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SS501 Fans have doubts over Inkigayo Result [updated]

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lawlietta in General | 01 Nov 2009 - 02:56 PM

 
SHINee and SS501

I'm sure many of you SHINee fans were ecstatic with last evening's win on Inkigayo - after all, grabbing a Mutizen is just another testament that the SHINee boys are back and better than ever! However, fans of another comeback quintet don't seem to be so happy: with SHINee's victory, SS501 came in second and was left in the dust with no awards for Love Like This this week.

SS501 fans have expressed doubts about last night's calculations due to the close figures. Instead of expressing heated outrage, many are now asking the SBS production team for a breakdown of the scores that determined SHINee as this week's chart winner, and have even started a protest thread on the forums on Inkigayo's official website.

First of all, there is a dispute over the album sale counts between both groups. On Music Bank on Friday, the normal and limited edition sales of the REBIRTH album collaboratively outnumbered SHINee's album sales, leading to SS501's win. The accumulated sales of REBIRTH outnumbered Year of Us sales by over 2000. However, SHINee fans argue that, if one were to compare the REBIRTH normal edition only sales against Year of Us, SHINee would beat SS501, as indicated by the Hanteo monthly chart for October.

SHINee and SS501

Furthermore, both Music Bank and Inkigayo put greater weight on digital sales than album sales - on Music Bank, digital sales account for 60% (as opposed to album sales which are 15%). On Inkigayo, digital sales make up 30% and album sales 20% for the overall scoring system. SHINee has outranked SS501 on various digital sales charts, including Melon, Mnet. Bugs, Dosirak, soribada and more.

However, even if SHINee has outranked SS501 in these categories, the margin between the Inkigayo scores was only a few hundred points; even if the scoring systems were done appropriately, SS501 fans are asking for another look just in case.

So what do you think, are SS501 fans overreacting or should such a close margin be reexamined anyway? Either way, there's always next week; SS501 returned after SHINee, which may explain why SHINee has risen to claim their awards first. Good luck to both groups next Sunday! Stay tuned to allkpop for more details and make sure to visit SHINee's SFI forums and SS501's Quainte forums.

Thanks to Michelle Q Musik for the clarifications.



  
 

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chukachukachoo's avatar

ooh first!
but aren’t music shows like a week late in giving out awards. so ss501 might win next week. haven’t heard “love like this” but ring ding dong is not a good song.

 
AppleXin's avatar

oooooooo
waa never been second in my life O_O” haha ~
umm…i dont think fans are overreacting, i mean if SS501 is supposed to win then they should win, and if they did have #1 album sales, then I think it’s a good idea to recalculate ~

 
ashmonstaa's avatar

first?? why is it such a big deal tha SS501 didn’t get #1? Is it that surprising that it was SHINee that got it instead?

 
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Hmmm idk over reacting probabley

 
Meku's avatar

DAMN IT XD okay third…..........
almost made it to second…..........SOMEDAY YO/....SOMEDAY I WILL BE FIRST…....

 
x3Meows's avatar

O.o… doesn’t matter.. right?

 
sherrinarae's avatar

not inki’s fault that ppl didnt vote enough for ss501 LOL.

 
keynna's avatar

oh, shut up,haters

 
Queenie's avatar

i personally think they should do a recount
because i really like ss501 song more then shinee
not trying to say that d ring ringy song is stuck
but i really think that ss501 song is sooo much better so i agree with the fan
RECOUNT!!

 
Bob DaBuilda?!'s avatar

I don’t even know how the scores are calculated.
Maybe SS501 fans should just be happy that they were actually in the running and are getting more spotlight.

 
v i 3 t x p 4 n d 4's avatar

They’re overreacting.

 
Jay_Bunny's avatar

Well I liked Love like this better but it just debuted , RDD has been out longer. I dont see the big deal though.

 
Meku's avatar

shinee totally deserved the award in my opinion…..........its not that big of a deal though
there will be plenty of other awards for ss501 to win…...

 
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i think a reexamination is reasonable…
n i definitely agree wif first commenter….

 
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WHAT THE…..
i really really really loveeeeeeeeeeee both groups!
BUT…i think the fans are overreacting.
both SHINee and SS501 put on good performances and that’s all that matters.
they’re both winners. they don’t need a trophy proving that they’ve won because they’re still successful anyways.

 
°° haelimm's avatar

It is going a bit far, but I know if it were a group I was crazy over I’d be right there with them asking for a re-examination. And LOL @6… you srsly cracked me up.

 
kickityeahh's avatar

that’s why shinee was so surprised when they win the award..lol…the award is not important btw

 
Jay_Bunny's avatar

ROFL @ #6 “someday haha =D

 
ChoCoLaTePiE's avatar

Agree’d with #4. Iunno if its just me, but i think Triple S’s are making too much of a big deal that SS501 didnt get first. Theres always next week for them to win an award, not like there ending there promotions or something.Anyways, Good Luck to both groups.

 
i love dbsk's avatar

wow. overreacting. much?

 
lzl470's avatar

butthurt fangirls.


ss501’s album sales > shinee’s album sales (since ss501 released a normal edition and limited edition of their album)


BUT


shinee’s digital sales > ss501’s digital sales and shinee’s pretty much been pwning them on online charts.


digital sales count for more on these music shows, plus shinee came back a week earlier, therefore they won.


and like everyone else said, inki is late so likely ss501 will win next week anyway. jeez.

 
PurplexLine's avatar

you win some you lose some get over it!

 
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Definitely overreacting. Just shush and read this post people.


Credit: _idyllic @ soompi for info below–


Fact 1. SHINee’s Year of Us album has been outselling SS501’s Normal Edition. Bur For Music Bank, they counted combined sales of both Normal and Special Edition of SS501’s album that is why SS501 scored higher on the album portion. There is no wrong in how they count, i guess its up to the organisers. This is the Hanteo chart for sales for the month of October.

http://i34.tinypic.com/6p5e6u.png


Fact 2. Music Bank and Inkigayo both count a higher % to Digital Sales.

Music Bank’s scoring system:
K-Chart: digital music (60%) + album sales (15%) + Broadcast times (15%) + viewers rating (10%)

Inkigayo’s scoring system:
Research 20% + Album 20% + Digital Sales 30% + Broadcast freq 20% + Voting 10%


Fact 3. SHINee has been constantly outranking them in digital sales as seen from digital sales charts such as Melon, Dosirak etc. This is why on Music Bank chart, SHINee scored 4252 while SS501’s 2978.


Fact 4. Date of Comebacks relating to Broadcast Frequency scores. SHINee came back earlier and this is why we have scores in broadcast frequency SS501 just came back, they are likely to have no score or a very low score in that aspect for both Inki AND Music Bank. On music bank they have 0 in this section.


Credit: lala_land @ soompi for info below–


This is the weekly ranking that was taken into account for Kchart this friday. (30/10)


Period: 19/10-25/10

[Chart] SS501 / SHINee
Melon 34 / 3
Mnet 1 / 3
Muz 35 / 4
Bugs 36 / 4
Dosirak 7 / 1
soribada 20 / 4
Average 22.2 / 3.2


Kchart Digital Ranking: SS501 2978 SHINee 4252


Albums sold within this same period:

SS501 11,814 + 16,096 = 27910 and SHINee 21,983


Kchart Album Sold Ranking: SS501 9341 and SHINee 6979


We won fairly and if they have any doubts, they should look up the chart rankings in that week.

 
cindyuknow's avatar

overreaction,
theres still next week to come
& i think shinee deserved it
not to be biased or anything

 
gahaha's avatar

i smell fan war in the brewing. yikes!

 
michiko10_20's avatar

what the hell! overreacting much??!!

its ss501 fans fault for not voting!

GAWD! what the EFF!

SHINEE saranghae!

 
elledee_'s avatar

Just let SHINee have it ..
SS501 will get some too.

 
~xXHwaitingXx~'s avatar

I like both songs a lot!! so idk :S…but still a win is a win???

 
noura's avatar

GO SHINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 
Kim Kimberly's avatar

what why
SHINee won fair and square
GO SHINee
but if they really want 2
then
i’ll cheer both on
GO SS501!
GO SHINee!

 
Ts_Heidi's avatar

Uh oh. If SS501 fans start causing a ruckus, it could hurt SHINee’s chances for next time T^T I love “love like this” with my entire soul, but…I don’t know…should the scores be recounted? I’m worried.

 
imaginagic's avatar

I think they’re overreacting… They’re embarrassing themselves and should know when to accept a loss… Don’t be sore losers, really.
SHINee won fair and square.
And I love “Love Like This” don’t get me wrong.

 
toto101's avatar

o Gosh crazy fan girls here we go -_-

 
Ahra Liu's avatar

-_-

That’s all I have to say.

 
Dookie's avatar

I like them both!
But I like SHINee better….

I think they’re overacting… They should just leave it how it is.
I mean, if I was a member of SS501 I would feel embarrassed if my fans wanted to snatch the award for me because of the calculation.
Just leave it how it is.

And if I was a member in SHINee I would feel guilty and confuse. 0.o
But I agree, Korean Fans are scary. raspberry

@ #6. Ahaha. xP

 
ffb09's avatar

STOP THE WAR people!

i’m 100% sure that if SS501 won this week..
SHINee fans would be like this too.
don’t deny.

fans are fans.
not all members of fanclubs are saints that doesn’t bash other idol groups.
some are just plain old haters.

both groups are HOTT as hell anyways. so no competition.

 
YANiPOPO's avatar

Triple S probably is hurting the fact that a junior is beating them and of course, fangirls have their pride.

 
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for Reference to this week’s Music Bank scoring:
http://i37.tinypic.com/28tgeas.jpg
Cr: _idyllic @ soompi


@ 38. ffb09—The POINT is that SHINee won fair and square. Fans are fans but what’s true is true.

 
★corraaaaa's avatar

tsk. you wouldn’t think ss501 is a veteran group making a comeback based on the way their fans are acting.

 
minminmin's avatar

why can’t they just accept it? @_@
i’m sure SS501 will win next week or so.

 
Kashie's avatar

Fans are crazy.
They’re just angry that SHINee beat there seniors. It’s happened like this before too.
SS501 fans seem like they’re helping but honestly they’re just making themselves look pretty bad.

 
joongielove's avatar

@25: wow. research much? smile)

 
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You are against the SM Entertainment ?! Against their demonization of the idols ? We saw it with the TVXQ. Join us!

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=168414124913&ref=mf

This group was made to denounce the injustices of this vile company, we can see their wickedness with DBSK/TVXQ.

Thanks !

 
MAYS's avatar

I luv shinee

 
ariek's avatar

Wow, what a waste of time…
Noone effin cares who wins.

 
exquisitebabyx3's avatar

i think this is so unfair to the shinee fans; making it seems as if SHINee doesnt deserve this award. i think its rightful SHINee wins it, because we all know inki is always a week late with their results. plus before today, SHINee has been #1 on hanteos album chart for weeks in october too. SS501 will prob win it another week; so i dont think its right when fans complain that another group is winning, because everyone will get their time and they shouldnt make SHINee’s win less than it deserves to be. you’re just making yourselves look like sore losers. just accept it gracefully and wait for you groups turn to win.

 
lalalaSE7EN's avatar

Dont blame SS501. They’re not the one complaining. I honestly loved SS501’s Love Like This, but they’ll be other awards. Making a big deal out of it gets you nowhere except being callled snobs. Damn it SS501 fans, should’ve voted. HAHA.

 
JaeJoongFanGirl's avatar

I like both groups, but those fans need to relax. It’s not that big of a deal if SS501 didn’t win cause they can always win next week or some other week. Fans should just give their support to their groups instead of arguing over small things such as this.


Too much arguing and hating in the K-pop world lately.
Keep the peace people <3

 


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