1°) Both are insecure and always shove to everyone's throat the achievements of their groups for no reason whenever other groups succeed. 2°) Both were brainwashed by their own companies to believe they are different from all the others and are innocent. 3°) Both are fanatics of porn torture, meaning they love to see their faves suffering and being overworked to death and just to say "they are doing it for us" and shade other groups for not working as hard. 4°) (Mostly armys) Accuse and cancel other idols for having problematic attitudes that their faves themselves also had. Armyonces fighting!!!