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Discussion in 'K-POP' started by Teshubs_Irene, Jun 23, 2018.
their no-charms outside of music
their personalities and variety level aren't really good
i love their music tho they always release bops but they're the last in my bias list bc of their lack of charms
Songs. I bet they could have way better songs.
I think Red Velvet is pretty popular as they are right now.
Also, they do seem to be building up their popularity overtime rather than shooting off to popularity overnight.
The latter kind of popularity is hard to manage and can dissolve quickly too.
Their charisma on-stage is practically non-existent tbh (minus Wendy and Seulgi). It makes watching their performances kinda boring and unenjoyable.
Why are you making it so obvious that you are pressed with BP's comeback?
You can't blame SM, they get the best song among all the SM groups.
SM, from the start no real push for them. Imo
- Their first song, Happiness, was just okay.
- Their next song, Be Natural, was a remake that flopped.
- They picked up a little more steam when ICC came out, but Yeri was an unimpressive addition. I don't mean to sound like a hater because I know she's young and she seems nice, but her vocal skills are lacking, and her personality is meh.
- In fact, outside of Joy and Wendy, they're not very charismatic as a group or individually.
- I think, overall, it's their inconsistency that's the problem. They have times when they do great, and times when they're easily overshadowed because they fail to stand out. I say all this as a hardcore RV fan, btw.
RV has good songs and they are popular, but they're not the most popular one. I don't know why lots of people would completely blame the company if the group isn't that popular compared to other groups. Companies gives you the concept, resources and songs, it's the idols job to bring in the audience. I like RV's concepts and title tracks, but I don't find them charming and they lack chemistry and stage presence compared to other top groups.
Their songs are not the kind of stuff Korea loves, with some exceptions ofc
But that's a good thing, because we love them
Just imagine the level of nuguflops they'd be outside of big3
I'm not making a comparison here coz I love both groups, but charima off stage and a fun personality that fans connect to are very important to gain popularity. RV is probably the most talented gg, musically. However, outside of that, they can be a bit boring. Twice on the other hand, aren't the best at singing or dancing but they leave an impression on people with their charms and make them want to support the group.
Korea also isn't too fond of RV's velvet-side tracks, although international fans love them. They go back and forth between fun songs that Korea likes and then the Velvet side which gets a lukewarm reception.
SM, if you notice SM didn't really focus much on them..More on NCT nowadays. Their appearance on some variety shows are quite boring as well, Irene is gorgeous and nice but she is just too quiet..
I clicked the wrong one on the poll :'
I think they're already popular enough. Everybody knows them, most people like their music and the members are popular even on an individual level, so I don't see why they should be more than that. It's already great.
The only one i blame is the people who sleep on them.
They have talent, charisma, good songs.
I see many people who blame SM, but SM give them the best songs of girls group. They give them an unique concept who is different from all the girl's band have do. They are well promote during in their Comeback in korea.
The only think,, they lack like all the group of the 3rd generation, is that they like of entertainement on the variety show. Like all the group of 3rd generation they don't seem natural and it looks awkward.
But i think they should push Yeri in this area, she's a shamless maknae, who is quick in her answer and very funny in their reality show.
Wendy should be a panelist on a variety show like masked king and do more collaboration.
While Irene and Joy should become the next Cf queen.
And seulgi should do some drama because i remember on Operation idol, they all compliments her acting skills and she should do some cover magazines, because she's the most charismatic girl of this generation.
Her gaze remember me the eyes of CL
Sm is responsible for their songs & concept, so I blame SM.
I think SM has given them good songs and good choreo, they released like 3 albums last year and had plenty of exposure.
Maybe it's personabity or something
I agree with above.
Perhaps is the fact that they don't 'stand out' against other groups? Or seem to not have had a 'hit' single
They are as successful as they could it be.
tbh they are kinda boring in terms of personality and charisma. SMs brand is really hard carrying them as a group.