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'Abnormal Summit' angers Korean and Chinese netizens after playing controversial Japanese anthem 'Kimigayo' on air

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On the October 27 broadcast of JTBC's 'Abnormal Summit', Japanese representative and CROSS GENE member Takuya was absent due to a conflicting schedule. Japanese actor Hitomitsu Takada took his place; however, viewers were alarmed when during the actor's introduction, the background music began to play the controversial Japanese national anthem "Kimigayo".


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"Kimigayo" was originally the anthem of the Empire of Japan and it has a negative stigma among Korean and Chinese people. During World War II, Japan had forced its colonized countries to sing the anthem, including Korea and China. The anthem was replaced at the conclusion of World War II in 1945, however, it was brought back as the official national anthem later on in 1999.


This marks 'Abnormal Summit's second "Kimigayo" controversy, as they played the tune back in July during the first episode when introducing regular member Takuya. 


Despite 'Abnormal Summit's apology for their mistake, the program's webpage has been flooded with complaints, with some netizens commenting, "How could this kind of song be on broadcast," "My ears suspected something," and, "This isn't a problem that can end with just an apology." Sponsorship and advertisement deals made with the program have also been suspended due to this controversy. 


The controversy has even reached outside countries. When Japanese media outlet Sankei Sports reported the incident, Japanese netizens seemed to respond that the Korean netizens were overreacting, saying, "Thank you for letting people know about Japan's 'Kimigayo'," "Isn't this obviously a scene where the 'Kimigayo' should be played?", and, "A Japanese person came out so they should think that this is natural."


When Chinese media Sina reported the news, however, Chinese netizens were just as angry as Korean netizens, saying, "Even if a Japanese person appeared, 'Kimigayo' symbolizes the period during which Korean and Chinese people were massacred," "Is a song that came out during a period when Chinese and Korean people were harassed supposed to be good? We have to abolish that song again," and, "Those who forget about history have no future. We have to remember this through this 'Kimigayo' controversy."




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imatroll (Banned) Thursday, November 6, 2014

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growlin Saturday, November 15, 2014

Stop liking Kpop and hate Korea. It's as simple as that. I don't recommend you waste your time writing shit about Koreans because they don't lose sleep over it. Wendy was actually raised in Canada. It just shows that we can make mistakes too. It just amazes me how far the media can go into brain washing people. If you literally think the whole population of Korea acts like what allkpop tells you; you are a dumbass and read too much netizenbuzz.

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KatM Wednesday, November 26, 2014

@imatroll your name tho

gholly4 Friday, October 31, 2014

I understand why they're mad, I just don't understand why they continue to send complaints when the program apologized. Do they want the show to be cancelled as punishment or something?

pjk Friday, October 31, 2014

;japan's government : "im sorry but im do not a wrong."


It is believed that the Japanese army forced as many as two-hundred-thousand women to work as prostitutes for its soldiers in battle areas.

but, japan's government says that military sexual slavery ; is voluntary for money in spite of testament and they reexamine Kono Statement of 1993 larely

also, The Japanese Prime Minister's visits to the Yasukuni shrine angered Koreans

the current incident not limit in Kimigayo, Many Koreans thought that ; japan's government justify a war of aggression

but koreans do not to take part in a demonstration "kill Japanese! assault and rape Japanese!" contrasted with japanese.

I saw their hate speech that japanese say "kill korean! assault and rape korean!" at Okubo

;

alexdhamp Saturday, November 1, 2014

Do you so enjoy spreading lies and misinformation?

EGrace Thursday, November 13, 2014

"Koreans do not take part in a demonstration 'kill Japanese! assault and rape Japanese!'" There's pictures that prove that there is anti-Japanese sentiment in Korea. If you Google "Anti-Japanese Korea"plenty of pictures will pop up. You can't just show one side of the story. I'm not saying that it's ok for Japanese people to have anti-Korean sentiment, but you're making it seem like Korea hasn't participated in expressing hatred as well.

sassyme Thursday, October 30, 2014

The event name is "abnormal" and they expect that the event would be normal and broadcast just a thing that consider normal? Duh

_ageha Sunday, November 2, 2014

LOL, this is so right

LilyLYZ Tuesday, November 4, 2014

Just to clarify, the name abnormal is only one of the translations. The official translation is Non-Summit. Meaning an unofficial summit being held.

teefany Thursday, October 30, 2014

For the people who don't understand why koreans are so mad over this this, think of it in this way: A classmate or fellow employee had once abused you. Verbally, physically, sexually, and psychologically. They did everything wrong to you and once you finally stand up for yourself, they just leave you alone without any remorse or guilt. And then a few years later, you've moved on from the past but someone brings up something that reminds you of that abuser that tramautized you whether it be a song or location or event that wasn't particularly created for the abuser but is still linked that way in your memory. Wouldn't you be angry? It's the exact same thing. ;

alexdhamp Thursday, October 30, 2014

You're analogy is ALL wrong. First, there's been plenty of remorse and guilt. Secondly, this would be more like harassing the children of your abuser. "The Sins of the Father" kind of thing.

alexdhamp Thursday, October 30, 2014

Or as I put elsewhere: How would you feel if you apologized for a wrong you did, then were spat in the face, then accused of never apologizing? You tried helping them with funds as a form of restitution; they take what you give them, then claim you never did anything. Then, they keep doing this over the years, constantly. Antagonizing you over the years in this manner because of how you sinned against them. Fine, you deserve it. Now, lets imagine you had a child, completely unrelated to what you did to them, yet they and their children continue to treat your children in this manner...demanding apologizes from them for something you did; over and over again, yet, never satisfied with how they try to appease them. Yeah, it causes some resentment after awhile from the other side...especially from the "children"(new generation) that had nothing to do with it.

mashimaroluff0 Friday, October 31, 2014

@alexdhamp let's look it another way.. you apologized but u never mean it. You secretly tell your children that u actually didnt do anything wrong. Your children don't understand why people are mad at you because your children believed u diddnt do anything wrong (since u told them). Your children then proceeds to say everyone is a liar and out to get you and your family. Your children think that others are bullies.

alexdhamp Saturday, November 1, 2014

@mashimaroluff0 You're analogy is still off...full of misinformation. What part of Japan sincerely apologized for their transgressions don't you get? What part of MEXT vetoing the usage of the textbooks trying to white wash their history? Or why do most young Japanese know what their country did in the past during WWII? Some idiotic minorities of Japan do not speak for the whole of Japan, what part of that don't you get? Stop believing everything you hear and actually look up the facts. It's called "fact-checking", do it.

teefany Saturday, November 1, 2014

@alexdhamp just from your grammar I can tell how smart you are. Before you tell others to check their facts, why don't you? And maybe some grammar along with that?

mashimaroluff0 Saturday, November 1, 2014

@alexdhamp Japanese people think comfort women and Rape of Nanking are hoax. They know under WWII Japan soldiers were sent out to fight in wars for the better of Japan, finding new resources, which China is abundant, to fuel their expanding economy. Imperalism was common then, they know it's wrong, but other western countries also did it so they don't think it's that much to get mad over. One parliament member briefly mentioned that Japan might be responsible for the comfort women issues and the internet were ablaze with anger, saying he sell out Japan. Most Japanese think comfort women were sold off by their own parents so they think Japanese soldiers were not responsible. I saw/ heard enough to make my own judgment. Why don't u do the same?

midnighteer Sunday, November 2, 2014

@mashimaroluff0 @teefany Lol if Korea sincerely hated Japanese to the extent of 3 seconds worth of national anthem = huge sin, Koreans wouldn't even touch manga/anime/jpop. Yet they do, while criticizing 3s worth of Japan's national anthem, how very hypocritical. Anyway, this is typical behavior when one feels superior. Many Koreans don't actually feel that strongly about this, but because they feel like the have a right to hate on Japan, they simply do so. By supporting/condoning this, you're just encouraging them to continue hating. In the end it'll lead to a revenge-hate cycle until everyone dies. Yay. -_- I think it's time to forgive.

LilyLYZ Wednesday, November 5, 2014

@alexdhamp Just saying, Japan has NEVER taken legal responsibility for ANY war crimes, including the massacres, comfort women.

mashimaroluff0 Wednesday, November 5, 2014

@midnighteer you make me face palm. So u mean that if Korean hate Japanese so much they should hate everything about Japan? Then that would be blind hate then wouldn't it? What part of history-loaded meaning of this song doesn't get to you? Shouldn't it be a good thing Korean don't hate everything about Japan? And they don't blindly attack Japanese people when they see one? They hate this song because their ancestors were whipped, got their tongue cut out, beheaded, killed for refusing to sing this song. That is why they are mad this song was air in Korea. They hated the music pd who were ignorant of history and the hurt this song brought to the family members of those who were killed for not singing this song. Manga/anime from Japan didnt kill Korean people, so why would they hate that as well? I don't understand your logic that to forgive Japan, everything need to be forgiven/okay with. Even if Korea decides one day that they will let all the crimes go, doesn't mean kimigayo won't enrage them. For example, if an abused person got kidnapped and tortured by the kidnapper, s/he might decide to forgive the kidnapper, but that doesn't mean s/he will want to put in the place that s/he was abused.

midnighteer Thursday, November 6, 2014

@mashimaroluff0 ......? I never implied that. My point was that Koreans are going too far for 3 seconds (nearly blind hate). If even 3 seconds (which is so easily ignored) is this heavily criticized, wouldn't any Japanese related item (manga, etc were out during 1940s already and Kimigayo never killed people either) from the past anger them? All I really meant is that Korea should tone down on their hate. But yeah, forget it, stop necro-ing posts.

growlin Thursday, October 30, 2014

There are many patriots from both countries that are bitching about everything they do. It's just you idiots are more into Kpop and Kdramas that you hear more of it from the Korean side but Japan is just as guilty for being whiny assholes. I can half understand why these Koreans might do this but Korea really hasn't done anything to Japan. I have no idea why Japan hates Korea so much? Help me in on why.

alexdhamp Thursday, October 30, 2014

Read the history. How would you feel if you apologized for a wrong you did, then were spat in the face, then accused of never apologizing? You tried helping them with funds as a form of restitution; they take what you give them, then claim you never did anything. Then, they keep doing this over the years, constantly. Antagonizing you over the years in this manner because of how you sinned against them. Now, lets imagine you had a child, completely unrelated to what you did to them, yet they and their children continue to treat your children in this manner...demanding apologizes from them for something you did; over and over again, yet, never satisfied with how they try to appease them. Yeah, it causes some resentment after awhile from the other side...especially from the "children"(new generation) that had nothing to do with it. If you look back farther in history, you find Korea wasn't completely innocent, either. WWII or the Japanese-Sino Wars didn't occur in a vacuum of history as many seem to think.

sl_user Friday, October 31, 2014

First of all, Korea hates Japan more than Japan hates Korea. We can't blame Koreans, since Japan DID something wrong. But today, nobody in Japan even care about other countries. Japan has been living isolated after WWII. K-Pop/K-Dramas are one of the prove that Japan doesn't hate Korea, Koreans are free to enter the Japanese market where Japanese(products, etc) are being banned in Korea until 2008 (if I'm not mistaken). Up until today, J-Pop artists are being affected with Korea's government, many of j-pop's concerts has been banned in Korea leaving korean fans disappointed. You can't say Korea has done nothing with Japan when Japanese people are being called monkeys, other hurtful words, and have no much opportunity in Korea, while Koreans in Japan (aka Zainichi) are living safe, unharmed, and sometimes even successful. Japan also had given alot of help to Korea after WWII where Korean government doesn't let Koreans to know that, while Koreans haven't even lend a hand as big as China and USA when Japan tsunami incident happened. That's some of the proof that Korea hates Japan more than you could ever imagine.

victoria_park Friday, October 31, 2014

@sl_user Do you have evidence that j-pop groups aren't allowed in Korea???? Also, some japanese still dislikes koreans........

growlin Friday, October 31, 2014

@sl_user Everyone makes it sound like I'm directing my state of the hatred towards Japan, to the majority of Korea (too much netizenbuzz much?) Of course historical issues, aside; there are many people who love the two respective countries that live in Japan and Korea. It's usually the people who lived through these horrors that generate the hate. Maybe care to research who the victims of the actual conflicts were, not use the present as a excuse. Imagine your grandparents going through rape, torture, and murder. I won't accuse the children but remind them what your country has done.

sl_user Friday, October 31, 2014

@victoria_park and who says's J-Pop are not allowed in Korea? What I said is, J-Pop concerts has been cancelled in Korea b'coz of the issues. You can look up on some of them like Kyary Pamyu Pamyu's concert last year got cancelled without further reasons! There's google to help you search.

sl_user Friday, October 31, 2014

@growlin "It's usually the people who lived through these horrors that generate the hate", actually you've got it wrong. Most of people who "fights for justice" are the younger generation. It's been shown even through the internet (who uses internet anyways? do you expect people on their 70s use internet and bash allover?) even if you watch variety shows there are so many people who hates Japan than people who loves. As I said, I can't blame them but I hate the fact that they blame even those younger Japanese generation, bashes them, and spits bad words on them when they know nothing about the old days. And as I already mentioned, compare to USA and China (who hates Japan so much), Korea didn't lend a big hand as big as USA and China (WHO HATES THEM). There you can see in general, China, even if they hate them, they'll still help. Korea, if they hate them, that means most of them will make fun of Japanese.

victoria_park Friday, October 31, 2014

@sl_user Well, you said j-pop was banned....... you never said caneled.....

victoria_park Friday, October 31, 2014

@sl_user Also, the concert was supposedly canceled due to her holding the Japanese flag. I admit some Koreans are too crazy and overeating, they should learn to forgive, but your comments make it seem like only Korea is doing most of the hating.

midnighteer Sunday, November 2, 2014

Well, if demanding for reparations/apologies 70 years after the war, two-three generations down, from a generation that has done absolutely no wrong to Korea (except for the minority of extremists) isn't something that Korea has done wrong, idk what's wrong and right anymore.

Minjooo Monday, November 3, 2014

@sl_user Yes, you told J-Pop is [[[[[banned]]]] in Korea. It was you who exactly wrote it if it was not your alter-ego. And now you changed your words to "it has been canceled". What you told is just bullshits that is not even correct. 日 그룹 아라시 첫 내한공연 입장권 '불티' (News article: Japanese J-POP group Arashi's concert tickets are all sold out in 1 hour!), 어! 뉴스가 없어도 '아라시' 검색어 1위 Arashi is the most-searched on portal sites.) J-pop is not allowed in Korea? Are you asleep while you're typing? There are a lot, so freaking many J-pop fans in Korea that you can't possibly imagine. I'm just wondering, are you living in Korea by any chance? Because you're saying Japanese get no chance and there are many japanese who's actively shown in Korean TV programs and Japanese actors in Korea. Namekawa Yasuo(Gangnam), Terada Takuya, Fujii Mina, Ryohei, Feki Yuko(Yumin), Fujita Sayuri, Takeda Hiromitsu... Need I say more??? There are very small population of people who hates Japanese, but you never see them in your real life. Think about the possibility you meet a racist or a criminal in your neighborhood. If you say 'Japanese monkeys should die' or something like that in Korea, you'll be treated as a crazy racist or a extreme conservationist y ^^. It seems like you don't really have any knowledge about Korea but you just find some misinformation on Google and believe it as it is.

sl_user Monday, November 3, 2014

@Minjooo Arashi's concert was very long time ago and that was when the issues haven't sprouted this big just yet. The issue got even bigger b'coz of the Takeshima-Dokso disputed island issues. Later this issue, Koreans brought up the past and that's when J-Pop had hard time entering Korea. You can try reading my comment again saying "Japanese(products, etc) are being banned in Korea until 2008", I was talking about products, such as Gameboy who was undernamed Comeboy through samsung b'coz Nintendo was banned. J-Pop was ANOTHER SENTENCE. I know alot of Japanese artist have tried to enter Korean market these days but they only gained interest b'coz they said they love korean culture which Koreans find interesting b'coz most of the always thinks that Japanese hates Japan w/c is a very rare case. While Koreans can enter whenever they want to in Japan's market. I hope you get my statement now.

sl_user Monday, November 3, 2014

@Minjooo typo error on my first sentence "they only gained interest b'coz they said they love korean culture which Koreans find interesting b'coz most of them always thinks that Japanese hates Korea** w/c is a very rare case."

sl_user Monday, November 3, 2014

@Minjooo oh! I noticed now that I said "banned". Sorry about that, but my first answer to your words explains my words. I hope you get it.

nathan_gordzz Monday, November 3, 2014

@Minjooo @sl_user Well... you guys are both right. But the thing is there's more Koreans who hates Japan than that of Japanese who hates Korea. Putting it in simple way, both Korea and Japan looks down to other Asian nation (meaning to say, they look down to each other as well). Japanese people thinks they're still ahead of other Asian nations and keeps quiet in their homecountry doing anything they want even if it hurts their neighbors (e.g visiting Yakusuni hurting Chinese and Koreans) while Koreans tend to think that they are awesome being colonized by Japan but look at them catching up. People are also quite racist w/c also includes making fun of Japanese people. There are many Koreans studying in my home country and I know alot of them, alot of memes and other stuffs making fun of Japan and North Korea exist online. lol

midnighteer Monday, November 3, 2014

@Minjooo 79% of Koreans are stated to hate Japan's guts. ^^;; Not sure if my math is just THAT bad, but it seems like that's a huge majority...?

Minjooo Tuesday, November 4, 2014

@sl_user Yes it clearly stated 'banned' and the other person before me already mentioned it before. So I was not sure why you keep changing your words. So yeahh

Minjooo Tuesday, November 4, 2014

@sl_user @sl_user You mentioned that Koreans can get into Japanese market any time while Japanese in Korea can get into Korean market by telling they love Korean culture. L O L . Have you ever ever ever ever ever seen Korean/Japanese TV actually? Most Koreans in Japanese market are ONLY K-POP singers. They are mostly on HanRyu TVs. Do you even know that FUJI TV and TBS stopped Korean dramas on air? Have you ever heard Japanese congressman, Asao Keiichiro (淺尾慶一郎), told K-POP should be banned in Japan? But those Japanese in Korea are not only J-POP singers but idol groups, actors, models, etc. Their job is not saying they love Korea but they perform onTV shows, but they movies, K-POP shows, fashion shows, Korean SNL, etc.

Minjooo Tuesday, November 4, 2014

@sl_user [ I will copy and past this again because you seem like missing it. You said Japanese get no chance and there are many japanese who's actively shown in Korean TV programs and Japanese actors in Korea. Namekawa Yasuo(Gangnam), Terada Takuya, Fujii Mina, Ryohei, Feki Yuko(Yumin), Fujita Sayuri, Takeda Hiromitsu... Need I say more? ] Well, in Korea, we have japanese actors/models/singers/idol groups/girl groups. But in Japan, there are no Koreans who are actually living in Japan and seen on TV shows/movies. Also, K-POP singers are mostly in Japanese Hanryu TV networks. While Japanese celebrities in Korea are seen on MBC/KBS/SBS/JTBC. (The most-watched 4 tv networks in korea) So, now, can you explain how come they are only K-pop singers in Japan but many Japanese celebrities(actors, models, singers, etc.) are in Korean TV networks?

Minjooo Tuesday, November 4, 2014

@nathan_gordzz I agree at your point. The reason why koreans are mad at Abnormal Summit's Kimikayo event is because there are still many Koreans who's still alive and tell they were forced to sing it while colonization period. Koreans were tortured if refused singing it. And there are still Korean women who were forced to be Japanese sex slaves, Yakusuni / Kimikayo still hurt many Koreans. Maybe in the future, more Koreans will not mind about it while some Koreans think it should not be forgotten. But I can tell there arn't many Koreans who hate Japaneses but Japanese congress who has been speaking very hurtful words to Koreans. At this moment, there are a lot of Japanese celebrities in Korea and young generations think positively towards Japan. So I believe this situation will get better as time goes by.

sl_user Tuesday, November 4, 2014

@Minjooo "But in Japan, there are no Koreans who are actually living in Japan and seen on TV shows/movies" --this is the most idiotic statement EVER!, Koreans living in japan (aka Zainichi Koreans) are actually the SECOND LARGEST ETHNIC in Japan. Koreans also have the largest number of overstayer in Japan alongside with Chinese. Do you even know anything about both countries? 'Coz it seems like you're just saying what you see on TV. Other popular and successful Koreans living in Japan is Choo Sunghoon, Choo Sarang's father, a successful fighter. Masayoshi Son, a pure Korean and CEO of Softbank (aka, the richest guy in Japan). Shin Kyuk-ho, the founder of LOTTE, he started his business in Japan and became successful there while Korea was still a poor country, and alot more. You know what? Just shut your mouth up if you only see things on TV. It's not just k-pop entering japan's market but also 70% of big named Korean actors and actresses like Kim Taehee, Jang Gunseuk, Lee Seunggi, and alot more (it's not even worth mentioning as allkpop always updates its). Just face the fact that there are more Koreans who hates Japanese than Japanese who hates Koreans.

nathan_gordzz Tuesday, November 4, 2014

@Minjooo actually, both of their governments are throwing bad words to each other, but it can't be generalize. Just some of officials may say some words. We all know that in every group, there's one person who's f*cking the heck out. Overall, both Japan and Korea are allies, it's just that people doesn't find the "peace" yet.

sl_user Tuesday, November 4, 2014

@Minjooo PS, you cannot say that Japan is being unfair towards Koreans for TBS banning k-dramas, these things happens in Japan often, not just towards Koreans but even towards Japanese artist themselves. Like in Fuji TV, all JE artists (a japanese agency) are banned. This things happen alot.

IU4eva Thursday, October 30, 2014

Personally, I do think that it was slightly imprudent for the directors to have aired this music since, after all, this was a Korean broadcast intended towards the Korean audience. I think it's more of the fact that the netizens are disappointed with the show since it was led by a Korean staff and they should have known that it might have been uncomfortable to the audience (especially the older generation), and they should have been aware of the historical connotation of it. ;Well I sincerely hope that this show stays on though. ;

gholly4 Thursday, October 30, 2014

They got an apology for a mistake that was made by of their editors. Some netizens be doin' the most I swear

gholly4 Friday, October 31, 2014

Seriously what do people want, for them to cancel the show? It was a mistake obviously.

sl_user Monday, November 3, 2014

@gholly4 They want another apology for Japan. All the blame goes to Japan again who knows nothing about this show. Japan will again apologize and the apology wouldn't reach Chinese and Korean people again thanks to government. It's a repeated things allover -_-

gholly4 Wednesday, November 5, 2014

@sl_user Oh wow, I hate conflict like this, it's never easy to solve

gholly4 Thursday, October 30, 2014

These people need to chill out lol

kks2 Thursday, October 30, 2014

So many Korean haters on here lol, curious as to why they visit this website? What makes kpop stars different to normal Koreans...

alexdhamp Thursday, October 30, 2014

Haters?

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