further to the staff for it to be discussed. I’ve only come into here to ask for posts that were going off topic to be deleted as they weren’t contributive. (From both sides.)
     
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    From past experience I would rather someone else speak on my behalf instead of me directly approaching, thank you for the suggestion however.

    Of course this is between moderators and I don’t find this particular issue necessarily interesting to discuss, I just believed it was a bit wrong to repetitively bring up an issue, especially in accusatory manners, despite the concern have being answered by a moderator.

    I hope you will come up with a mutual agreement, best of luck!
     
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    Since some of the comments made while I was away are hinting at/pointing out similar points; I’ll try to answer it here

    I think you missed my point
    I understand your problem with the comments that portray the other forum in a bad light, but I specifically said and in a response to that; both good and bad information stayed unless it became a discussion with insults from the given sides. What you deemed relevant was the comments that didn’t speak well of the forum, and as a comparison I brought up one that praised it and told you, if we wanted to do what you’re hinting we are, then it wouldn’t stay ^^

    Fair enough you dismiss the given information of malware, however I am not the judge of that; I don’t know what you or others experienced on the other forum
    The mentioned was given as a reason as for why the newly added rule was a good idea, just like the comment I mentioned was giving the perspective of the rule being added on a false basis.
    In which I believe you have misunderstood our intentions ^^’
     
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    As soon as we delete all mentions of the given forum off this thread, we will be denying the forum feedback or accused of not being able to discuss the given rule/stand by it

    How users handle their problems with another forum is not for me to decide; we mainly made this rule due to the threads we saw ending up with a mess after another on AKP
    It is a two way road; praise of the forum got to stay as well as criticism
    I have no problem with the comments correcting it as misinformation; which already has been stated by at least two users; however the cleanup was done as for the direction the discussion between Kirby and Yseki were taking ^^
     
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    As for the suggestion made by @Manoko of the two forums talking it through - my PMs are open and my discord is generally known if we should get to the point of arranging a dialogue between the two forums
    However I would appreciate if this thread didn’t become the place for the dialogue ^^
     
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