Cube Shouldn't Have Caved

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  1. chickseli

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    I must state upfront that I'm an international KPop fan, but I'm not a fan of HyunA or Pentagon. Sometimes I struggle with some of the issues idols must face, such as "scandals" and normally I try to not to look at the situations through a "western lense" because you know, cultures. But I'm really struggling with the HyunA and E'Dawn dating scandal. It's a mess.

    One BIG issue I've always struggled with is how much control and influence fans have over idols personal lives. As an adult human being I can't even comprehend why it's allowed and even in some cases (BGs) encouraged.

    I don't recall any GGs doing, but I really wish BGs would stop calling the fans their girlfriends. You're encouraging your hostage situation. Yes. To me they're hostages.

    And I need fans to realize that they're not dating these people and more than likely they never will. The relationship fans have with idols is essentially a business relationship. No more no less. If fans want to vow their undying love and pledge to stay with them forever, that's on them, but don't act like idols owe you something.

    For some odd reason I thought Cube was going to take a stand come what may. Nope, they crumbled like a spineless bitch. Nothing is going to change until one of these companies do it. So what if they lose some fans. They'll make new ones.

    I know this my cultural naivete talking, but I'm frustrated with the whole thing.


    Note: I typed this from my phone. There will be grammar and spelling errors. I'm hoping I'm understood.
     
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    Sadly change does not seem to happen.
     
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    Still blows my mind that some fans expect 20 something year old men/women to essentially be asexual.

    I get why fans would not want their prettyboys/girls to date, but for real it's weird how commonplace this ideology seems to be.
     
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    It's unfortunate that Cube caved, but they have to appease their Korean fans. They bring in the cash.
    It'll take a lot to change the mentality about idols dating.

    What can ya do.
    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Kpop thrives on the fans' delusion that they have a shot with their favorite idol and said idol being in a relationship destroys that illusion, company makes less profit.
     
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    If anything, I think it's going to get worse. There's an app being made/already made where you can go on dates with Irene from Red Velvet.
     
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    I can see why they pulled them out of the fan meet. That can be a huge safety issue with how the rabid psycho fans have been issue threats.
     
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    cube needs pentagon. after their cash cow beast left, they were finally begining to generate revenue again so ofcourse they will cave in. only a stupid company wont cave in. cube had a loss last year, they cant afford another red because of shareholders and investors. edawn is replaceable.
     
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    No member is ever replaceable. Edawn and Pentagon may have to suffer for a little longer but eventually fans will have to accept that he’s dating and the scandal will blow over. Maybe not completely but enough that they’ll still be successful
     
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    In hindsight, it's clear this whole situation was handled badly from the jump. Right from when the rumours came, and Cube made the statement, and then Hyuna and E'Dawn bypassed that etc.

    Aside: It's not just Kpop boy bands that thrive on the boyfriend fantasy. 1D thrived on a similar fantasy (that they were every fan's ideal boyfriends but also the more powerful one: that they were all loyal to each other and kind of in love with each other). It was fans who were high-key obsessed and taken in by that fantasy that basically drove the band to insane levels of success. And when the "fantasy" started to crack, first when some of them started dating, then Zayn left and the whole mess around that, etc. that you could see the backlash. When Louis had a kid, it literally broke the minds of all those larries lmfao. The backlash may look slightly different (i.e. with 1D, when Louis dated Eleanor the first time, larries literally phoned her university and tried to get her expelled, they used to send delusional ship porn to his family including underage siblings) but this ~fantasy element is, for good or ill, a key element in pop generally and specifically for boy bands (and even solo singers like Bieber etc.). Girl groups/women soloists also get it to a degree.
     
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    An artist would expect fans to have fantasies that part if the job, my issue is the level of delusion and control these people have. That's what bothers me the most and that's what needs to be addressed. We all know idols/performers need their fans to thrive and succeed, but at what cost? There has to be a line.
     
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    Truthfully, I except no more comebacks for Triple H. Their done for sure. One thing that I wish everyone understood is that western fans are used to having their favs. date. Korean fans are not. In fact all western fans are outsiders looking in. There is a reason why their called idols and not artists. Artists not only have creative control but general a control over their image. They do not. So I'm not surprised that Cube crumbled specially when they released contradicting misinformation to make things worse.
     
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    I can't speak for all (since I know there are definitely some butthurt fangirls out there), but I know most of the K-fandom's frustrations come from the fact that E'dawn and Hyuna didn't consider the effect this type of thing would have on Pentagon. Now the group looks unprofessional for dating within the first 2 years of their career, and it's worse because E'dawn dated someone who's practically considered a coworker.

    Although they were honest and that's admirable, they were also very selfish - you can't tell me they wouldn't expect shit to hit the fan. They should know what the fanbase is like out there, better than we do.

    But you've got the whole boyfriend image thing all wrong. Pentagon has never been the type to call their fans their girlfriends, at most they say they love their fans, but that's more an expression of gratitude for their support. E'dawn in particular rarely used the word love and his wording always seemed like he was 'friendzoning' the fanbase anyway.
     
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    They did apparently say that they asked Pentagon if they could.
    I honestly feel like blame falls on everyone for not stopping anything
     
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    I'm more mad that Cube is completely shutting E'dawn away right now, even going as far as to say he won't attend a fanmeet.
    It feels wrong and they have an opportunity to see how their fans may react in a more realistic situation while also explaining to him that 'dont be disheartened if they are rude' or showing the reality of what happens with these scandals, it could be a good learning curve. Have him sit on the end of the fan meets so he can be skipped, tell people that they can meet him away from the rest of the group even so those stans that do want to see him get the chance.

    Yes, profit is in question here and idk if people were cancelling their tickets (doesn't seem to have been the case as others have said), so taking a risk isn't that much of an issue assuming you keep your employee safe.
     
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    They didn't 'ask' the other Pentagon members, E'dawn said he told them that he would go public with the relationship.

    Yes they should've stopped it, but they'd be messed up friends/members for saying "no keep hiding your relationship". And who's to say they would've listened to them to stop? E'dawn and Hyuna were the ones who did the interview, they ultimately decide what to do no matter what anyone else says. They even went against the entire company, I wouldn't put it past them to ignore what the other members said.
     
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    I'm still unclear as to what Pentagon's "rookie" status has to do with anything.
     
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