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Idol Groups Disrespect Moon Hee Jun

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ChubbieBunnie in Rumors | 20 Nov 2008 - 09:28 AM

 
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It seems like the drama of this year's MKMF absolutely refuses to disappear. Netizens are buzzing about the various idol groups' reactions when Moon Hee Jun received the MKMF 10th anniversary commemorative award on behalf of the ancestor of boy bands, H.O.T.

Fancams of Moon Hee Jun's acceptance of the award surfaced on the internet recently. The video showed that none of the idol groups stood up other than the elder statesman of the new generation of artists, DBSK. The rest of the idol groups just clapped nonchalantly in their seats. Netizens are angry at the disrespect shown to Moon Hee Jun, because it is an established fact that without H.O.T., these idol groups wouldn't be anywhere near where they are today.

Netizens are split into two camps on this issue, some are saying that idol singers have grown increasingly impolite, that in any other fields people would not dare to be so disrespectful to a sunbae (senior) of 13 years. While others seem to think that the reactions are a bit too intense, and that the idol groups certainly respect their sunbaes, that they just don't show it properly.

What a shame! I feel that this is quite inexcusable, I mean even in Hollywood, when someone like Harrison Ford goes up to the stage, the whole audience stand up. If they can show that much respect in the U.S., they certainly should in Korea. It's not the first time that someone suggested that proper etiquette is disappearing in the KPOP world, does this prove that they're right?

Check out Moon Hee Jun's acceptance speech: (video credit: dreySJ13)


Moon Hee Jun KPOP Korean Music

Moon Hee Jun KPOP Korean Music

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musicislove's avatar

well. bowing and being respectful is a really big deal in korea.
i’m kinda surprised that artists didn’t stand up for H.O.T (good for DBSK for standing up!)
they were really big and popular when the were active. but i guess times have really changed.
i don’t know. i would like to see the footage too.. (hehe. most of the fancams i saw of other performances were really dark…so maybe it was just a misunderstanding? i hope so!)

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 03:09 PM

52. chubbs (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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Someone mentioned this already but I’ll say it again: if it was SNSD not standing up everyone here would be bashing them. But since it’s not ppl are all like “it’s not a big deal.”
Uh. It doesn’t matter if H.O.T disbanded, Moon Hee Jun is a SENIOR of the music industry and it doesn’t take much to just STAND UP and show respect. The fact that only DBSK stood up shows that they are polite but it also shows that the other groups ARE NOT. Fangirls/fanboys need to stop being delusional and face facts that the other idol groups failed to show a simple gesture of RESPECT.

 
HPDANM's avatar

like what everyone else already said, DBSK has always been respectful and polite…possibly the most polite and the most humble out of all the stars out there…they bow and greet anyone, may you be just a normal staff….they don’t have the “We’re on top” attitude…They even bowed to WG…is that someone 3 years senior would do to a junior? Of course not….one factor is that they admire HOT….Junsu and Jae the most as they claim to be die hard HOT fans….
Those people who didn’t stood up probably don’t know how much HOT impacted Korean entertainment industry, let alone idol groups. There won’t be Hallyu Wave without them and there won’t be the current popularity idol groups enjoyed today without them…it’s just ignorance…
and to someone who stated, yes, they do value seniority a lot…

 
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woot_woot….the award is being awarded to HOT not Moon Hee Jun…why don’t they stand? When they stood when they awarded SG Wannabe and Kim Dong Wan for OST award, it’s really just a simple fact that they don’t understand HOT’s value on top of them…

 
angel_102's avatar

H.O.T forever!!!
Man, those idol groups who didnt’ stand up are just plain rude!
if they weren’t fans of H.O.T back then! how sad!!!!! so dissapointed in them! oh well,,
Go H.O.T!!! you know you were the best group out there!

 
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i dont like how they edited “all these things that I’ve done”...

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 03:30 PM

57. MAY-BE (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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DBSK respects and idolizes H.O.T. a lot. Not just they are DBSK’s elders but DBSK were fans of H.O.T.
Especially for Junsu & Jaejoong… they LOVE H.O.T.
During their ‘Hug’ days or whatever, Junsu & Jaejoong said that they were really big fans of H.O.T. They got into fights cause they were standing up for H.O.T. And I’m not quite surprised that they stood up and clapped.
As for the other idol groups, maybe they weren’t fans of H.O.T. but to SechKies, G.O.D., Seo Taji and etc., but it’s nice to stand up and bow to someone who has been through this industry for over a decade.
And as for what some other people said about the SNSD fact. I agree, when SNSD disrespected Shinhwa or whoever, I’m not sure, everybody was just bashing SNSD for being rude. Now everyone can bash on the other artists for not “respecting” Moon Hee Jun’s acceptance award.

Idk what else to say. I think netizens really have a heck a lot of time on their hands and just to analyze that.

 
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Over polite? How can you be over polite? It’s part of the Korean culture that you have to respect your elders. Even if you don’t know them, respect them. Bow when saying hi and etc. If you don’t respect your elders, then others will see it as your mom didn’t raise you well enough and gossips start and people talking about that person like his/her mom didn’t raise him/her well, etc etc. It’s also about how you look. There’s a lot of factor.

DBSK was taught well to respect people older than them. But in the entertainment world, anything goes, anything happens, following “order,” and more factors can go into why they didn’t stand up. Anyways, always respect people older than you.

 
travp16's avatar

There is no need to get upset over this. Geez…isn’t there better “news”?

 
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I guess I kind of understand how the whole award presentation thing was a bit awkward because it wasn’t like there were other “contenders” for the award.

However, I don’t think some of the people here who say “chillax” realize exactly how huge HOT was back in the day.

They are THE boyband of Korea.

Period.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 03:45 PM

61. SMILE XD (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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HOT is like EPIC! without them most bands wouldnt even make it, at least DBSK had good sense to stand up. and with what i’ve seen lately, seems like there are alot of disrespect to the sunbaenims.

 
KC's avatar

I watched it live and was wonder why they only showed DBSK standing.
DBSK and Shinee are ways respectful. They showed DBSK a lot during to show ^^
They other groups could have stood for him out of respect.

 
angelxtasy's avatar

hooray for both =)
i loved the h.o.t days and i’m glad dbsg
stood up in appreciation. Becasue someone had to
pave the road first right?? dn’t forget shinhwa too.
these two first bands of sm was legend in there days.
much luv and support.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 03:52 PM

64. orenji (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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It’s kinda disrespectful for the new idol to not stand up to Moon Hee Jun.
Some people give an excuses that they don’t know H.OT or not idolized him, well before this awards given to him he was there standing and perform with all the new male groups. Even if you are ignorant at least you know that he was SOMEONE to give that kind of stage.

I know I only watch DBSK fancam, but they looks like they enjoy other artist performance. They clap, they shout and sing with the audience. Doesn’t look like a celebrity at all, just another audience with a better seat. Even Yunho gives a thumbs up when 2pm get back to their seated for their performance. Talk about respect and humility!!

 
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its hard for young ppl to understand how big of a deal this award probably is to moon hee jun and the rest of the HOT…they aren’t a group any more and he has to do this on his own, as an older artist amongst teenagers, who have a larger fanbase than he did back then, he must fear that he’s replaced…this is a recognition for his life basically, and those other kids can’t even be bothered to stand up? i dont care if you are a fan of HOT, you stand up for respect, for the progress he made before you. i dont really know what im saying but reading the ppl who said its not a big deal just makes me angry
btw i cant locate that fancam, theres precious little to be found on youtube about moon hee jun.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 04:21 PM

66. .... (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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you guys are so retarded. if you’ve watched MKMF live or seen all the other artists get awards then you would see that ALL of the artists get up and clap for whoever it is. their is no fancam of the other artists not getting up which is no proof. cassies stop making DBSK all respectful and putting other artists down when you havent even see this so called fancam.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 04:42 PM

67. jaejinramyun (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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@KuKKIEZ: SHINee was on stage with him and who doesn’t know H.0.T?
I mean come on, just because they debuted before TaeMin was born doesn’t mean you don’t who the artists are. That’s just stupid. I mean look at the beatles, they debuted before a lot of people’s births but we still know who they are.

 
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I don’t find it to be such a big deal.  I doubt that they are paying attention at these awards anyways…and most people stand up…when people around them stand up.  If no one stood up then no one stands up…it’s like a ripple effect.  The awards are given out like candy…no one cares about the little ones except for the Best artist or best song etc…

Even though I personally wasn’t part of the HOT craze…I don’t see why they are giving out an award now…there are many other groups out there that were popular too.  Plus it’s not all members of HOT…only Moon Hee Jun, who never even achieved popularity outside of HOT.

 
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I only found one video (well two but they were cheering for shinee) were dbsk was standing and the rest were sitting down… Im not sure if this is the video for this topic though…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhy-qZbSrmQ
@0:47

 
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I agree with ... here since we haven;t seen the cams and from the oens i’ve seen the artists stand up for everyone no matter who, so it seems weird they wouldn;t stand up for one person. Plus the only reason DBSK standing up is seen more is prolly cuz all the cassie’s cameras were aimed at them the whole time.

 
milangurl89's avatar

LOL
and people said all the time that SNSD are disrespectful.
gah.
i wanna puke.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 04:58 PM

72. LALALA (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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That’s why i love TVXQ, they respect others and still humble..

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 05:38 PM

73. bubbles (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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ewww! i wouldn’t stand for his pasty ass face…
I never liked H.O.T , that candy song was freaking
annoying… if it was Kangta i would thrown a chair
at his face… H.O.T was the worst idol group
in all korean pop groups history…yes worst than U-kiss…
okay not quite, U-kiss’ suckiness is unrivaled.
DSBK were nervous, cuz they weren’t sure if they were about
to win anything… couldn’t sit with all the nervousness

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 05:42 PM

74. bubbles (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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i couldn’t give a damn about what snsd did, said, wore, sucked…
but if what i read is true, they are a bunch of disrespectful
girls…so don’t try to excuse them… also this time netizens are
pushing it, cuz they also bashed him when he became a rock artist…so they need to get over it.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 05:44 PM

75. secret (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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To those who are condemning all the idol groups besides DBSK, the video only shows the Wondergirls, Joo, Da Vici, 2PM, 2AM, U-Kiss, and Brown Eyed Girls.

 
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there might be a bit more disrespect but for sure everyone respects H.O.T so i agree with “While others seem to think that the reactions are a bit too intense, and that the idol groups certainly respect their sunbaes, that they just don’t show it properly.”

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 06:03 PM

77. chubbs (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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For people asking about the fancam, you realize that there were audience members present at the event who probably witnessed this, right? That’s why they are talkinig about it, because they actually saw it happen.
Lesson of the day:  if you’re not SNSD, then it’s okay to disrespct others because people will just think that it’s no big deal.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 06:06 PM

78. zoom (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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eumakai: they’re giving out this award because it’s mkmf’s 10th anniversary. and while it may be true that other artists were popular, H.O.T takes the cake. they were THE artists during that time. and no, the award was for H.O.T as a whole, not just moon hee jun. he was just there to accept it because almost everyone else I believe was serving military time.

it doesn’t matter if they can’t show it properly. the fact that they don’t show it at all is disappointing.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 06:09 PM

79. zoom (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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and i agree with chubbs, if the article pinpointed other artists, some would be ranting and complaining about it to no end right now. heck, if it was even dbsg, people would go off criticizing them. they always do.

eh. what can you do.

 
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THEY SHUD HAVE STOOD UP….
H.O.T IS D GROUP DAT STARTED D WHOLE HALLYU THINGY….*bringing korean wave to other country*
EVRYONE NOE DBSK IS A FANBOY OF H.O.T and THEY AR UNDER THE SAME LABEL… BEING AS SUNBAE AS H.O.T, NOT STANDING UP FOR THEM IS BIT DISRESPECTFUL…

but i think, others respect him and H.O.T only dat they mite have not properly show it…..

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 06:11 PM

81. plant#1 (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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I do agree on the “not showing respect thing”. Yea they are disrespectful, but what can you say, to me nowadays “idols” seem too loose, like the tattoos, insulting other artists, sheesh maybe naked pics someday. Yea they are human, but so what? They act like crap they shouldn’t be even call idols. They should at least show some respect. They act like the typical image of what we usually think of a star, arrogant and b*tchy.

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 06:20 PM

82. HEROine (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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DBSK respects everyone..if they are respectful to their dongsaengs, how much more to their sunbaenims ?

Even from other companies..

 
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MANY PPL ON THE FIRST PAGE SAYING….PEOPLE MIGHT NOT H.O.T HENCE WHY THEY DIDNT STAND UP DURING THE AWARD??

MY QUESTION IS ONE:
1)IF I AM FROM MALAYSIA *not a fan of H.O.T and dont even noe how many members are there in H.O.T* HOW IN THE WORLD I NOE H.O.T IS D BIG FACTOR OF HALLYU?? AND THOSE PPL ARE FROM KOREA??? AND THEY DONT NOE IT??? uhuuhuuhuuu…

ANIWAY…WE NEED PRUF DAT SAY DBSK STOOD UP, AND NON-OTHERS DURING MOON HEEJUN SPEECH….
even thou i am a cassie *which i shud be extreamly proud wif DBSK now* BUT FACT WILL ALWAYZ BE FACT….WITHOUT PRUF, DIZ IS NOTHING…...

 
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@ ICE
no,not H.O.T started the hallyu
i think its more Shinhwa and Rain started it

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 06:34 PM

85. secret (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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Nope, H.O.T. did start it. You were just too young to know back then.

 
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why is everyone going crazy over this topic. Moon hee jun cant even make a hit with his songs without the teamwork of HOT. He’s nothing without HOT. Plus i really think the whole rock and roll thing for the new rookie of the year ,was so a way for MOON HEE JUN to gain attention. If the entire H.O.T , went up fine i would bash at those idol groups for not standing up.

 
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^
^ Because Moon Hee Jun recieved the award in the name of H.O.T., not himself.

@nerner, Shinwha wouldn’t be popular in China if H.O.T. didn’t start the hallyu wave there.  Did shinwha get the similar popularity in some other countries that H.O.T. didn’t get? No.  Rain, on the other hand, expanded the Hallyu wave to many more countries with the combination of drama and music performance.

 
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@nerner…HOT started Hallyu wave….it was conned by medias themselves to HOT…and that’s how Hallyu wave started….It all comes down to HOT why we have the Korean entertainment that we have right now and those hoobaes dare to disrespect them?
and how come some people don’t understand that the award is for HOT…not MHJ…???
@xstrikr…it’s not like ChunnieBunnie is just making it up…it’s netizens themselves who started it…”...seen the artist stand up for anyone no matter who?” Really? I can name artist who didn’t stood up for other artist…it was really just DBSK who stood up for MHJ, why else would they only show DBSK when they can show all of the artist present?

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 07:42 PM

89. u r ignorant (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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Whoever’s dissing Moon Hee Jun or H.O.T are seriously ignorant.
Don’t bash/diss or say anything negative if you know nothing about them.
Gosh.

 
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dbsk is def one of the most polite “idol” groups around.  and i was all smiles when junsu and yunho was singing to his song when he performed.

 
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xstrikr : it was said in Hanteo board by Koreans , Chunnie didn’t make up the story . Use Google translation if you don’t understand
http://www.hanteo.com/information/artist.asp?chk=freeboard&scode=12157

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 07:53 PM

92. this_season (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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To Woot_woot
I bet you are also ugly and fat.
And Moon Hui Jun stand there in the name of HOT
not for himself.
I think the respect from hoobae to sunbae is going dissapeard right now
K-pop must be warning about this

 
quiltedquickerpickerupper's avatar

The Netizens are such hypocrites!

Now they defend this washed-up has been when just a few years back they were all trying to condemn him for what his fans said.

They even wished him to die and shit.

What a bunch of idiots.

 
milangurl89's avatar

i dont like moon hee jun, he looked weird as always.
but he’s part of H.O.T. and its rude for others not to stand up.
i bet other artists stood up later on cuz they were embarrassed when they saw DBSK stood up there. LOL
btw, netizens should STFU. their crappy comments kill artists and put people in war.

 
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I didn’t mean to say she made it up, i was just saying it was somewhat exaggerated. Since there hasn’t been many cams so we don’t noe wat happened. I watch the MKMF awards live and when they actually did pan out to the other groups usually people were standing and clapping. However i will say DBSK is one of the more respectful groups out there. In fact out of everyone there they seemed the happiest and the most cheerful. (during the performances some people looked dazed while DBSK always seemed into it no matter what lol)

 
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20 Nov 2008 - 08:52 PM

96. Afterglow (Unregistered User - Sign Up!)

 
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LOL funny isn’t it, people questioning why DBSK stood up like it’s an odd thing when they’re just simply showing some respect to their seniors. don’t criticize others when your idol groupies show you their true colours =(

 
pain4bitches's avatar

koreans insists on simple things like this as a sign of R.E.S.P.E.C.T. and yet they don’t care when it’s about religion?

 
night's avatar

H.O.T WAS A PHENMONON - they paved the way for kpop!

They are legends whether you like them or not.
H.O.T had a MASSIVE (repeat) MASSIVE! influence to the kpop industry.

DBSK’s respect to H.O.T just proves that there are some people who have manners, and there’s others who don’t.

 
JaeFever's avatar

good job DBSK! tsk tsk tsk on the other groups….

 
YBDong's avatar

netizens have nothing better to do but start idol group wars. i agree with utmost confidence that dbsk is a group who respects senior artists with sincere pride, but as for shinee, i don’t think people grasp that they were the one’s handing out the award, so naturally they’d bow to someone who’s right next to them.
also, there’s no official fancam which shows that the other idol groups didn’t show their respect. i don’t care if you say that people attending the award show saw it, hence that’s how the claims were brought up, if there’s no official evidence other than just netizens posting crap up on the internet, then sorry chubbiebunnie, you wrote this article based on trash ...
as #43 said, these so called netizen’s are complete HYPOCRITES!

 


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